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2011-06-06 00:01:30+0000 <rogerio> dachary: thank you very much
2011-06-06 00:01:31+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-06-06 00:01:59+0000 <dachary> I did a mistake of consequence to you by not 
reviewing #54 properly when you asked me to validate the principle
2011-06-06 00:01:59+0000 <dachary> I brought my mistake to the attention of 
Xavier so that you do not suffer from it
2011-06-06 00:01:59+0000 <dachary> I apologize for the inconvenience
2011-06-06 00:02:00+0000 <dachary> and I'm going to bed now
2011-06-06 00:02:58+0000 <rogerio> thank you Dachary
2011-06-06 00:03:05+0000 <rogerio> have nice dreams
2011-06-06 00:03:06+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-06-06 00:44:15+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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2011-06-06 12:15:50+0000 * blanchard is discovering the solo mode. Thx dachary 
:)
2011-06-06 12:16:19+0000 <dachary> blanchard: yw ;-)
2011-06-06 12:28:02+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-06-06 12:28:05+0000 <romulo> good morning
2011-06-06 13:00:49+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-06-06 13:09:19+0000 <dachary> I showed the game to a friend. Tried to 
explain the principle using the solo mode. It failed miserably. I'm not too 
worried though : it was my first try and my explanations were confusing ;-)
2011-06-06 13:22:20+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: hello
2011-06-06 13:22:27+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, hi there
2011-06-06 13:22:51+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, im going to finish the patch 
reviews and upload the fixes today, so tomorrow we can pick another task and 
continue development. Is that Ok?
2011-06-06 13:23:04+0000 <antoviaque> how are you? : )
2011-06-06 13:23:11+0000 <romulo> Im fine, thanks. You?
2011-06-06 13:23:18+0000 <romulo> I am finally rested, ready to do more work =D
2011-06-06 13:23:25+0000 <antoviaque> very well - I like my Mondays off ;p
2011-06-06 13:23:37+0000 <antoviaque> ah, cool : ) I know you needed it!
2011-06-06 13:23:56+0000 <antoviaque> and it's fine for the patche reviews and 
fixes, as well as the new task tomorrow
2011-06-06 13:24:08+0000 <romulo> good =]
2011-06-06 13:24:17+0000 <romulo> so i can finish things today, upload them by 
night and get ready tomorrow
2011-06-06 13:24:18+0000 <antoviaque> I wanted to talk to you about that, 
because the emails patch is starting to block several things
2011-06-06 13:24:25+0000 <antoviaque> yep, perfect
2011-06-06 13:24:41+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, yeah i though about this 
yesterday.
2011-06-06 13:24:59+0000 <antoviaque> if it's merged tomorrow it's good
2011-06-06 13:25:38+0000 <romulo> i hope so
2011-06-06 13:25:47+0000 <romulo> will commit today and review/finish it for 
merge tomorrow =D
2011-06-06 13:25:56+0000 <antoviaque> because otherwise it would have forced to 
either break your patch or rework it, to allow the merge of plugin+solo mode
2011-06-06 13:25:56+0000 <romulo> i gotta go now, need to go to the other work 
:P
2011-06-06 13:25:59+0000 <antoviaque> ok!
2011-06-06 13:26:05+0000 <antoviaque> good luck : )
2011-06-06 13:26:07+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, will finish it today =]
2011-06-06 13:26:08+0000 <romulo> thanks
2011-06-06 13:26:26+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the info!
2011-06-06 14:20:31+0000 rogerio (rogerio) is now online
2011-06-06 14:20:50+0000 <rogerio> Hi everyone
2011-06-06 14:21:10+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Hi
2011-06-06 14:21:18+0000 <antoviaque> hi rogerio : )
2011-06-06 14:21:24+0000 <antoviaque> had a nice week-end?
2011-06-06 14:21:24+0000 <rogerio> : )
2011-06-06 14:21:42+0000 <rogerio> yes, working a lot
2011-06-06 14:22:10+0000 <rogerio> yesterday I was learning symfony
2011-06-06 14:22:20+0000 <rogerio> symfony is a big framework with ORM
2011-06-06 14:22:43+0000 <rogerio> it creates apps and models for database 
schema
2011-06-06 14:23:21+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I've had a look a bit, it seemed 
good for a framework as far as I could see : )
2011-06-06 14:23:29+0000 <antoviaque> did you like it?
2011-06-06 14:24:31+0000 <rogerio> technical discussion
2011-06-06 14:24:32+0000 <rogerio> about the task #4, opengraph
2011-06-06 14:25:07+0000 <rogerio> a little bit, I prefer django or more simple 
flask
2011-06-06 14:25:42+0000 <rogerio> what I should do is only create a single php 
file that returns the metatags for facebook, am I right?
2011-06-06 14:26:35+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: about #4, remember that the URL 
will be the one shared to Facebook for example 
2011-06-06 14:26:53+0000 <antoviaque> (so that facebook retreives the open 
graph meta info from this url)
2011-06-06 14:27:01+0000 <antoviaque> so it means that it will be the games 
permalink
2011-06-06 14:27:13+0000 <rogerio> so, in index.html, we will have on <iframe 
src="POINTING TO AN URL OF SYMFONY">
2011-06-06 14:27:15+0000 <antoviaque> imho you should serve the index.html 
through symfony
2011-06-06 14:27:33+0000 <antoviaque> nope, the opposite
2011-06-06 14:27:47+0000 <rogerio> and then SYMFONY takes the player_id, 
game_id, values etc, and put those on metatags for facebook
2011-06-06 14:28:03+0000 <antoviaque> otherwise it will mean that there will be 
2 different urls to access a single game
2011-06-06 14:28:15+0000 <rogerio> hmmm
2011-06-06 14:28:22+0000 <antoviaque> and doing it this way allow to plug more 
things from symfony, like the auth system for example
2011-06-06 14:28:29+0000 <antoviaque> (remember we'll also use fb connect)
2011-06-06 14:28:58+0000 <antoviaque> you see what I mean?
2011-06-06 14:30:03+0000 <rogerio> I am truing to understand, it a little bit 
confuse, let read again what you wrote
2011-06-06 14:31:37+0000 <rogerio> I did not understand when you said the 
opposite
2011-06-06 14:32:55+0000 <antoviaque> What I mean is that symfony would 
directly serve the HTML
2011-06-06 14:33:10+0000 <antoviaque> there would not be any static HTML anymore
2011-06-06 14:33:23+0000 <rogerio> ok, let me think more pratically
2011-06-06 14:33:29+0000 <antoviaque> depending on the url arguments, symfony 
would modify the headers accordingly
2011-06-06 14:33:44+0000 <rogerio> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=201  -> REAL
2011-06-06 14:34:01+0000 <rogerio> http://oursymfoney.app/?game_id=201
2011-06-06 14:34:16+0000 <rogerio> above wiil retrive the same page with the 
metatags filled
2011-06-06 14:34:29+0000 <rogerio> 2 urls
2011-06-06 14:35:14+0000 <rogerio> the first will retrieve a static HTML and 
the second will retrive the page with the metatags replaced, am I write?
2011-06-06 14:35:58+0000 <antoviaque> almost : )
2011-06-06 14:36:15+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: will symfony substitute 
cardstori.es?
2011-06-06 14:36:19+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=201 would be 
the only URL, served by symfony
2011-06-06 14:36:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-06-06 14:36:27+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: ahhh, more clear!!
2011-06-06 14:36:43+0000 <rogerio> more clear now
2011-06-06 14:36:43+0000 <antoviaque> and the "real" HTML would be the symfony 
template
2011-06-06 14:36:44+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-06-06 14:36:47+0000 <antoviaque> cool : )
2011-06-06 14:37:05+0000 <antoviaque> sorry if my explanations weren't clear
2011-06-06 14:37:15+0000 <rogerio> no, no, sorry me
2011-06-06 14:37:21+0000 <rogerio> I'm just stupid
2011-06-06 14:37:24+0000 <rogerio> :(
2011-06-06 14:37:44+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, of course not : )
2011-06-06 14:38:05+0000 <rogerio> I'm really sorry trying to understand this 
again with you
2011-06-06 14:38:11+0000 <antoviaque> do you see how to do it?
2011-06-06 14:38:26+0000 <rogerio> now I understand
2011-06-06 14:38:40+0000 <rogerio> I thought that the real page would be the 
original one
2011-06-06 14:39:55+0000 <rogerio> now I understand that http://cardstori.es/ 
will be only a webservice, just to serve a static page, and symfony will be the 
template system
2011-06-06 14:40:25+0000 <rogerio> the game will always pass through symfony
2011-06-06 14:41:13+0000 <rogerio> thank you antoviaque, I'll try to finish 
this today
2011-06-06 14:42:01+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: lunch time now
2011-06-06 14:42:06+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-06-06 14:42:11+0000 <antoviaque> glad to have been helpful!
2011-06-06 14:42:16+0000 <antoviaque> have a good lunch : )
2011-06-06 14:42:25+0000 <rogerio> I'll be back later
2011-06-06 14:42:30+0000 <antoviaque> see you : )
2011-06-06 14:42:34+0000 <rogerio> thank you, have a nice day :)
2011-06-06 16:01:56+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-06-06 18:26:38+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: did you prevail in your battle 
against sparkleshare ? 
2011-06-06 21:41:12+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-06-06 21:41:17+0000 <romulo> dachary, ping
2011-06-06 21:41:28+0000 <dachary> romulo: pong
2011-06-06 21:42:34+0000 <romulo> dachary, -> 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47 You said "retrieve templates from path, 
not from url" -> I should declare a new variable in services for the emails 
path?
2011-06-06 21:45:07+0000 <dachary> yes, you can use:
2011-06-06 21:45:08+0000 <dachary>          ["plugins-confdir", "", 
"/etc/cardstories/plugins", "plugins configuration directory", str],
2011-06-06 21:45:26+0000 <dachary> so that it will be compatible with the 
upcoming plugin system
2011-06-06 21:45:42+0000 <dachary> (in tap.py)
2011-06-06 21:46:25+0000 <dachary> and have all the mail templates in 
settings['plugins-confidir']/mail
2011-06-06 21:46:36+0000 <dachary> does that make sense ? 
2011-06-06 21:46:48+0000 <dachary> romulo: ^
2011-06-06 21:47:06+0000 <romulo> it does. Is this var already in main repo?
2011-06-06 21:47:14+0000 <dachary> no
2011-06-06 21:47:26+0000 <dachary> but it will later this week
2011-06-06 21:47:46+0000 <dachary> if you use it you won't have to change it 
later on ;-)
2011-06-06 21:47:53+0000 <romulo> yeah but tests wont pass =P
2011-06-06 21:48:08+0000 <dachary> you can add it to tap.py
2011-06-06 21:48:15+0000 <romulo> ok
2011-06-06 21:50:23+0000 <romulo> can i remove mail-body and mail-subject? They 
seem out of place now
2011-06-06 21:50:35+0000 <dachary> yes you can
2011-06-06 21:52:18+0000 <romulo> Ok thanks. I am making sure tests now 
complete 100% and things work before resending
2011-06-06 21:54:29+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-06-06 21:54:50+0000 <romulo> dachary, Are you ok with me removing 
attachment support and plain text from HtmlEmail ?
2011-06-06 21:54:58+0000 <romulo> they are *not* used
2011-06-06 21:55:47+0000 <dachary> I'm not sure what you're asking. You wrote 
code that's not used and you want to not commit it ? 
2011-06-06 21:56:09+0000 <romulo> it was used on the test phase. Now i dont use 
it anymore
2011-06-06 21:56:28+0000 <romulo> I will just remove it.
2011-06-06 21:56:43+0000 <dachary> Then I agree. It's better to remove unused 
code.
2011-06-06 21:57:08+0000 <romulo> Plain text emails could be of some use but I 
am yet to see a client that uses it
2011-06-06 23:53:28+0000 <romulo> dachary, ping
2011-06-06 23:53:44+0000 <dachary> pong
2011-06-06 23:56:04+0000 <romulo> sorry for taking your attention, i already 
solved the problem by myself.
2011-06-06 23:56:11+0000 <dachary> :-)
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