Dear David, I think you mean Luke 22:37. My RSV notes that Jesus' quote from scripture refers to Isaiah 53:12, but I note that its not an exact quote (at least in the RSV). Nor is it an exact quote in the KJV. In the New English it moves further away. (NEB Luke 22:37 'For Scripture says, "And he was counted among the outlaws", and these words, I tell you must find fulfilment in me;...Isaiah 53:12 'Therefore I will alot him a portion with the great, and he shall share the spoil with the mighty, because he exposed himself to the face of death and was reckoned among the transgressors, because he bore the sin of many and interceeded for their transgressions.') Interestingly look at Isaiah 53:10. As the NEB has it, 'Yet the Lord took thought for His tortured servant and healed him who made himself a sacrifice for sin; so shall he enjoy long life and see his children's children, and in his hand the Lord's cause shall prosper.' Jesus didn't have children. Could you tell me what the other passages are? The question is though if Luke 22:37 doesn't refer to Isaiah 53, what verse does it refer to? I can't find it. Regards, Geoff Smith. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Sears and Isaiah 53
> In William Sears' 'Thief in the Night' it is claimed that the prophecies in > Isaiah 53 are not of Christ, but Baha'u'llah. Sears sets about showing why > this is the case. To me, this would have to be the low point of the book. > Why? Because there are several passages in the Bible which say that Isaiah > 53 referred to Jesus. Not only do Apostles say so, but Jesus Himself says > so in Luke 21:37. Hence, Sears would appear to be attacking the Bible, in a > book written for Christians. What strikes me as interesting is that Sears > shows no knowledge of the biblical references to Isaiah 53. It would seem > to me that he didn't know of such references, or at least forgot them, as > surely he would feel it necessary to explain himself if he knew the Bible > said that Isaiah 53 referred to Jesus, and show why that shouldn't be > problematic to the idea that the chapter doesn't actually refer to Jesus, > and is inapplicable to Him. A Christian could read the section on Isaiah 53 > in Thief in the Night and say, "So you think Jesus was wrong (in Luke > 21:37)?" Christians are going to take Isaiah 53 as referring to Jesus based > on the testimony of the Bible. Sears implicitly rejected the testimony of > the Bible without explanation, and frankly that's not the way to go if you > want to convince Christians. He would have been better off simply omitting > reference to Isaiah 53, and not making an attempt to prove the claims of the > Faith through that chapter. > > David > > _________________________________________________________________ > Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! > > > ---------- > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st > news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st > http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) > ---------- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
