On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 20:19 +0200, Xavier Antoviaque wrote: > Following the arbitration with Multiprogramming, I've just posted an > updated version of the Card Stories specifications on vWorker (to > includes the changes that were planned for beta1.2), and unsubscribed > Gary & Illya from the mailing-list. > > http://www.vworker.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1524374 > > > Don't hesitate to bid, or to pass the URL along if you know anyone who > would be good for this job.
I've got a good reply from a bidder that has a good history: http://www.codefire.in/ http://www.vworker.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareCoders/ShowBioInfo.aspx?lngAuthorId=6755779 Copying the discussion here so you can have a look if you're interested. If it's ok for everyone, I'll accept the bid. ====================== By False|1 CodeFire Technologies Pvt Ltd with 16 ratings averaging 9.5 (Excellent) >From Noida, Uttar Pradesh in India (see local date/time) Posting # 32,099,284 on Saturday Oct 23, 2010 2:53:52 PM EDT Hi, Thanks for the detailed description. We are still going through the complete application, however we have a couple questions. 1. The application will be developed in PHP? Do you think some parts need to be developed in Flash? 2. I believe it will be a iFrame based application and not FBML. Please confirm. We are still going through the complete description of game and will get back in case we have any questions. Thanks, Ajay ________________________________________________________________________ By False|1 flouzo with 21 ratings >From Paris, Ile de France in France (see local date/time) Posting # 32,104,231 on Sunday Oct 24, 2010 5:11:51 AM EDT Hi Ajay, Thanks for your message, and for taking the time to review the specifications. For your questions: 1) Yes, the development is in PHP/Ajax - no Flash. 2) That's correct - it is Iframe-based and not FBML. Let me know if you have any other question! Thanks, Xavier. ________________________________________________________________________ By False|1 flouzo with 21 ratings >From Paris, Ile de France in France (see local date/time) Posting # 32,105,770 on Sunday Oct 24, 2010 9:39:11 AM EDT Hi again, I visited your website in the meantime, and I noticed this page: http://www.codefire.in/open-source.html I'm glad you like Open Source, as we are an open source video game studio :) http://farsides.com/wiki/Social_Contract Looking forward to your bid, Xavier. ________________________________________________________________________ By False|1 CodeFire Technologies Pvt Ltd with 16 ratings averaging 9.5 (Excellent) >From Noida, Uttar Pradesh in India (see local date/time) Posting # 32,115,631 on Monday Oct 25, 2010 4:46:11 AM EDT A bid in the amount of $1,500.00 (USD) was posted by CodeFire Technologies Pvt Ltd (the worker). Hi Xavier, Thanks for the message. We have broadly understood the game application and should be able to develop it in about 30 working days. There are some points that will need to be discussed after the project is awarded, I assume that you will be available via skype or some other IM to discuss the project. I also assume that all the design related to the project will be provided by you. 1. Some parts of the project, if infeasible as discovered during the development of the project, due to technical limitations on FB side or any other will need to be altered. 2.I assume that currently we will only be working on the application and shall store the application in our local svn repository during development. Once delivered it can be stored in Launchpad etc. 3. We shall use either cakePHP or Symfony or similar PHP framework for development 4. We have not used http://siliconforks.com/jscoverage/ and will check to see how we can use this with the project 5. Unit testing:- test coverage will have to be checked as we have not implemented unit testing with FB applications and will have to check up to what extent that is possible. 6. We have not used windmill tests and are not sure if they will work with FB app, please confirm that we need to create testes using windmill, in that case please confrim if its okay that we provide the estimate of creating these tests seperately once we know the effort. 7. We understand that the application needs to support i18n, as described above we may use some standard framework to develop the application, hence will use support of the same framework for i18n. 8. All player actions are logged in a table in the database, along with all the relevant contextual information: date/time, username, action, result, game id, etc. We shall define these during designing of the application and will get approval from you before coding. 9. Please explain the below points All server pages/URLs and user actions are tagged using Open Web Analytics. Best! Ajay ________________________________________________________________________ By False|1 flouzo with 21 ratings >From Paris, Ile de France in France (see local date/time) Posting # 32,116,396 on Monday Oct 25, 2010 5:56:36 AM EDT Hi Ajay, Thanks for your reply! Here are some details related to your points above: > We have broadly understood the game application and should be able to develop it in about 30 working days. There are some points that will need to be discussed after the project is awarded, I assume that you will be available via skype or some other IM to discuss the project. I also assume that all the design related to the project will be provided by you. The bid and the delay are fine - thank you. For communication, it's an important topic for us, so let me explain a bit how we work, so you can tell me if this would be ok for you. Since we are an open source studio, all discussions happen on a public mailing-list. If we work together, we would subscribe you to this mailing-list, and use it as the main way to communicate (we can of course copy the main informations vWorker to ensure decisions are properly documented). In pure open source fashion, we would need to interact directly with the developer - I hope it's ok for you. This means that the developer working on the project would need to be fluent in English, and be willing to interact openly with the other members of the project. The mailing-list can be high traffic on some days (1-20 emails per day), but most of the emails can be quickly skimmed. Basically the communication requirements for the developer would be: * Answer emails on the mailing-list/forum that are addressed to him within 24 hours * Post daily reports to allow to follow the project's progress * Be present in the chat at http://farsides.com/chat/ during business hours, to be able to quickly solve an issue if necessary Let me know if that's ok with you! > 1. Some parts of the project, if infeasible as discovered during the development of the project, due to technical limitations on FB side or any other will need to be altered. Yes - when something is impossible we can find solutions together, to match the original specifications as much as possible. > 2.I assume that currently we will only be working on the application and shall store the application in our local svn repository during development. Once delivered it can be stored in Launchpad etc. Is there a specific issue that would prevent you from commiting to the Launchpad repository during development? We found it's much easier to follow the development this way - we do code reviews, so it's easier if it's done progressively rather than discovering issues at the end. > 3. We shall use either cakePHP or Symfony or similar PHP framework for development Yup, fine with me - as long as we both agree on the framework, and that it allows to fullfill the project requirements, it shouldn't be an issue. > 4. We have not used http://siliconforks.com/jscoverage/ and will check to see how we can use this with the project > 5. Unit testing:- test coverage will have to be checked as we have not implemented unit testing with FB applications and will have to check up to what extent that is possible. No worries - some of the project contributors have extensive experience with the framework and unit test, you should be able to get help if you are stuck or have questions. > 6. We have not used windmill tests and are not sure if they will work with FB app, please confirm that we need to create testes using windmill, in that case please confrim if its okay that we provide the estimate of creating these tests seperately once we know the effort. They should work - basically Windmill tests are just automated actions/clicks performed through a browser, so they should work with Facebook applications. But same thing - if you're stuck, ask for help, we'll try to come up with a solution together. > 7. We understand that the application needs to support i18n, as described above we may use some standard framework to develop the application, hence will use support of the same framework for i18n. To handle translations we use Launchpad, to allow our contributors to easily provide translations in their own language. We thus need the translation files to comply with the Launchpad requirements as described in https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/ImportPolicy?action=show&redirect=Translations%2FImportPolicy#Technical%20rules otherwise it would hinder the translation process. But as long as those policies are observed, using the framework's i18n support is fine. > 8. "All player actions are logged in a table in the database, along with all the relevant contextual information: date/time, username, action, result, game id, etc." We shall define these during designing of the application and will get approval from you before coding. Perfect. >9. Please explain the below points "All server pages/URLs and user actions are tagged using Open Web Analytics. " Sure! We use Open Web Analytics ( http://www.openwebanalytics.com/ ) to track our traffic and the action of the users. It's an open-source alternative to solutions such as Google Analytics - let me know if you need additional details there. And if you have any other question or observation, let me know! Xavier. ________________________________________________________________________ By False|1 CodeFire Technologies Pvt Ltd >From Noida, Uttar Pradesh in India (see local date/time) Posting # 32,117,242 on Monday Oct 25, 2010 7:27:58 AM EDT We are fine with the points mentioned here and are ready to go ahead with the project. Best! Ajay _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/

