Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://community.hackit.cx/chat/ for the 11/10/2010.
10:15:31 <> Illya joins Farsides 11:13:02 <> Gary joins Farsides 11:13:11 <Gary> Hello Xavier 11:33:44 <Gary> I'm ready to talk now 11:33:54 <Gary> please tell me when you are ready too 13:46:58 <Gary> Xavier? 14:00:38 <Kalhaan> Hello! 14:00:49 <> da joins Farsides 14:00:52 <Kalhaan> Just starting the day here - it's 10am 14:00:57 <da> hi all 14:11:20 <Gary> Good morning then 14:22:21 <Gary> Xavier? 14:25:12 <Kalhaan> Hello : ) 14:26:39 <Kalhaan> Do you read me? 14:29:05 <Gary> ok xavier, we continue working 14:29:39 <Gary> Ilya will report you today as usual 14:30:17 <Kalhaan> da quit (timeout) 14:30:41 <Gary> from my side I apologize for the delay that was on Thursday. I understand now that you wanted us to update you about this earlier and not the same day as deadline 14:31:26 <Kalhaan> Thanks for the apology 14:31:51 <Kalhaan> But that doesn't solve my issues - the ones I outlined in my last email and in the arbitration 14:32:08 <Gary> I also didn't wand to put all blame on you when I sent you the reasons why this delay occured. That was just few notes that depends on you. But of course there were others 14:32:40 <Kalhaan> Ok, thanks for that too 14:32:42 <> Tartaruga Feliz joins Farsides 14:33:04 <Kalhaan> What did you think about the issues I've outlined in the arbitration and on my last email? 14:34:44 <Gary> Respect deadlines - we really respect them that's why we even worked nights. the only fault we did - we haven't noticed you in time. I apologize for that. but we did all we can 14:35:15 <Kalhaan> So the only issue is that I wasn't notified on time? 14:35:16 <Gary> present in chat - Ilya is always online when he works - 8 hours at least per day 14:36:19 <Gary> Post *detailled* daily reports - it would be great if you send us examples of such reports as not always we use such reports with clients 14:36:45 <Gary> Illya quit (timeout) 14:37:18 <Kalhaan> Well you can see the ones Vlad was sending before leaving for Los Angelese, two weeks ago 14:37:26 <Gary> Commit & push work to the repository on Launchpad every day - we did it not every day. but we can do this - no problem 14:38:04 <Gary> Answer emails on the mailing-list/forum that are addressed to you within 24 hours - I think that we did it for the last week 14:38:11 <Gary> Ok we can use it. 14:38:30 <Gary> what I want to say - that we can finish this project - we are very close 14:39:03 <Kalhaan> But what do you think about this paragraph, from my last email: 14:39:11 <Kalhaan> The reason I've put this project in arbitration, aside from the missed deadline, is that we still haven't found a good way to communicate. Even the simple rules that we agreed on in the last two chat sessions weren't always observed, and in general it's missing proactiveness (making sure everything is alright without me asking for it, often several times) and professionalism (like with the review 14:39:20 <Kalhaan> ...yesterday morning - making sure I would still have a way to review everything even if there was pending issues). 14:40:04 <Gary> well, we prefer to talk online 14:40:37 <Gary> so it would be great if we schedule some short chat/call every day. that would be much efficient. that is how we woks usually 14:41:05 <Gary> so not just report/replies/emails/deadlines/ but online talk 14:42:06 <Gary> sorry Xavier, but I really need to run. I'll be online within 4 hours so may be you will be online. I really want to solve this situation as I think it will be efficient for both of us 14:42:09 <Kalhaan> The thing is that the way we work is through the mailing-list - the chat is a nice support sometimes, but for example when I couldn't reach you in the mroning while I was doing the review, there was nothing I could do 14:42:24 <Kalhaan> If it had been properly prepared on the mailing-list, this wouldn't have happened 14:42:47 <Gary> yes the time reason is not good for us 14:42:52 <Kalhaan> It's the general issue of proactiveness that I was mentionning - I need you to put yourselves in my shoes, not only the other way round 14:43:07 <Kalhaan> What do you mean? 14:43:20 <Kalhaan> ok, just saw you had to run 14:43:23 <Kalhaan> Talk to you later then 14:43:31 <Gary> ok thanks 14:43:48 <Gary> Ilya is online so if you have any questions - you are welcome to ask 14:43:56 <Gary> thatnk you for your time 14:44:05 <Kalhaan> Thanks for your time too! 14:45:28 <Gary> bye 14:46:04 <Tartaruga Feliz> Gary quit (timeout) 14:52:43 <Illya> hello! 14:53:14 <Kalhaan> Hello : ) 14:53:28 <Illya> I have a question about OWA. What's the name of event has to be on the server side? 15:29:17 <Kalhaan> Tartaruga Feliz quit (timeout) 15:36:35 <Illya> Tartaruga Feliz quit (timeout) 16:40:38 <da> Kalhaan quit (timeout) 16:43:46 <Illya> Kalhaan quit (timeout) 17:15:58 <Illya> da quit (timeout) 17:51:40 <Illya> da quit (timeout) 18:19:35 <Kalhaan> da quit (timeout) 18:56:08 <Kalhaan> Illya quit (timeout) 20:42:16 <Illya> Kalhaan quit (timeout) 20:49:53 <> da joins Farsides 21:11:03 <da> Kalhaan quit (timeout) 22:58:19 <da> Illya quit (timeout) _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
