Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-06-09.
2011-06-09 00:07:03+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-09 05:28:52+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-09 07:23:13+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-09 07:23:43+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm at the café downstairs. Are you up ? 2011-06-09 07:27:18+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i'm working from home today 2011-06-09 07:27:36+0000 <blanchard> some new work for the school 2011-06-09 07:28:21+0000 <blanchard> but i'll be available for the playtest, at least on the chat if i don't come to your place 2011-06-09 07:29:24+0000 <antoviaque> sure 2011-06-09 07:29:32+0000 <antoviaque> you mean you are in the menilmontant cafe? 2011-06-09 07:30:12+0000 <antoviaque> and hi : ) 2011-06-09 07:30:31+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yes, if you look at your window you can say hi to me :-) 2011-06-09 07:33:12+0000 <antoviaque> coming to share a coffee with you then - give me 5 minutes I'll be there : ) 2011-06-09 08:22:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-09 09:19:03+0000 <antoviaque> Reminder! Playtest this evening at 6pm GMT+2 :D 2011-06-09 09:50:46+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-09 10:18:08+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-09 10:31:47+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ok 2011-06-09 13:03:43+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-06-09 13:03:55+0000 <romulo> morning =] 2011-06-09 13:04:48+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping 2011-06-09 13:05:18+0000 <romulo> blanchard, im sending you the account information as soon as i have it, i already requested 2011-06-09 13:36:06+0000 <blanchard> hi romulo 2011-06-09 13:36:08+0000 <blanchard> ok 2011-06-09 14:04:39+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: hi! 2011-06-09 14:47:30+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-06-09 14:47:37+0000 <romulo> im back 2011-06-09 14:47:43+0000 <romulo> computer crashed :( 2011-06-09 14:50:37+0000 <antoviaque> re : ) 2011-06-09 14:51:13+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: dachary: romulo: tartarugafeliz: Playtest in a bit more than 1 hour : ) 2011-06-09 14:59:13+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, yeah, im going to lunch soon 2011-06-09 14:59:16+0000 <romulo> will be available when i come back 2011-06-09 14:59:45+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, im changing #65 estimate ok? 2011-06-09 14:59:59+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: ok for the lunch 2011-06-09 15:00:04+0000 <antoviaque> for #65 let me see 2011-06-09 15:00:07+0000 <romulo> i realized i end up taking more time than i plan. And for safety im not going bet on the lower. 2011-06-09 15:01:10+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: can you explain a bit more about what you didn't anticipated? 2011-06-09 15:01:22+0000 <antoviaque> remember than changes of estimates must be justified, they aren't automatic : ) 2011-06-09 15:01:35+0000 <antoviaque> otherwise there is little point in making one ;p 2011-06-09 15:01:48+0000 <antoviaque> but if there is a good reason, then of course 2011-06-09 15:03:51+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, well, initially i didnt know i would have to mess with the plugin system, first i just created accepted it and then later (when we put the comments) we decided to wait for plugins. Then here come tests and those are tests, reviews and commit for ALL events (quoting you) 2011-06-09 15:03:59+0000 <romulo> s/created//g 2011-06-09 15:04:13+0000 <antoviaque> I see - it makes sense yep 2011-06-09 15:04:25+0000 <antoviaque> how much time do you estimate it will take you? 2011-06-09 15:04:34+0000 <romulo> from 8 to 12 2011-06-09 15:05:00+0000 <romulo> i gotta start working on it first (will do today) to be sure 2011-06-09 15:05:06+0000 <antoviaque> ok - you can put 12 then to be safe and leave room for reviews 2011-06-09 15:05:12+0000 <romulo> good. 2011-06-09 15:05:20+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-06-09 15:05:25+0000 <romulo> will touch it when i get home 2011-06-09 15:05:43+0000 <romulo> also will start today on this one and try to get #68 completed 2011-06-09 15:06:24+0000 <antoviaque> sounds perfect 2011-06-09 15:06:43+0000 <antoviaque> you'll be there in one hour? 2011-06-09 15:07:09+0000 <romulo> i hope so 2011-06-09 15:07:38+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-06-09 15:40:30+0000 <antoviaque> Playtest in 20 minutes : ) 2011-06-09 15:50:59+0000 rogerio (rogerio) is now online 2011-06-09 15:51:12+0000 <antoviaque> hi rogerio : ) 2011-06-09 15:51:12+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Hi 2011-06-09 15:51:19+0000 <rogerio> Hi, how are you? 2011-06-09 15:51:21+0000 <rogerio> :) 2011-06-09 15:51:36+0000 <rogerio> everybody ready for the playtest? 2011-06-09 15:52:09+0000 <antoviaque> almost : ) 2011-06-09 15:52:18+0000 <antoviaque> missing blanchard still 2011-06-09 15:52:20+0000 <rogerio> great 2011-06-09 15:52:28+0000 <rogerio> I'll wait here 2011-06-09 15:52:37+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: here i am 2011-06-09 15:52:45+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz won't come, she had to go to the doctor 2011-06-09 15:52:50+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yeyy : ) 2011-06-09 15:53:01+0000 <blanchard> nothing serious regarding Deb ? 2011-06-09 15:53:05+0000 <antoviaque> nope 2011-06-09 15:53:11+0000 <blanchard> ok 2011-06-09 15:53:17+0000 <antoviaque> just forgot she had this appointment :/ 2011-06-09 15:53:21+0000 <blanchard> back in 5mn 2011-06-09 15:53:26+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-06-09 15:53:27+0000 <blanchard> at 6pm :p 2011-06-09 15:56:09+0000 <dachary> hop 2011-06-09 15:56:54+0000 <blanchard> back 2011-06-09 15:59:58+0000 <dachary> back 2011-06-09 16:00:02+0000 <antoviaque> so so so : ) 2011-06-09 16:00:04+0000 <dachary> go ! 2011-06-09 16:00:06+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-06-09 16:00:07+0000 <dachary> gogogogogog 2011-06-09 16:00:17+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: how much time will the test take? do you have some estimate? 2011-06-09 16:00:42+0000 <antoviaque> not sure since I never did it this way 2011-06-09 16:00:54+0000 <rogerio> ok, thanks:) 2011-06-09 16:00:57+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=158 2011-06-09 16:01:01+0000 <antoviaque> but I think the play session should be short (depends on how many games we do) 2011-06-09 16:01:10+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: wait wait wait :p 2011-06-09 16:01:13+0000 <dachary> gogogo 2011-06-09 16:01:15+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-06-09 16:01:16+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-06-09 16:01:17+0000 <blanchard> haha 2011-06-09 16:01:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: start meeting 2011-06-09 16:01:29+0000 * eve gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles 2011-06-09 16:01:33+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-06-09 16:01:34+0000 <blanchard> dachary: you young crazy dog 2011-06-09 16:01:37+0000 <dachary> eve_: *smack* 2011-06-09 16:01:37+0000 <eve> dachary: What? 2011-06-09 16:02:04+0000 <antoviaque> so since we all know the game inside out, this will be very different conditions than a "real" playtest 2011-06-09 16:02:41+0000 <antoviaque> but the idea is to try to put ourselves in the skin of a new player, and see if the tools for the playtest are good 2011-06-09 16:02:48+0000 <dachary> the idea is to fake a real playtest, right ? 2011-06-09 16:02:53+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-06-09 16:03:04+0000 <dachary> I will play the dumb player 2011-06-09 16:03:06+0000 <antoviaque> to get comments and try it out on ourselves first ;p 2011-06-09 16:03:11+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha, cool :) 2011-06-09 16:03:15+0000 <antoviaque> so I'll start by creating a few games 2011-06-09 16:03:23+0000 * dachary wipe out his memory 2011-06-09 16:03:24+0000 <rogerio> ok 2011-06-09 16:03:26+0000 <dachary> EMP on 2011-06-09 16:03:35+0000 <antoviaque> then some more with you as authors 2011-06-09 16:03:50+0000 <rogerio> ok, good 2011-06-09 16:03:51+0000 <blanchard> do we fill the playtest form at the same time ? 2011-06-09 16:03:53+0000 <dachary> what's the game about ? 2011-06-09 16:03:55+0000 <antoviaque> then (and it's likely to be the longest part here) we'll try to fill out the form for players 2011-06-09 16:04:30+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: wait until you have the game in front of you ;p 2011-06-09 16:04:46+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-09 16:04:52+0000 <dachary> where is the form / 2011-06-09 16:04:53+0000 <dachary> ? 2011-06-09 16:05:00+0000 <antoviaque> (I play the organiser - basically I don't explain, I let the game explain himself, but I answer questions when they arise) 2011-06-09 16:05:16+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: it will be at the end 2011-06-09 16:05:19+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-09 16:05:25+0000 * dachary listening 2011-06-09 16:05:28+0000 <antoviaque> ah! also - the difference is that a real playtest is better in the same room 2011-06-09 16:05:35+0000 <antoviaque> to see how the players react 2011-06-09 16:06:01+0000 <antoviaque> and computers would ideally have screen recording setup 2011-06-09 16:06:12+0000 <antoviaque> to keep it on file and go back to it afterwards 2011-06-09 16:06:22+0000 <antoviaque> but here since we know the game, there would be little point 2011-06-09 16:06:35+0000 <dachary> I am in the same room as antoviaque 2011-06-09 16:06:49+0000 <antoviaque> anyway, back to our subject - I'll create a game 2011-06-09 16:06:55+0000 <dachary> oooooh : he bought candies for the playtesters. How nice of you antoviaque. 2011-06-09 16:07:05+0000 * dachary unwraps a lolypop 2011-06-09 16:07:17+0000 <antoviaque> play here: http://cardstori.es/?game_id=159&; 2011-06-09 16:07:45+0000 <blanchard> I object, the remote playtesters should be provided with candies too 2011-06-09 16:08:15+0000 <antoviaque> (btw try to put some of your reactions here on irc, so that I can try to fill the organiser form better : ) ) 2011-06-09 16:08:33+0000 <rogerio> who are playing now? /me, dachary, antoviaque, blanchard? 2011-06-09 16:08:44+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-06-09 16:08:45+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I typed dummy (my name) in the box but it does nothing 2011-06-09 16:09:05+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: the error message is below 2011-06-09 16:09:12+0000 <dachary> I'm in 2011-06-09 16:09:21+0000 * dachary reading the page 2011-06-09 16:09:42+0000 <dachary> I clicked on "check the stories I'm playing" 2011-06-09 16:10:11+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: blanchard: what are your reactions when you imagine yourself as a new player in front of this? 2011-06-09 16:10:28+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it says Among this 7 cards 2011-06-09 16:10:31+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: and? 2011-06-09 16:10:39+0000 <dachary> it should be Among these 6 cards 2011-06-09 16:10:47+0000 <antoviaque> ah, good catch :D 2011-06-09 16:11:07+0000 <dachary> what is the story ? 2011-06-09 16:11:27+0000 <blanchard> i don't understand the screen suddenly changed what happened ? 2011-06-09 16:11:42+0000 <rogerio> I choose a card right now, I'll vote now 2011-06-09 16:11:44+0000 <antoviaque> the story is something that one of the players (me here) chose for this game 2011-06-09 16:11:53+0000 <antoviaque> I also chose a card based on that sentence 2011-06-09 16:12:31+0000 <rogerio> I voted 2011-06-09 16:12:40+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: we moved to the second stage of the game - now you are trying to find out, among the cards each of the players chose for this game, which one I chose 2011-06-09 16:13:10+0000 * dachary has a blank screen 2011-06-09 16:13:14+0000 <blanchard> ah ok 2011-06-09 16:13:31+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ah, good bug catcher apparently ;p 2011-06-09 16:13:40+0000 <romulo> im back 2011-06-09 16:13:46+0000 <antoviaque> re romulo : ) 2011-06-09 16:13:57+0000 <dachary> I'm out of the game 2011-06-09 16:14:01+0000 <blanchard> but i did not understand that we had moved. I just saw some new cards and did not undrstand what happened. 2011-06-09 16:14:08+0000 <antoviaque> I let you read the backlog until the next game, let me know if you have questions : ) 2011-06-09 16:14:14+0000 <rogerio> I'm waiting for the result 2011-06-09 16:14:24+0000 <dachary> I picked and card, canceled, picked another, canceled, pick another, confirm => blank screen 2011-06-09 16:14:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yep, that's an issue 2011-06-09 16:14:30+0000 <dachary> when I go to lobby, there is nothing 2011-06-09 16:14:42+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: I got error message alert: Bad gateway! 2011-06-09 16:14:58+0000 <antoviaque> wow, lots of bugs :/ 2011-06-09 16:15:56+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio dachary: in a normal playtest I would keep track of those bugs and take screenshots to enter tickets, but if here you can create the tickets yourselves, that would be great :P 2011-06-09 16:16:03+0000 <rogerio> maybe problems here in my network, I don't know 2011-06-09 16:16:07+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's not a bug 2011-06-09 16:16:09+0000 <dachary> no_room : UserWarning('player 36 cannot join game 159 because the 6 players limit is reached',) 2011-06-09 16:16:45+0000 <rogerio> who is the player 36? 2011-06-09 16:16:47+0000 <rogerio> :) 2011-06-09 16:17:04+0000 <blanchard> 6 players ? but i only saw 3 cards when i voted, why is that 2011-06-09 16:17:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-06-09 16:17:19+0000 <antoviaque> let's leave this aside : ) 2011-06-09 16:17:25+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I create another game 2011-06-09 16:17:39+0000 <rogerio> "Bad Gateway" again 2011-06-09 16:17:43+0000 <rogerio> I got the screenshot 2011-06-09 16:18:07+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=160&; 2011-06-09 16:18:11+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: thx! 2011-06-09 16:18:18+0000 <rogerio> yes, I saw only 3 cards as well 2011-06-09 16:20:01+0000 * dachary clicking everywhere like a newbie 2011-06-09 16:20:02+0000 <antoviaque> ok, any reactions? 2011-06-09 16:20:11+0000 <antoviaque> or questions? 2011-06-09 16:20:17+0000 <dachary> all when well at this point 2011-06-09 16:20:19+0000 <dachary> again 2011-06-09 16:20:20+0000 <dachary> more 2011-06-09 16:20:21+0000 <dachary> pliz 2011-06-09 16:20:26+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-06-09 16:20:30+0000 <rogerio> wait!! I didnt played! 2011-06-09 16:20:34+0000 <blanchard> blanchard: is lost on th result screen as expected 2011-06-09 16:20:40+0000 <rogerio> the is over? 2011-06-09 16:20:46+0000 <blanchard> ahhh but there is a 'why' button !!! 2011-06-09 16:20:48+0000 <rogerio> the game is over? 2011-06-09 16:20:50+0000 <blanchard> coooooool 2011-06-09 16:20:51+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: yep, but let's do another one : ) 2011-06-09 16:20:54+0000 <antoviaque> who want to try to create a game? 2011-06-09 16:20:59+0000 <rogerio> ok, sorry 2011-06-09 16:21:03+0000 <blanchard> sure 2011-06-09 16:21:11+0000 <rogerio> maybe I am too slow 2011-06-09 16:21:12+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: np, thanks for the bug report : ) 2011-06-09 16:21:39+0000 <dachary> I typed a lot of dum things in the invitation box when I created a game 2011-06-09 16:21:46+0000 <blanchard> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=162 2011-06-09 16:21:48+0000 <dachary> and it says "Internal server error" 2011-06-09 16:22:09+0000 <dachary> (because of repeated names) 2011-06-09 16:22:32+0000 <dachary> the cards are too low on the screen 2011-06-09 16:22:37+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: uh, another good bug : ) 2011-06-09 16:23:01+0000 <dachary> the screen flickers sometimes why is that ? 2011-06-09 16:23:13+0000 <dachary> (it is because another player acted and the game redisplays) 2011-06-09 16:23:24+0000 <rogerio> voted! 2011-06-09 16:23:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: how is it? did you understood how it works? 2011-06-09 16:23:56+0000 <antoviaque> voted too :p 2011-06-09 16:24:03+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah! 2011-06-09 16:24:04+0000 <dachary> I clicked on agpl.txt how do I go back ? 2011-06-09 16:24:17+0000 <blanchard> it's easier as an author once i've played as a player before 2011-06-09 16:24:17+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: you do a pretty good job as a dumb player ;p 2011-06-09 16:24:27+0000 <blanchard> but step 4 is confusing 2011-06-09 16:24:27+0000 <rogerio> everybody won 2011-06-09 16:24:34+0000 <dachary> I click the back button and I see an alert with "game_id=['162']" does not exist 2011-06-09 16:24:38+0000 <antoviaque> except david :p 2011-06-09 16:24:39+0000 <blanchard> not me rogerio :( 2011-06-09 16:24:50+0000 <rogerio> hahahhahah 2011-06-09 16:25:15+0000 <dachary> who lost ? 2011-06-09 16:25:26+0000 <rogerio> blanchard 2011-06-09 16:25:28+0000 <rogerio> ehehehhe 2011-06-09 16:25:39+0000 <blanchard> step 4 : i did not understand why there were cards with your names but showing the back 2011-06-09 16:25:45+0000 <rogerio> he chose the card that everybody voted 2011-06-09 16:25:53+0000 <blanchard> and then suddenly i could see the front of the card 2011-06-09 16:26:01+0000 <dachary> there is a pointer button when I go over the cards in the result board, why is that ? 2011-06-09 16:26:11+0000 <blanchard> a bit disturbing this step 4 as author 2011-06-09 16:26:11+0000 <antoviaque> ok, dachary, rogerio, you want to create a game each? 2011-06-09 16:26:18+0000 <dachary> yesyeyeyeyeys 2011-06-09 16:26:21+0000 <rogerio> :) 2011-06-09 16:26:23+0000 <rogerio> great 2011-06-09 16:26:35+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: are you still there? 2011-06-09 16:26:36+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=161&; 2011-06-09 16:26:51+0000 <antoviaque> raaaaah 2011-06-09 16:26:52+0000 <dachary> I see the back of a card 2011-06-09 16:26:53+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahaha 2011-06-09 16:27:12+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: i know which card it is :p 2011-06-09 16:27:28+0000 <dachary> why do I see the back of a card ? 2011-06-09 16:27:33+0000 <dachary> I see the back of a card 2011-06-09 16:27:39+0000 <dachary> under the name of some players 2011-06-09 16:27:47+0000 <dachary> (because they did not pick cards moron me) 2011-06-09 16:27:55+0000 <romulo> im still here 2011-06-09 16:27:56+0000 <antoviaque> it's the cards each of the players have chosen for your sentence 2011-06-09 16:28:07+0000 <rogerio> ahahahaahhah 2011-06-09 16:28:19+0000 <antoviaque> and the back of cards show the number of extra players that can still chose a card 2011-06-09 16:28:43+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: did you see the links to the games? 2011-06-09 16:28:52+0000 <antoviaque> and the principle of this? 2011-06-09 16:29:07+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: http://cardstori.es/?game_id=161&; 2011-06-09 16:29:08+0000 <dachary> the game is not moving what's going on ? 2011-06-09 16:29:31+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: you're waiting to have enough players to be able to move to the vote 2011-06-09 16:29:42+0000 <rogerio> Bad Gateway again :( 2011-06-09 16:29:51+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: :/ 2011-06-09 16:30:06+0000 <antoviaque> you have a firewall/proxy where you are? 2011-06-09 16:30:09+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, principle? what you refer to? 2011-06-09 16:30:30+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: of the current playtest : ) 2011-06-09 16:30:31+0000 <dachary> rogerio: if you can activate firebug and give me the content of the request, that would be most helpful 2011-06-09 16:30:33+0000 <romulo> "what the fuck my beard is so gross it makes me want to puke my guts" I LOL'D 2011-06-09 16:30:44+0000 <dachary> LOLOLOL 2011-06-09 16:30:44+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: did you read the backlog? 2011-06-09 16:30:50+0000 <rogerio> ok 2011-06-09 16:30:50+0000 <dachary> BACKLOL 2011-06-09 16:30:51+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: lol ;p 2011-06-09 16:30:52+0000 <dachary> LOL 2011-06-09 16:30:56+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i did 2011-06-09 16:31:00+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: ok : ) 2011-06-09 16:31:17+0000 <dachary> I clicked go to vote 2011-06-09 16:31:18+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: just making sure because I wasn't seen you in the games or reacting - glad all is fine : ) 2011-06-09 16:31:28+0000 <dachary> (on purpose although romulo did not chose a card yet) 2011-06-09 16:31:32+0000 <blanchard> hmmm 2011-06-09 16:31:45+0000 <blanchard> vote is extremely difficult to find dachary's card 2011-06-09 16:31:52+0000 <rogerio> hahahahahahahhha 2011-06-09 16:32:02+0000 <romulo> damn, my game is loading forever 2011-06-09 16:32:04+0000 <rogerio> very hard to find 2011-06-09 16:32:10+0000 <dachary> there are no decorations in the author view of the voting phase 2011-06-09 16:32:16+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: ;p 2011-06-09 16:32:31+0000 <dachary> what if I never click "Next" to avoid defeat ? 2011-06-09 16:32:47+0000 <romulo> loading forever :( 2011-06-09 16:32:54+0000 <romulo> F5 incoming 2011-06-09 16:32:57+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: good one - then you would not lose, true 2011-06-09 16:33:27+0000 <rogerio> again 2011-06-09 16:33:30+0000 <rogerio> bad gateway 2011-06-09 16:33:38+0000 <rogerio> <HTML><TITLE>502 Bad Gateway</TITLE> <H1>502 Bad Gateway</H1> The gateway received an invalid HTTP response or unexpected disconnect from the original server</HTML> 2011-06-09 16:33:47+0000 <dachary> rogerio: thanks 2011-06-09 16:33:57+0000 <rogerio> Request URL:http://cardstori.es/cardstories/resource?action=poll&modified=1307637086408&player_id=rogerhil%40gmail.com&game_id=161 Request Method:GET Status Code:502 Bad Gateway Request Headers Accept:application/json, text/javascript, */*; q=0.01 Accept-Charset:ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3 Accept-Encoding:gzip,deflate,sdch Accept-Language:pt-BR,pt;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.6,en;q=0.4 Cookie:CARDSTORIES_ID=rogerhil%2540gmail.com Host:cardstori.es Proxy-Connection: 2011-06-09 16:34:16+0000 <romulo> after i voted the card, nothing happened 2011-06-09 16:34:19+0000 <romulo> im stuck on loading 2011-06-09 16:34:32+0000 <rogerio> I'll report more detailed this error 2011-06-09 16:34:32+0000 <dachary> romulo: that's because you've been kicked out of the game 2011-06-09 16:34:39+0000 <romulo> sweet :D 2011-06-09 16:34:42+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: I think dachary didn't publish the results yet 2011-06-09 16:34:45+0000 <dachary> romulo: i did it on purpose to see how it goes in this case 2011-06-09 16:34:51+0000 <romulo> dachary, ok 2011-06-09 16:34:55+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I won't publish the results because I lost 2011-06-09 16:34:59+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahah 2011-06-09 16:35:01+0000 <romulo> hahaha 2011-06-09 16:35:02+0000 <antoviaque> GRRRR!! 2011-06-09 16:35:08+0000 <dachary> it will publish itself in a month from now 2011-06-09 16:35:11+0000 <dachary> be patient 2011-06-09 16:35:21+0000 <romulo> lol 2011-06-09 16:35:22+0000 <dachary> there is no sense in rushing humilation 2011-06-09 16:35:27+0000 <blanchard> dachary: you're giving back the lolypop if you continue with this behaviour 2011-06-09 16:35:30+0000 <antoviaque> You're VERY good at being the pain in the ass player :p 2011-06-09 16:35:37+0000 <dachary> LOL 2011-06-09 16:36:13+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: while we wait one month for dachary to publish the results ;p do you want to create a game too? 2011-06-09 16:36:17+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: you too? 2011-06-09 16:36:24+0000 <rogerio> hahahahaah 2011-06-09 16:36:26+0000 <rogerio> yes 2011-06-09 16:36:44+0000 <romulo> sure 2011-06-09 16:36:59+0000 laurent__ (laurent__) is now online 2011-06-09 16:37:05+0000 <antoviaque> hi laurent__ : ) 2011-06-09 16:37:07+0000 <laurent__> Hi 2011-06-09 16:37:09+0000 <dachary> back to menu does not work in "write a sentence" 2011-06-09 16:37:17+0000 <laurent__> you've started the test ? 2011-06-09 16:37:20+0000 <antoviaque> we're doing a "fake" playtest, to prepare ourselves ;p 2011-06-09 16:37:23+0000 <antoviaque> yep! 2011-06-09 16:37:31+0000 <antoviaque> you can join now though, it's ok : ) 2011-06-09 16:37:38+0000 <laurent__> ok cool 2011-06-09 16:37:47+0000 * dachary clicks on SOLO 2011-06-09 16:37:49+0000 <laurent__> quick link pls :) 2011-06-09 16:37:56+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: this is one ugly button 2011-06-09 16:38:40+0000 <antoviaque> (06:02:05 PM) antoviaque: so since we all know the game inside out, this will be very different conditions than a "real" playtest 2011-06-09 16:38:40+0000 <antoviaque> (06:02:42 PM) antoviaque: but the idea is to try to put ourselves in the skin of a new player, and see if the tools for the playtest are good 2011-06-09 16:38:40+0000 <antoviaque> (06:02:49 PM) dachary: the idea is to fake a real playtest, right ? 2011-06-09 16:38:40+0000 <antoviaque> (06:02:54 PM) antoviaque: yep 2011-06-09 16:38:40+0000 <antoviaque> (06:03:56 PM) antoviaque: then (and it's likely to be the longest part here) we'll try to fill out the form for players 2011-06-09 16:38:41+0000 <antoviaque> (06:04:31 PM) antoviaque: dachary: wait until you have the game in front of you ;p 2011-06-09 16:38:41+0000 <antoviaque> (06:05:01 PM) antoviaque: (I play the organiser - basically I don't explain, I let the game explain himself, but I answer questions when they arise) 2011-06-09 16:38:41+0000 <antoviaque> (06:05:17 PM) antoviaque: dachary: it will be at the end 2011-06-09 16:38:42+0000 <antoviaque> (06:05:29 PM) antoviaque: ah! also - the difference is that a real playtest is better in the same room 2011-06-09 16:38:42+0000 <antoviaque> (06:05:36 PM) antoviaque: to see how the players react 2011-06-09 16:38:43+0000 <antoviaque> (06:06:02 PM) antoviaque: and computers would ideally have screen recording setup 2011-06-09 16:38:43+0000 <antoviaque> (06:06:13 PM) antoviaque: to keep it on file and go back to it afterwards 2011-06-09 16:38:44+0000 <antoviaque> (06:06:23 PM) antoviaque: but here since we know the game, there would be little point 2011-06-09 16:38:51+0000 <romulo> ugh, i can create a new game 2011-06-09 16:38:55+0000 <romulo> cant* 2011-06-09 16:39:12+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: urls are coming, romulo and rogerio are trying to create a game ;p 2011-06-09 16:39:23+0000 <blanchard> hi laurent__ :) 2011-06-09 16:39:25+0000 <rogerio> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=167&; 2011-06-09 16:39:31+0000 <romulo> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=165&; 2011-06-09 16:39:32+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: hi :) 2011-06-09 16:39:52+0000 <laurent__> rogerio or romulo ? 2011-06-09 16:40:01+0000 <antoviaque> both : ) 2011-06-09 16:40:06+0000 <laurent__> to join ? 2011-06-09 16:40:10+0000 <laurent__> oki 2011-06-09 16:40:13+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-09 16:40:32+0000 <rogerio> 10 eyes in binary is 2 2011-06-09 16:40:36+0000 <rogerio> :) 2011-06-09 16:41:00+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-06-09 16:41:03+0000 <dachary> (it is unsure what happens if a player is in two games and the one not displayed changes state) 2011-06-09 16:41:20+0000 <blanchard> newbie player : when multiple games at the same time, i'm lost in the lobby 2011-06-09 16:41:28+0000 * dachary goes back to the lobby to check the game states 2011-06-09 16:41:40+0000 <blanchard> looking at lobby and not knowing what action is required from me 2011-06-09 16:41:41+0000 <romulo> can i advance to the vote phase? 2011-06-09 16:41:46+0000 <rogerio> It's taking long time to load here 2011-06-09 16:42:01+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: for me it's good, but don't know who picked a card : ) 2011-06-09 16:42:34+0000 <laurent__> i 've picked a card but nothing happened after 2011-06-09 16:42:41+0000 <blanchard> who is the 'i have 10 eyes' author ? 2011-06-09 16:42:42+0000 <romulo> internal server error when picking one of the rogeri's card 2011-06-09 16:42:50+0000 <dachary> wow 2011-06-09 16:42:59+0000 <blanchard> i'ms stuck at the vote phase, internal server error 2011-06-09 16:43:11+0000 <antoviaque> wow, me I have a weird complete screen instead of the vote 2011-06-09 16:43:16+0000 <romulo> :D 2011-06-09 16:43:20+0000 <dachary> I have the traceback 2011-06-09 16:43:22+0000 <romulo> everything went wrong :( 2011-06-09 16:43:34+0000 <antoviaque> at least it would have been useful to see that we need to debug a bit before putting players in front ;p 2011-06-09 16:43:44+0000 <laurent__> ok i must wait the others vote ( step 4 ) 2011-06-09 16:43:46+0000 <antoviaque> take screenshots of everything and create tickets 2011-06-09 16:44:05+0000 <antoviaque> this way we'll prioritise it for the days to come 2011-06-09 16:44:16+0000 <rogerio> yes 2011-06-09 16:44:59+0000 <romulo> dachary, http://pastie.org/2043546 2011-06-09 16:45:03+0000 <laurent__> for me no problem but a long wait 2011-06-09 16:45:07+0000 <romulo> dachary, internal server error when picking a card from rogerio 2011-06-09 16:45:38+0000 <rogerio> long time trying to enter in ---> http://cardstori.es/?game_id=165&; 2011-06-09 16:45:52+0000 <rogerio> romulo's game 2011-06-09 16:46:22+0000 <romulo> rogerio, my game is on the vote phase 2011-06-09 16:46:28+0000 <romulo> rogerio, thats why you can't come in 2011-06-09 16:46:44+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/101 2011-06-09 16:46:58+0000 <antoviaque> when you're finished entering the tickets, let's move to the survey 2011-06-09 16:47:16+0000 <rogerio> ok, but I think taking a long time in this case is not a good thing 2011-06-09 16:47:28+0000 <romulo> rogerio, i dont think thats implemented. 2011-06-09 16:47:28+0000 <rogerio> maybe show some message 2011-06-09 16:47:31+0000 <antoviaque> try to put yourself in the skin of a newcomer again and fill this: http://farsides.com/stats/survey/index.php?sid=47236&newtest=Y&lang=en 2011-06-09 16:47:35+0000 <laurent__> i'm waiting for the vote for the game id=165& 2011-06-09 16:47:40+0000 <romulo> rogerio, probably we need to put something to warn players game is already in progress 2011-06-09 16:47:46+0000 <rogerio> hmm, yes, I also guess no 2011-06-09 16:48:00+0000 <romulo> i dont understand you :P 2011-06-09 16:48:08+0000 <rogerio> hahahah 2011-06-09 16:48:13+0000 <rogerio> I'm sorry 2011-06-09 16:48:29+0000 <romulo> cruzel and dummy are still left to vote 2011-06-09 16:48:30+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: la partie est encore en cours ? 2011-06-09 16:48:31+0000 <romulo> on my game 2011-06-09 16:48:44+0000 <romulo> eve_, translate: la partie est encore en cours 2011-06-09 16:48:44+0000 <eve> romulo: What? 2011-06-09 16:48:49+0000 <romulo> T_T 2011-06-09 16:48:52+0000 <rogerio> I would like to say I also think is not implemented yet :) 2011-06-09 16:48:53+0000 <laurent__> waiting for einstein ;) 2011-06-09 16:49:02+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate la partie est encore en cours 2011-06-09 16:49:02+0000 <eve> antoviaque: the game is still being 2011-06-09 16:49:03+0000 <blanchard> laurent__: partie en cours = game still on, yes it is 2011-06-09 16:49:16+0000 <blanchard> the 165 2011-06-09 16:49:22+0000 <romulo> =] 2011-06-09 16:49:40+0000 <blanchard> come on 165, I want to see the results !! :) 2011-06-09 16:49:42+0000 <laurent__> oh sorry for private french, and ok for the einstein party... voting phase 2011-06-09 16:49:46+0000 <romulo> waiting for [email protected] 2011-06-09 16:49:51+0000 <blanchard> who is it ? romulo ? 2011-06-09 16:49:56+0000 <blanchard> ah ok rom :) 2011-06-09 16:50:00+0000 <blanchard> romulo: 2011-06-09 16:50:03+0000 <romulo> blanchard, im abra185 =P 2011-06-09 16:50:14+0000 <romulo> next time will my use my own email 2011-06-09 16:50:22+0000 <blanchard> :) 2011-06-09 16:50:31+0000 <antoviaque> everyone got the survey url to fill? 2011-06-09 16:50:37+0000 <blanchard> dachary: mister dummy, come and vote for the 165 2011-06-09 16:50:41+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/stats/survey/index.php?sid=47236&newtest=Y&lang=en 2011-06-09 16:50:43+0000 <laurent__> héhé 2011-06-09 16:51:07+0000 <laurent__> i have a lot of stuff for deborah ;P 2011-06-09 16:51:09+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-09 16:51:23+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, should i put you as the organizer of the playtest? 2011-06-09 16:51:28+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-06-09 16:51:34+0000 <dachary> done 2011-06-09 16:51:51+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: the game support "anim" ? ping pong between two sprite for example ? 2011-06-09 16:52:00+0000 <antoviaque> if you have remarks about the survey don't hesitate btw - one of the goals of this session is to validate it 2011-06-09 16:52:14+0000 <romulo> im horrible 2011-06-09 16:52:18+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: not now, but it's possible yep 2011-06-09 16:52:37+0000 <laurent__> of course 2011-06-09 16:52:47+0000 <laurent__> but where is the card of the sentence ? 2011-06-09 16:53:02+0000 <dachary> I have to go soon. 2011-06-09 16:53:09+0000 <dachary> I'll fill the survey 2011-06-09 16:53:21+0000 <dachary> that was LOL fun thanks ! /me hugs 2011-06-09 16:53:34+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: not sure what you mean - on which screen? 2011-06-09 16:53:35+0000 <laurent__> in the final step 2011-06-09 16:53:46+0000 <dachary> *Name of the organizer of this playtest 2011-06-09 16:53:47+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: trying to escape answering the survey, ahah! 2011-06-09 16:53:48+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ^ 2011-06-09 16:53:53+0000 <antoviaque> me 2011-06-09 16:54:00+0000 <laurent__> last step, complete 2011-06-09 16:54:03+0000 <dachary> antoviaque ? 2011-06-09 16:54:19+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: the card chosen by the author is the one with the green boder 2011-06-09 16:54:21+0000 <antoviaque> border 2011-06-09 16:54:47+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: ok not enough lisible so ;) 2011-06-09 16:54:59+0000 <laurent__> ant 2011-06-09 16:55:10+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: yep : ) 2011-06-09 16:55:21+0000 <laurent__> we must have more "highlight" or small "animation" 2011-06-09 16:55:26+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: would you mind If I leave a little bit? 2011-06-09 16:55:28+0000 <blanchard> laurent__: unfortunately i think tartarugafeliz is away currently 2011-06-09 16:55:38+0000 <rogerio> people are calling me here 2011-06-09 16:55:43+0000 <blanchard> she's not back antoviaque correct ? 2011-06-09 16:55:43+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: nope it's ok 2011-06-09 16:55:47+0000 <laurent__> and for my poor eyes the names are very small 2011-06-09 16:55:52+0000 <antoviaque> but remember to fill the survey today : ) 2011-06-09 16:56:02+0000 <antoviaque> and send me your comments about it 2011-06-09 16:56:11+0000 <antoviaque> if you have some 2011-06-09 16:56:17+0000 <rogerio> thanks 2011-06-09 16:56:18+0000 <antoviaque> this way I'll change it 2011-06-09 16:56:21+0000 <laurent__> ant 2011-06-09 16:56:58+0000 <laurent__> ok, i'll prepare feedback, where can i post them for deborah ( sorry, farsides is not clear yet for me ) 2011-06-09 16:58:07+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: for now you can simply put them in a ticket http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues/new 2011-06-09 16:58:33+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: and if you fill the survey (trying to remember your first impressions) it would be helpful too : ) 2011-06-09 16:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/stats/survey/index.php?sid=47236&newtest=Y&lang=en 2011-06-09 16:59:10+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: in the survey the "Where do you live" choice does not use keyboard selector 2011-06-09 16:59:24+0000 <dachary> done with the survey 2011-06-09 16:59:52+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: speedy gonzales : ) 2011-06-09 16:59:59+0000 <dachary> Farewell my friends, may the gods have mercy on your souls. (Citation of Thor in the film Thor, about the story of Thor) 2011-06-09 17:00:20+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: won't be able to do much about this - probably a bug report for limesurvey : ) 2011-06-09 17:00:29+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: arg, i have not account ( allways connected with facebook ) so i can use the link of xavier, a quick link to make my ccount ? 2011-06-09 17:01:01+0000 <blanchard> farewell dachary ! 2011-06-09 17:02:10+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, survey filled 2011-06-09 17:02:14+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: on the tracker you have a link on the top right 2011-06-09 17:02:18+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: thanks : ) 2011-06-09 17:02:22+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, yw, i gotta go 2011-06-09 17:02:24+0000 <romulo> brb soon 2011-06-09 17:02:28+0000 <laurent__> ok 2011-06-09 17:02:51+0000 <antoviaque> thanks everyone : ) 2011-06-09 17:03:32+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: btw, did you see my email about sorting out dates with tartaruga? 2011-06-09 17:04:44+0000 <laurent__> yes but i thought she will be here to exchange and find a date together 2011-06-09 17:04:48+0000 <laurent__> ant 2011-06-09 17:05:06+0000 <laurent__> so i'll make a feedback in first 2011-06-09 17:05:42+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: ok, perfect : ) 2011-06-09 17:05:44+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-06-09 17:05:48+0000 <laurent__> but i wanna put "visual example" and i don't know where put them 2011-06-09 17:06:18+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: you mean attach a screenshot or a drawing? 2011-06-09 17:06:44+0000 * antoviaque is entering tickets based on things said in the chat, and filling the organizer form 2011-06-09 17:09:07+0000 <laurent__> ant antoviaque yes few i think 2011-06-09 17:09:07+0000 <eve> laurent__: Huh? 2011-06-09 17:09:30+0000 <laurent__> eve_: huh what ;) 2011-06-09 17:09:30+0000 <eve> laurent__: Sorry... 2011-06-09 17:09:43+0000 <laurent__> eve_: no problem ;) 2011-06-09 17:09:43+0000 <eve> laurent__: Excuse me? 2011-06-09 17:09:49+0000 <blanchard> why is eve_ saying this to laurent__ ? :) 2011-06-09 17:09:57+0000 <laurent__> héhé 2011-06-09 17:10:04+0000 <antoviaque> you have a section named "Files" in the new ticket form 2011-06-09 17:10:11+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: chiant l'inscription 2011-06-09 17:10:20+0000 <blanchard> why ? 2011-06-09 17:10:31+0000 <antoviaque> If you click "Choose file" and "Add another file" you can attach images 2011-06-09 17:10:47+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: 50 words for bio and the special words at the end, is not lisible 2011-06-09 17:10:48+0000 <antoviaque> Best is to create one for each issue btw 2011-06-09 17:10:56+0000 <laurent__> ant 2011-06-09 17:11:08+0000 <laurent__> ok i'll try it later :) 2011-06-09 17:11:14+0000 <blanchard> laurent__: what ? 2011-06-09 17:11:22+0000 <blanchard> bio ? 2011-06-09 17:11:33+0000 <blanchard> where is the bio, i'm lost :) 2011-06-09 17:11:44+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: Your biography must be at least 50 words long. 2011-06-09 17:11:52+0000 <blanchard> where ? 2011-06-09 17:12:09+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: http://farsides.com/wiki/Special:RequestAccount 2011-06-09 17:12:31+0000 <blanchard> oh my god you always go back to this wiki :p 2011-06-09 17:12:48+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-09 17:13:02+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: snifff where is the right entrance ? 2011-06-09 17:13:17+0000 <blanchard> the tickets : http://tickets.farsides.com/account/register 2011-06-09 17:13:20+0000 <blanchard> :) 2011-06-09 17:14:22+0000 <blanchard> and then you can add a ticket there : http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues/new 2011-06-09 17:14:41+0000 <blanchard> and add files as xavier was explaining 2011-06-09 17:15:31+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: ah more simple, it's ok , i 'll try the xavier link now to see :) 2011-06-09 17:22:22+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i did the survey as if i discovered. It's a good template i think 2011-06-09 17:23:16+0000 <laurent__> xan 2011-06-09 17:23:35+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: cool : ) 2011-06-09 17:23:37+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: i have made a #109 2011-06-09 17:24:26+0000 <antoviaque> seen - perfect, thanks : ) 2011-06-09 17:24:36+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: feature, not bug, can u verify if i fill correctly the differents parameters ? and sorry for my spanish english ;/ 2011-06-09 17:24:46+0000 <antoviaque> yep I will : ) 2011-06-09 17:24:59+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: ok :) 2011-06-09 17:25:00+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: btw before working on stuff, we'll need to review the feedback we've got so far 2011-06-09 17:25:10+0000 <antoviaque> with tartarugafeliz 2011-06-09 17:25:21+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: of course 2011-06-09 17:25:31+0000 <antoviaque> since there are some point that have been identified already, would be good to have your opinion on those 2011-06-09 17:25:46+0000 <antoviaque> actually you can read most of it there: 2011-06-09 17:25:55+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: give me the links 2011-06-09 17:26:19+0000 <antoviaque> http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=2 => tickets in "Graphic design" with priorities high & normal 2011-06-09 17:26:32+0000 * blanchard back in 10mn 2011-06-09 17:27:11+0000 <blanchard> laurent__: bye if i don't see you. Try to drop a message on buddypress for Deb to find some time together next week 2011-06-09 17:27:12+0000 <antoviaque> and there are logs of playtests with new players in the "Clarify the interface" ticket 2011-06-09 17:27:37+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: 2011-06-09 17:27:48+0000 <laurent__> blanchard: ok i'll try ;) 2011-06-09 17:28:00+0000 <antoviaque> a possible way of solving the (large) issue of accessibility is mentioned in the ticket "Center the design around a real board" 2011-06-09 17:28:40+0000 <antoviaque> I'll let you read, tell me what you think of all those elements 2011-06-09 17:28:52+0000 <antoviaque> (when you can/have the time of course) 2011-06-09 17:29:17+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-09 17:30:48+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: ok i have a quick read, so i'm agree with 2011-06-09 17:31:17+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: but i think that i must make some visual example to help deborah 2011-06-09 17:31:33+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: as you feel it's best! 2011-06-09 17:32:03+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: an small draw better than a lot of words ;) 2011-06-09 17:32:12+0000 <antoviaque> agreed : ) 2011-06-09 17:32:40+0000 <antoviaque> just keep in mind that if we try out the board, it could change the interface quite dramatically 2011-06-09 17:40:36+0000 <laurent__> ant 2011-06-09 17:41:00+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: try out ? just idea of graphics solutions 2011-06-09 17:41:49+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: on the actual deborah board 2011-06-09 17:42:35+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: i must go, we'll see later with a first example ;) 2011-06-09 17:42:36+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: I mean if we change the approach of the design and do it like a "real" table, it will change the interface a lot 2011-06-09 17:42:53+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: cf http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/94 2011-06-09 17:43:13+0000 <antoviaque> look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrG7_KMcvQ to see what I mean 2011-06-09 17:43:21+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: see you then : ) 2011-06-09 17:43:25+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: oh, not my way ;) 2011-06-09 17:43:37+0000 <antoviaque> not your way? 2011-06-09 17:43:46+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: the real table 2011-06-09 17:43:52+0000 <laurent__> the real world 2011-06-09 17:43:56+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate tu peux le dire en francais si tu demandes a eve de traduire : ) 2011-06-09 17:43:56+0000 <eve> antoviaque: You can say it in french if you ask Eve to bring:) 2011-06-09 17:44:19+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: me ? 2011-06-09 17:44:23+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-06-09 17:44:35+0000 <antoviaque> you mean that you prefer not to use a real table? 2011-06-09 17:45:25+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: je ne veux rien modifier de particulier, encore moins changer les choix visuels actuels, juste appuyer sur tel ou tel point qui manque de focus ou clareté 2011-06-09 17:45:56+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: to ask eve to translate, put "eve_: translate" in front of your sentence in french : ) 2011-06-09 17:46:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate antoviaque: je ne veux rien modifier de particulier, encore moins changer les choix visuels actuels, juste appuyer sur tel ou tel point qui manque de focus ou clareté 2011-06-09 17:46:06+0000 <eve> antoviaque: antoviaque: I do not want to change anything special, let alone change the current visual selection, just press a particular point that lack of focus or clarity 2011-06-09 17:46:13+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: en gros, je trouve que ça marche bien d'un point de vue style, il faut juste mettre en avant des éléments particulier à des moments spécifiques 2011-06-09 17:46:31+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: yep, the style is amazing 2011-06-09 17:46:40+0000 <antoviaque> the issue is accessibility though 2011-06-09 17:46:43+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: yes 2011-06-09 17:47:01+0000 <antoviaque> to say it bluntly, nobody understands anything without askin a lot of questions 2011-06-09 17:47:15+0000 <antoviaque> players are completely lost about what is happening 2011-06-09 17:47:27+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: the eyes of the players must be more oriented on the board 2011-06-09 17:47:43+0000 <antoviaque> yep, true 2011-06-09 17:47:57+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: just that i think 2011-06-09 17:48:19+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: for the moment all the element are on the same level of importance 2011-06-09 17:48:43+0000 <antoviaque> true, but read the tickets, especially the logs of playtests - it goes deeper than this 2011-06-09 17:48:52+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: and nothing "move" to help us 2011-06-09 17:49:40+0000 <antoviaque> agreed too 2011-06-09 17:49:49+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: ok, give me back the link to read logs of playtests 2011-06-09 17:49:55+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-06-09 17:50:03+0000 <laurent__> ant ok :) 2011-06-09 17:50:03+0000 <eve> laurent__: Huh? 2011-06-09 17:50:19+0000 <laurent__> eve_: huh yet ? ;) 2011-06-09 17:50:19+0000 <eve> laurent__: What? 2011-06-09 17:50:29+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/57 2011-06-09 17:51:50+0000 <laurent__> i ripped on tab touch... ant tab to speak with antoviaque :) 2011-06-09 17:52:30+0000 <laurent__> antoviaque: i have noted the link, i'll read it before my feedbacks 2011-06-09 17:52:36+0000 <laurent__> i must go 2011-06-09 17:52:39+0000 <antoviaque> laurent__: ok, thanks : ) 2011-06-09 17:52:41+0000 <laurent__> by 2011-06-09 17:52:43+0000 <laurent__> bye 2011-06-09 17:52:47+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for coming and participating! 2011-06-09 17:52:58+0000 <laurent__> it's a pleasure ;) 2011-06-09 17:53:03+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-09 17:53:07+0000 <laurent__> see u later 2011-06-09 17:53:12+0000 <antoviaque> see you! 2011-06-09 17:54:01+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: end meeting 2011-06-09 17:54:02+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-06-09 17:54:02+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/403593 2011-06-09 18:02:32+0000 <antoviaque> ok, organiser survey done and all tickets from issues mentioned in the chat entered 2011-06-09 18:03:00+0000 <antoviaque> if someone sees something which is not in the list (for bugs, not improvements) => http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=4 2011-06-09 18:04:41+0000 <romulo> je voulu comprendre francais 2011-06-09 18:05:14+0000 <romulo> mais est difficile 2011-06-09 18:05:14+0000 <romulo> =p 2011-06-09 18:05:39+0000 <romulo> but it looks alot like portuguese =P 2011-06-09 18:05:59+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: hehe, yep : ) 2011-06-09 18:06:39+0000 <antoviaque> on my side I find it easier to read portuguese than hearing it - still far from understanding it though ;p 2011-06-09 18:07:01+0000 <romulo> french is harder for me to read 2011-06-09 18:07:17+0000 <romulo> i watched a movie other day, a documentary, all in french 2011-06-09 18:07:20+0000 <romulo> ppl speak too fast 2011-06-09 18:11:40+0000 <romulo> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1068646/ this one 2011-06-09 23:30:36+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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