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2011-04-25 07:06:57+0000 da (da) is now online
2011-04-25 07:06:57+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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2011-04-25 07:54:21+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: hello : )
2011-04-25 07:54:54+0000 <dachary> hi
2011-04-25 07:55:26+0000 <dachary> eve: welcome  back
2011-04-25 07:55:26+0000 <eve> dachary: Sorry...
2011-04-25 07:55:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha ;p
2011-04-25 07:56:07+0000 <antoviaque> I didn't notice she was down - now she 
should hopefully reconnect if it happens again ;p
2011-04-25 07:57:29+0000 <antoviaque> I've seen your questions from yesterday 
evening btw - I finish installing a testing version of buddypress and I'll 
discuss those with you
2011-04-25 07:57:41+0000 <antoviaque> (was at a bar yesterday night ;p )
2011-04-25 07:57:44+0000 <dachary> http://freshmeat.net/projects/cardstories
2011-04-25 07:58:25+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: what's your freshmeat id ? 
2011-04-25 07:58:54+0000 <antoviaque> oh kewwwl
2011-04-25 07:58:56+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2011-04-25 07:59:01+0000 <antoviaque> id => xavierantoviaque
2011-04-25 07:59:38+0000 * antoviaque voted
2011-04-25 08:00:17+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: if your sources.list is 
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ sid/main
2011-04-25 08:00:40+0000 <dachary> you should be able to install 
python-cardstories : it's in Debian now
2011-04-25 08:00:55+0000 <antoviaque> yey I saw - really kewl : )
2011-04-25 08:01:07+0000 <antoviaque> it was really fast for Debian ;p
2011-04-25 08:01:13+0000 <dachary> :-) And it propagated to the french mirrors
2011-04-25 08:01:24+0000 <antoviaque> yey! ;p
2011-04-25 08:01:38+0000 <antoviaque> I don't have a sid installed, but I'll 
test on a VM
2011-04-25 08:03:36+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: can you confirm that you can 
edit http://freshmeat.net/projects/cardstories ? 
2011-04-25 08:04:13+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I have the admin panel - thanks!
2011-04-25 08:07:16+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think that if you add
2011-04-25 08:07:30+0000 <dachary> deb 
http://cardstori.es/packaging-farm/cardstories/gnulinux/debian/x86_64/wheezy/src
 ./ deb-src 
http://cardstori.es/packaging-farm/cardstories/gnulinux/debian/x86_64/wheezy/src
 ./
2011-04-25 08:07:34+0000 <dachary> to your source list
2011-04-25 08:07:42+0000 <dachary> it will work even on ubuntu
2011-04-25 08:08:03+0000 <antoviaque> let me try
2011-04-25 08:08:06+0000 <dachary> what ubuntu version are you running ? 
2011-04-25 08:08:15+0000 <antoviaque> the latest
2011-04-25 08:08:17+0000 <dachary> deb 
http://cardstori.es/packaging-farm/cardstories/gnulinux/debian/x86_64/wheezy/src
 ./
2011-04-25 08:08:22+0000 <dachary> just this line
2011-04-25 08:08:28+0000 <dachary> the above got mixed up
2011-04-25 08:10:51+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: "latest" at this time of the 
year is ambiguous with regard to ubuntu ;-) You're not running the current beta 
but Maverick which is the stable published back in october, right ? 
2011-04-25 08:11:01+0000 <antoviaque> yes ;p
2011-04-25 08:11:22+0000 <antoviaque> I keep my ubuntus and debians in stable, 
I got bitten too many times ;p
2011-04-25 08:11:25+0000 <dachary> Natty release date is in 3 days ;-)
2011-04-25 08:11:34+0000 <antoviaque> yep, waiting impatiently for it :D
2011-04-25 08:11:38+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque> Setting up python-cardstories (1.0.0-1) 
...
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>  * Starting cardstories... Traceback 
(most recent call last):
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>     run()
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>   File "/usr/bin/twistd", line 19, in 
<module>
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/scripts/twistd.py", line 27, in run
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>     app.run(runApp, ServerOptions)
2011-04-25 08:11:46+0000 <antoviaque>   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 621, in run
2011-04-25 08:11:47+0000 <antoviaque>     config.parseOptions()
2011-04-25 08:11:47+0000 <antoviaque>   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 601, in 
parseOptions
2011-04-25 08:11:48+0000 <antoviaque>     usage.Options.parseOptions(self, 
options)
2011-04-25 08:11:48+0000 <antoviaque>   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/python/usage.py", line 229, in 
parseOptions
2011-04-25 08:11:49+0000 <antoviaque>     self.subOptions = parser()
2011-04-25 08:11:49+0000 <antoviaque>   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 613, in 
<lambda>
2011-04-25 08:11:50+0000 <antoviaque>     yield (plug.tapname, None, lambda: 
plug.options(), plug.description)
2011-04-25 08:13:08+0000 <antoviaque> http://pastebin.com/ceVSC7sY
2011-04-25 08:13:19+0000 <antoviaque> You want me to create a bug report?
2011-04-25 08:13:37+0000 <antoviaque> Or is it just because of version 
differences with ubuntu?
2011-04-25 08:15:14+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: no, it's a known bug
2011-04-25 08:15:19+0000 <dachary> only the first time around
2011-04-25 08:15:31+0000 <dachary> /etc/init.d/python-cardstories start
2011-04-25 08:15:34+0000 <dachary> will work
2011-04-25 08:15:37+0000 <dachary> it puzzles me 
2011-04-25 08:15:44+0000 <dachary> 
http://cardstori.es/packaging-farm/cardstories/gnulinux/debian/x86_64/maverick/src/
2011-04-25 08:15:54+0000 <dachary> this is a maverick package
2011-04-25 08:17:44+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: added to the home page too 
http://cardstori.es/trac/wiki/WikiStart#Install
2011-04-25 08:19:03+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/3 this 
problem is one of the first tickets I filled
2011-04-25 08:19:38+0000 <dachary> I figured it would be easier for me to get 
help about it once people would be able to reproduce it easily
2011-04-25 08:19:50+0000 <dachary> but I did not anticipate that it would go in 
debian so quick ;-)
2011-04-25 08:27:25+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-04-25 08:28:55+0000 <dachary> did you manage to run the package ? 
2011-04-25 08:29:24+0000 <antoviaque> To access the static HTML dir, do you 
make /usr/share/cardstories/ accessible from any HTTP server?
2011-04-25 08:29:36+0000 <antoviaque> It didn't propose to configure apache 
automagically ;p
2011-04-25 08:29:45+0000 <antoviaque> so I'm trying to figure out
2011-04-25 08:31:01+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: you don't need
2011-04-25 08:31:10+0000 <dachary> just http://localhost:4923/
2011-04-25 08:31:31+0000 <antoviaque> I tried that, but I get "Use /resource or 
/static or /agpl"
2011-04-25 08:31:50+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/9
2011-04-25 08:31:59+0000 <dachary> http://localhost:4923/static/
2011-04-25 08:32:06+0000 <dachary> or
2011-04-25 08:32:18+0000 <dachary> http://localhost:4923/agpl/ (but that's only 
to download the sources)
2011-04-25 08:32:21+0000 <dachary> or
2011-04-25 08:32:28+0000 <dachary> http://localhost:4923/resource/
2011-04-25 08:32:36+0000 <dachary> but you need to talk json fluently ;-)
2011-04-25 08:33:07+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I added a ticket for apache 
configuration 
2011-04-25 08:33:08+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/9
2011-04-25 08:34:06+0000 <antoviaque> ahhhh of course *stupid*
2011-04-25 08:34:09+0000 <antoviaque> It works!
2011-04-25 08:34:34+0000 <antoviaque> very kewl :D
2011-04-25 08:38:12+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/3#comment:2
2011-04-25 08:38:14+0000 <antoviaque> It's good like this too - apache is more 
fine tuning if the static content is already served. What I was missing was 
mostly a message "Go to http://localhost:4923/static/ to play" after the 
configuration 
2011-04-25 08:38:59+0000 <dachary> I think apache is mandatory
2011-04-25 08:39:12+0000 <dachary> anything that does not work the first time 
around is massively disruptive
2011-04-25 08:39:23+0000 <dachary> and most people have apache installed
2011-04-25 08:39:32+0000 <dachary> not nginx
2011-04-25 08:39:44+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: did you see the benchmarks ? 
2011-04-25 08:39:53+0000 <antoviaque> yes! very impressive
2011-04-25 08:40:06+0000 <antoviaque> I think with PHP it would be much much 
more
2011-04-25 08:40:45+0000 <dachary> It is as it should be. Which is impressive, 
I agree. Most of the time when stressing a web service it's not "as it should 
be" but "WTF" ;-)
2011-04-25 08:41:03+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-04-25 08:41:12+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: with PHP the only way around is 
to write a standalone PHP server
2011-04-25 08:41:32+0000 <dachary> otherwise you have 1 process per client 
which is 8MB * 500 => 4GB
2011-04-25 08:42:22+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-04-25 08:43:38+0000 <dachary> The only thing I'm unsure about is how long 
to wait for the long poll
2011-04-25 08:43:58+0000 <dachary> 5 minutes is good but it may be too much for 
proxies that sit between the user and the game
2011-04-25 08:44:53+0000 <antoviaque> we'll probably get bug reports about it, 
we'll be able to adjust then
2011-04-25 09:51:43+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: are you going to the April pique 
nique? :)
2011-04-25 09:57:12+0000 <dachary> no, I'm working today
2011-04-25 09:57:53+0000 <antoviaque> ah, true... too bad, you won't get any of 
my pancakes ;p
2011-04-25 10:19:02+0000 <dachary> :-)
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