Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-06-23.
2011-06-23 00:46:18+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 06:09:56+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-06-23 07:34:39+0000 chr15m (chr15m) is now online 2011-06-23 07:34:40+0000 <dachary> morning 2011-06-23 07:34:45+0000 <antoviaque> hi chr15m : ) 2011-06-23 07:34:48+0000 <chr15m> hello 2011-06-23 07:34:56+0000 <antoviaque> hi dachary! 2011-06-23 07:34:59+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-23 07:35:13+0000 <antoviaque> hi tartarugafeliz : ) 2011-06-23 07:35:23+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha, everyone logs in at the same time today ;p 2011-06-23 07:36:36+0000 <antoviaque> how are you today chr15m? 2011-06-23 07:37:13+0000 <dachary> :-0 2011-06-23 07:40:43+0000 <chr15m> i'm very well, how are you? 2011-06-23 07:41:03+0000 <chr15m> (was making afternoon coffee) 2011-06-23 07:41:07+0000 <antoviaque> not bad, drinking the morning coffee : ) 2011-06-23 07:41:12+0000 <chr15m> :) 2011-06-23 07:41:26+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, 3:30pm for you now, right? : ) 2011-06-23 07:41:38+0000 <chr15m> yep 2011-06-23 07:43:01+0000 <antoviaque> I like timezone differences - it's always a bit surreal to be at different times of the day : ) 2011-06-23 07:43:15+0000 <antoviaque> btw congratz on completing your test task 2011-06-23 07:43:37+0000 * dachary browsing the new mockups 2011-06-23 07:44:06+0000 <chr15m> it is a bit surreal. pretty amazing that there are still people who believe the earth is flat! 2011-06-23 07:44:24+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe - who know, maybe they are right ;p 2011-06-23 07:44:57+0000 <chr15m> :] 2011-06-23 07:45:04+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: if you have comments let me know - I have discussed each of them with tartaruga yesterday, but I haven't had a calm look at them yet 2011-06-23 07:45:35+0000 <antoviaque> chr15m: so you wanted to take another task, with the python backend, right? 2011-06-23 07:45:38+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ok :-) 2011-06-23 07:45:46+0000 <chr15m> antoviaque: yep, i am up for that 2011-06-23 07:47:00+0000 <antoviaque> hmmm, in the available tasks I see only one about the backend right now: http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=11 2011-06-23 07:47:23+0000 <chr15m> i don't really mind if it's another front-end task 2011-06-23 07:47:28+0000 <chr15m> whatever suits you 2011-06-23 07:47:56+0000 <antoviaque> try to have a look at this page, and see if there is anything that seems tempting 2011-06-23 07:48:22+0000 <chr15m> ok 2011-06-23 07:49:00+0000 <antoviaque> there are also a number of new tasks coming up, but they are still in the "to specify" queue until dachary gets the time to review them http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=2 2011-06-23 07:51:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: chr15m it's not yet a ticket but this is something we discussed: a plugin that implements a chat server side. It needs to be specified. 2011-06-23 07:52:17+0000 <chr15m> dachary: sounds interesting 2011-06-23 07:53:07+0000 <chr15m> dachary: with the django auth task, is the idea to run django along side the twisted daemon? 2011-06-23 07:53:35+0000 <dachary> yes. 2011-06-23 07:54:06+0000 <antoviaque> there is a ticket for the chat + mockups from deborah http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/162 (but only the high level description, not the tech spec) 2011-06-23 07:54:35+0000 <dachary> very good :-) 2011-06-23 07:54:53+0000 <antoviaque> chr15m: note that arbrandes is already working on the django infrastructure - not sure if he pans to implement the FB auth at the same time or not, at the end 2011-06-23 07:55:04+0000 <antoviaque> s/pan/plans/ 2011-06-23 07:55:06+0000 <chr15m> antoviaque: no problem 2011-06-23 07:55:25+0000 <antoviaque> I think not, but if you take on this task it will be good to discuss with him first 2011-06-23 07:55:54+0000 <antoviaque> chr15m: not necessarily a problem, just the dependency that needs to be taken into account 2011-06-23 07:56:17+0000 <chr15m> antoviaque: ok cool 2011-06-23 08:14:49+0000 <antoviaque> chr15m: see anything tempting? 2011-06-23 08:15:02+0000 <chr15m> I'm trying to decide between the chat and the django one 2011-06-23 08:15:24+0000 <antoviaque> if it helps, probably the most urgent would be the chat 2011-06-23 08:15:38+0000 <chr15m> the chat task is implementing both the front-end and the back-end right? 2011-06-23 08:16:00+0000 <chr15m> i think that's what i should go with 2011-06-23 08:16:01+0000 <antoviaque> in the ticket yep - but maybe dachary had in mind to slice it down 2011-06-23 08:16:11+0000 <chr15m> yep, understood 2011-06-23 08:16:48+0000 <chr15m> i am trying to get some other work finished, so maybe once dachary has a chance to break it down i can take it on? 2011-06-23 08:17:26+0000 <antoviaque> sure - when would be a good time for you? 2011-06-23 08:17:48+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: when do you think you'll be able to look at the chat task tech spec? 2011-06-23 08:18:17+0000 <chr15m> i think i could probably start this task tomorrow afternoon and finish it monday morning again. 2011-06-23 08:18:35+0000 <chr15m> if that fits with dachary's schedule 2011-06-23 08:18:48+0000 <chr15m> well actually it might be a longer than one day task 2011-06-23 08:19:03+0000 <antoviaque> could be yup 2011-06-23 08:20:30+0000 <antoviaque> on my side would be good 2011-06-23 08:21:16+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: chr15m, that's good. I'll work on the specifications of the server side today. 2011-06-23 08:21:30+0000 <antoviaque> sounds perfect 2011-06-23 08:22:17+0000 <antoviaque> chr15m: so we can finish the discussion tomorrow based on dachary's spec 2011-06-23 08:22:26+0000 <antoviaque> what time do you want to meet? 2011-06-23 08:22:28+0000 <chr15m> great 2011-06-23 08:22:31+0000 <chr15m> maybe the same time? 2011-06-23 08:23:27+0000 <antoviaque> yup, perfect for me : ) 2011-06-23 08:23:32+0000 <antoviaque> thanks chr15m 2011-06-23 08:23:50+0000 <chr15m> cool, well i will get back to my other work for now if that's ok 2011-06-23 08:23:55+0000 <chr15m> speak to you tomorrow! 2011-06-23 08:23:58+0000 <antoviaque> no worries - good luck! 2011-06-23 08:26:27+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-06-23 08:27:50+0000 <mtyaka> hello everybody 2011-06-23 08:28:06+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka : ) 2011-06-23 08:28:07+0000 <mtyaka> I started working on the test task 2011-06-23 08:28:15+0000 <antoviaque> ah cool :D 2011-06-23 08:28:46+0000 <mtyaka> I set the ticket for review, with the first changes I made, to get some feedback, whether I approached this correctly 2011-06-23 08:28:54+0000 <mtyaka> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/120 2011-06-23 08:29:40+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/94#note-9 as always, please take it as an amateurish comment ;-) 2011-06-23 08:29:56+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yup, perfect - you've passed it as ready for review, it will appear in dachary's list of reviews to make : ) 2011-06-23 08:30:39+0000 <mtyaka> ok, great 2011-06-23 08:30:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: can the names of the players be not long? :P 2011-06-23 08:30:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahaha 2011-06-23 08:31:10+0000 <mtyaka> I was wondering... do you follow any conventions regarding javascript code formatting? 2011-06-23 08:31:19+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you can of course keep working on it - but at least you should get a discussion started this way 2011-06-23 08:32:05+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: well so far, if it passes jslint, it's good - we haven't written down any formatting rules 2011-06-23 08:32:13+0000 <mtyaka> ok 2011-06-23 08:32:39+0000 <mtyaka> I tried to to keep the style similar to the surrounding code 2011-06-23 08:32:44+0000 <antoviaque> but of course try to stick with the way it's done generally in the code - no one will come after you, but it's more pretty ;p 2011-06-23 08:32:48+0000 <antoviaque> yup, perfect 2011-06-23 08:38:22+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: for "why is the picked card shown face down ?" => it comes from me, the idea is to revert to not showing the cards to the author before they are announced anymore. It avoids having to show the votes while the cards are shuffled (which would be as confusing as the current results board), and it solves your bug of "I'm not going to win, so I don't announce this game!" 2011-06-23 08:38:32+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: you're good ;-) http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/120#note-6 2011-06-23 08:39:47+0000 <mtyaka> Thanks, dachary! 2011-06-23 08:39:49+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ok. 2011-06-23 08:47:55+0000 <antoviaque> going to eat breakfast now, bbl 2011-06-23 09:18:08+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-23 09:31:14+0000 <antoviaque> back 2011-06-23 09:47:47+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-23 09:52:01+0000 <arbrandes> morning, dudes 2011-06-23 09:54:05+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, I see farsides.com is looking much better now. Cool 2011-06-23 10:22:18+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : ) 2011-06-23 10:22:27+0000 <antoviaque> yup, getting better ;p 2011-06-23 10:23:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: if you didn't see it yet, the website should take this skin when fernanda finishes to polish it http://dev.farsides.com/blog/ 2011-06-23 10:24:30+0000 <arbrandes> Ahh, very pleasant... 2011-06-23 10:26:19+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-23 10:26:32+0000 <antoviaque> we'll finally start to have something that looks like a proper website ;p 2011-06-23 10:27:08+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm sorry I missed my deadline again. I got all tangled up with django-registration, I don't know if you read yesterday's log. But that part is over, I'm now integrating with cardstories itself, and I have a couple of questions. 2011-06-23 10:27:44+0000 <antoviaque> I've seen your message from last night yup 2011-06-23 10:28:09+0000 <arbrandes> Currently, twistd servers up the /static part of cardstories. 2011-06-23 10:28:20+0000 <arbrandes> This would be moved into the framework, am I right? 2011-06-23 10:28:28+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-06-23 10:28:46+0000 <antoviaque> and I understand, it's not like if I didn't already run into that kind of issues myself with frameworks ;p 2011-06-23 10:29:26+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks for the vote of confidence, hehehe... once I gave up on django-registration, it was at most a couple of hours to get it working, lol 2011-06-23 10:30:26+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) 2011-06-23 10:30:37+0000 <antoviaque> how much work do you have left on it? 2011-06-23 10:33:52+0000 <arbrandes> Well, now is when I start actually learning cardstories itself, and see how best to integrate. I'm a little insecure about giving a deadline, especially since I missed two already. :/ Can I get back to you on this later today? 2011-06-23 10:34:19+0000 <antoviaque> sure, no problem 2011-06-23 10:34:21+0000 <arbrandes> I don't expect it'll be much more than two days, though. 2011-06-23 10:34:47+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-06-23 10:34:53+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the update 2011-06-23 10:36:31+0000 <arbrandes> For the future, should I be posting status updates to the chat, the ticket, to the code group, or the mailing list? 2011-06-23 10:36:37+0000 <arbrandes> Or all of them? :) 2011-06-23 10:36:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah : ) 2011-06-23 10:37:27+0000 <antoviaque> the chat is good enough for now, but I'm planning to reorganize the way we do daily updates 2011-06-23 10:37:47+0000 <arbrandes> ok, then 2011-06-23 10:38:06+0000 <antoviaque> the idea would be to get closer to the scrum methodology, and do the short daily meeting with everyone who posts his update 2011-06-23 10:38:27+0000 <antoviaque> because right now it's a bit messay that part, and sometimes people don't know what others are working on 2011-06-23 10:40:20+0000 <arbrandes> That's a good idea. It will be hard getting everybody together at the same time, though, with some people on literally the other side of the globe, hehehe 2011-06-23 10:40:48+0000 <antoviaque> yup, that part may be tricky ;p 2011-06-23 10:41:23+0000 <antoviaque> in the worse case we can do 2 meetings, but since it's timeboxed to 15 minutes I have hopes we can find a time that works for everyone : ) 2011-06-23 10:43:19+0000 <arbrandes> It's certainly worth a shot, of course. And yes, it's a short meeting, so it'll probably work. 2011-06-23 10:43:30+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 10:43:43+0000 <arbrandes> <arbrandes> It's certainly worth a shot, of course. And yes, it's a short meeting, so it'll probably work. 2011-06-23 10:43:56+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-23 10:44:15+0000 <antoviaque> my gnome3 panel partially crashed, have to restart - brb : ) 2011-06-23 10:45:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, lol, ok, good luck (I'm with Unity, myself) 2011-06-23 10:46:03+0000 <antoviaque> well gnome3 isn't really mature yet - but I couldn't stand having my linux looking like windows vista ;p 2011-06-23 10:46:27+0000 * antoviaque installing some updates first 2011-06-23 10:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> and actually, even with the instability, i really love gnome3 - once used to the changes it's hard to imagine living without them 2011-06-23 10:48:56+0000 <arbrandes> I haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising 2011-06-23 10:54:21+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-23 10:54:29+0000 <antoviaque> brb, reboot 2011-06-23 11:00:53+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 11:35:26+0000 * antoviaque started to send emails around about the RMLL roundtable 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-06-23 12:06:37+0000 xrogaan_ (xrogaan_) is now online 2011-06-23 12:07:41+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/members/antoviaque/activity/940/ 2011-06-23 12:28:54+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-23 12:29:09+0000 <dachary> back 2011-06-23 13:06:32+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-23 13:10:20+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 13:34:56+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: cool, valentin should be joining us for the RMLL round table : ) 2011-06-23 13:35:45+0000 <antoviaque> he wants to talk about how games can take over Facebook :P 2011-06-23 13:39:39+0000 <dachary> \o/ 2011-06-23 14:09:23+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: arbrandes: mtyaka: tartarugafeliz: everyone: let me know when it would be a good time for you to have our next meeting http://farsides.com/members/antoviaque/activity/941/ 2011-06-23 14:10:59+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: Sunday 4pm GMT+2 is good for me. 2011-06-23 14:12:44+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: cool : ) 2011-06-23 14:13:41+0000 <arbrandes> Good ideas on the post, btw... The "XP" thing specially, hehehe 2011-06-23 14:13:53+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-06-23 14:14:07+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe *always dreamed of earning xp at work* 2011-06-23 14:14:50+0000 <arbrandes> Kind of like "karma" on reddit, or something like it. That will make it immediately apparent for newcomers who are the top contributors. 2011-06-23 14:14:58+0000 <antoviaque> exactly 2011-06-23 14:15:10+0000 <antoviaque> and give a better feeling of the progression too 2011-06-23 14:15:49+0000 <arbrandes> Yes, it would be a very objective measurement of involvement. 2011-06-23 14:16:49+0000 <arbrandes> The key, of course, would be how to tally points, and keeping the game "balanced" ;) 2011-06-23 14:16:57+0000 <antoviaque> yup - that's the tricky part actually, especially given the very different nature of tasks... but maybe we can find objective measures everywhere (like the time spent on a task for example) 2011-06-23 14:17:09+0000 <antoviaque> precisely ;p 2011-06-23 14:17:24+0000 <antoviaque> but a good exercise in itself 2011-06-23 14:17:49+0000 <arbrandes> brb 2011-06-23 14:45:02+0000 <arbrandes> Is the gitorious mirror of cardstories not being updated? 2011-06-23 14:45:26+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ^ 2011-06-23 14:45:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: uh, let me see 2011-06-23 14:46:02+0000 <antoviaque> I pull from cardstori.es so I don't pay attention 2011-06-23 14:46:05+0000 <arbrandes> The last log message is from May 20 2011-06-23 14:46:13+0000 <antoviaque> ah that's not good yup 2011-06-23 14:47:04+0000 <antoviaque> yup - I'll fix this now 2011-06-23 14:47:12+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: thanks for reporting it : ) 2011-06-23 14:47:22+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, Yay, 1XP! lol 2011-06-23 14:48:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah :p 2011-06-23 15:05:20+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-06-23 15:20:37+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, so, since I already cloned the repo on gitorious and locally, I can just git pull from cardstori.es and then push to gitorious? Forgive the git newbness, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around it. 2011-06-23 15:20:37+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: https://gitorious.org/cardstories/cardstories up to date - now with an actual cron to keep it so (hopefully ;p) 2011-06-23 15:20:51+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-06-23 15:21:57+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, no magic command line options involved? Ok then, this is scary... Too good to be true, hehehe 2011-06-23 15:22:34+0000 <antoviaque> to pull you can simply keep the branch remote set to cardstori.es, and add another remote with 'git remote add gitorious git@...', and then 'git push gitorious yourbranch' 2011-06-23 15:23:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, with git everything is complicated - wouldn't be fun otherwise ;p 2011-06-23 15:23:26+0000 * antoviaque thinks linus is borderline crazy 2011-06-23 15:23:44+0000 * arbrandes_ is sure 2011-06-23 15:23:51+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-06-23 15:52:22+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-23 18:33:11+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-06-23 19:36:53+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-23 20:36:58+0000 <dachary> back 2011-06-23 21:09:38+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-23 21:25:10+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/178 could you please change this to accepted ? 2011-06-23 21:32:01+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-06-23 21:32:04+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping 2011-06-23 21:32:14+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-23 21:33:20+0000 <romulo> dachary, ping 2011-06-23 21:49:13+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: done : ) 2011-06-23 21:50:29+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-23 21:50:51+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline 2011-06-23 21:56:32+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
