I am old school when it comes to program editors. I keep away from IDEs as much as possible, unless there is not getting away from it. The only thing which a good IDE gives according to me is visual debugging. Everything else can be done by smart customization of swiss-army-knives of editors such as Emacs/Vim. Hell, I even do Java coding in Emacs + command-line ;)
In my 9+ years of working in software, I have tried many editors from the stupid, simple to the complex and it has always been square one back to Emacs. I guess once you get used to the freedom and power Emacs + Lisp gives you, nothing feels comparable, taunts from vim users not withstanding. Still, some editors have impressed me - Kate (KDE Advanced Text Editor) is one which I use occasionally. For Python, I sometimes use SPE (Stani's Python Editor) especially for writing OO code, since it has a nice built-in UML generation tab, which is quite useful for refactoring old code. I wonder why nobody here has mentioned this good editor. It is strictly for Python though. However, I remain loyal to the Church of Emacs, since 1999 ! Regards On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Siddharta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem I have with stand alone editors is that they are okay for > writing code, but absolutely lousy for reading and cleaning code. Most of > the time I'm dealing with multiple files, and when reading code I want to be > able to jump to the implementation of a method, then go back to where I was > and so on. Then you want to rename a method or move code into a separate > module and fix all the references. These kinds of things are major headaches > in a standalone editor and tags/grep etc dont cut it. In any long term > project, 75% of the work is in maintenance, reading and cleaning code. > Unfortunately, most editors are optimised for *writing* code which is the > least of my problems with Python's minimal syntax. I prefer an IDE optimized > for reading, navigating and cleaning code and Wing does a pretty good job > here, not as good as some other language IDEs but the best I've seen for > Python. > > The second thing I like about Wing is that it has an interactive python > shell which executes in context. Which means I can select a piece of code > and run just that snippet in the shell and see the output. Also, I can put a > breakpoint and then execute code in the shell with the execution context at > the time of the breakpoint. Both are really useful, and again not provided > in a stand alone editor. Plus a very nice debugger where you can see the > call stack, breakpoints, watches, single step which are taken for granted in > any language IDE but seem to be missing or poorly implemented in most Python > IDEs. > -- > Siddharta Govindaraj > > > > Pradeep Gowda wrote: > > > > > On 06-May-08, at 12:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > > > > textmate for mac and SPE or eric4 for linux > > > > > > > > > > Lets me also point out that whatever you choose, dont *ever* use Notepad. > > Notepad is the most useless piece of software that ships with windows. > > > > I use Textmate and aquamacs (both on mac of course) and vim occasionally. > > > > For a windows new user, I recomment SciTE (which is also available via > pywin IDE). > > I recommend it to every new student of mine and so far, I've heard no > complaints. Some of them have switched to vim/emacs etc.,. But to start with > SciTe is the easiest. > > Its super-light weight, supports lots of languages, is cross platform. > > An editor like SciTE which "understands" python, makes the "space is > signiicant" mental block a little easy for the newbie. > > Also, SciTE has an easy shortcut "F5" to execute code, the result of which > can be seen in split window. This also makes it attractive for "write-test" > interactive mode. > > > > On the side notes: I wrote an app using Google AppEngine and Python : > http://www.btbytes.com/2008/05/announcing-teh-the-minimalist-blog-tool-using-google-app-engine > > > > +Pradeep > > > > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- -Anand _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
