Well, the odor described by our surface renter is not a 'slight
smell', he did call it 'stringent' (I do know that mercaptan is added
for consumer detection - I only meant the analogy to pilot-out
referring to a 'flare-out') but there IS an odor, not only from flare-
out situations, but also when it is actually flaring and the wind is
from that direction ..  this particular surface renter gets flare/and
flare-out odors from his West, NW, and the SE ... he said it takes
about only 10-15 minutes  before he knows that a flare has gone out,
and judging by the direction, he knows which company to call....


On Oct 14, 8:16 am, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rufus---
> """(like a pilot light when it goes out) that
> the very stringent odor """"
>
> Natural gas coming out of a well has no odor except for maybe a slight
> sulfur smell.
>
> It is not until mercaptans are added do you get the rotten egg smell.
>
> On Oct 14, 2:42 am, elwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > fus, i have never advocated venting.  venting is just as wasteful as
> > flaring.  put me in the gas sales or re-injection camp, not the
> > venting or flaring camp.
>
> > On Oct 13, 9:07 pm, "Rufus O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Soooooooooooooooo, Elwood (and Tom),
> > > There may really BE a good reason that bakken gas must be Flared until
> > > other options are available, huh?
> > > Not only would it settle, but it causes physical ailments in people as
> > > well as animals and livestock.
> > > Even by flaring, I am told that cattle will not touch the grass within
> > > a fairly wide radius of that ground stack...
> > > But, venting the straight H-c gases is a much, much more dangerous
> > > option. Not only for explosivity, but, I am also told, that when
> > > neighboring flares go out (like a pilot light when it goes out) that
> > > the very stringent odor and physical effects such as extreme
> > > difficulty breathing, eyes burning, coughing, and even livestock
> > > getting hurt while trying to get farther away are all common
> > > circumstances.
> > > Methane, while produced in different quantities and densities than the
> > > oilfield, are also produced in very significant quantities from
> > > garbage dumps and waste facilities in major metro areas, and the
> > > potential hazards are so significant that waste fields are now being
> > > required, in many areas,  also to 'flare' off the methane produced
> > > from fermenting garbage....
> > > Rufus
> > > I've been offline for several days, looks like it's been pretty quiet
> > > on the board....
>
> > > On Oct 12, 6:44 pm, elwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > hi tom,
>
> > > > methane , c-h4 is a more potent (can i say potent in here ?) green
> > > > house gas than co2, but the methane is not stable at atmospheric
> > > > conditions, so it doesnt stay around as long.  pure c-h4 is lighter
> > > > (less dense) than air so it would float away in the atmosphere.
> > > > heavier h-c gases will settle along the ground and pose a more serious
> > > > safety problem.  the gas being flared from the bakken is a rich h-c
> > > > gas with a btu content of about 1700 btu/scf so it would tend to
> > > > settle if not burned.
>
> > > > On Oct 12, 11:07 am, "Sweet, But Crude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > Two questions, please:
>
> > > > > 1)  Other than the obvious reason of fire/explosion hazard around a
> > > > > drill site, are there other reasons NG is flared, as opposed to just
> > > > > releasing it into the atmosphere?
>
> > > > > 2)  Whyand what do refineries flare?  Are they flaring NG, or some
> > > > > other non-marketable impurities?  I would think, with the complexity
> > > > > and expense involved in a refinery, capturing and selling NG would be
> > > > > preferable to flaring.
>
> > > > > Thanks, in advance everyone.
>
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