Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-04.
2011-07-04 00:54:07+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-04 07:19:07+0000 <xrogaan_> hay, i'm really good with xml and python 2011-07-04 07:20:18+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: that's cool :) looking for something to contribute on? :D 2011-07-04 07:21:54+0000 <xrogaan_> yes indeed 2011-07-04 07:22:57+0000 <xrogaan_> all that can increade my python skill ($v$) 2011-07-04 07:27:10+0000 <antoviaque> let me have a look :) 2011-07-04 07:28:15+0000 <antoviaque> I don't have any paid task to give, but if you give me some details on the kind of features/dev you like to work on, I can definitely find something for you :) 2011-07-04 07:28:23+0000 <antoviaque> nice of you to propose, actually, thanks! 2011-07-04 07:30:59+0000 <xrogaan_> the thing is, I found myself more productive on given task than asked one. I mean, all my little projects aren't finished. But the thing people asked me to do were finished. 2011-07-04 07:31:02+0000 <xrogaan_> kinda strange huh ? 2011-07-04 07:32:11+0000 <xrogaan_> So, I don't really aim for something specific... 2011-07-04 07:35:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok then :) 2011-07-04 07:35:13+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-07-04 07:37:36+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2011-07-04 07:39:13+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: if you like unit tests, there is http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/76 2011-07-04 07:39:37+0000 <xrogaan_> dundundun 2011-07-04 07:39:53+0000 <xrogaan_> but who on earth like unit tests ? :p 2011-07-04 07:39:58+0000 <antoviaque> or if you prefer more an actual feature, there is that one which is important http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/167 2011-07-04 07:40:02+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, dachary does :D 2011-07-04 07:40:33+0000 <antoviaque> And I like them for their effect on preventing bugs ;p 2011-07-04 07:40:57+0000 <antoviaque> for #167 it's not specified though, so it would be something to discuss with dachary beforehand if you like it 2011-07-04 07:42:11+0000 <dachary> xrogaan_: I hate unit tests when I have to write them *after* coding. I love them when they test new code that was never run otherwise. It's a life saver. 2011-07-04 07:42:13+0000 <xrogaan_> I always wondered how people learned javascript 2011-07-04 07:42:23+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-04 07:42:37+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: so more a python task, right? 2011-07-04 07:42:41+0000 <xrogaan_> dachary: yeah, I feel doing the same stuff twice 2011-07-04 07:43:04+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: any idea of a task for xrogaan_, who is nicely proposing to contribute :) 2011-07-04 07:43:07+0000 <antoviaque> ? 2011-07-04 07:44:33+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: we can discuss this tomorrow if you don't mind ? I need to run. 2011-07-04 07:44:53+0000 <antoviaque> no worries, we'll try to find something 2011-07-04 07:45:32+0000 <xrogaan_> right, 'cause back 2000, there were no docs for javascript 2011-07-04 07:45:41+0000 <antoviaque> ok :) 2011-07-04 07:46:39+0000 <xrogaan_> Seriously, I started coding php and javascript near that year, and I couldn't find any usefull doc for javascript 2011-07-04 07:46:54+0000 <xrogaan_> but I was young, so maybe ... 2011-07-04 07:46:56+0000 <antoviaque> yup, at the beginning js was a complete mess 2011-07-04 07:47:15+0000 <antoviaque> it got better with the years though, especially since jquery 2011-07-04 07:48:39+0000 * antoviaque is checking a few things, didn't look at the list of tasks over the last few days 2011-07-04 07:50:36+0000 <antoviaque> maybe that one: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/106 2011-07-04 07:51:03+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: it's small, but very annoying for players, and is on the python webservice 2011-07-04 07:51:22+0000 <xrogaan_> i'm currently not on my development platform, so if you have better things to do, we can discuss later you know :p 2011-07-04 07:51:34+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: as you want :) 2011-07-04 07:52:15+0000 <antoviaque> grab me when you are on your dev plateform, we can have a look together at #106 then if you like the subject 2011-07-04 07:52:31+0000 <xrogaan_> and I don't even know how the whole thing works :p 2011-07-04 07:52:53+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-04 07:52:56+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep, that's why I tried to find something small :) 2011-07-04 07:53:49+0000 <xrogaan_> oh, btw, did you heard of transifex ? 2011-07-04 07:53:49+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: have a look at http://wiki.farsides.com (and especially http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Developer_Documentation & http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Requirements_and_deliverables_for_patch_submission ), it should help you to get started 2011-07-04 07:53:57+0000 <antoviaque> nope, what is it? 2011-07-04 07:54:06+0000 <xrogaan_> https://www.transifex.net/ 2011-07-04 07:54:22+0000 <xrogaan_> pretty helpfull to translate apps 2011-07-04 07:54:30+0000 <antoviaque> uh, yup, sounds interesting 2011-07-04 07:54:37+0000 <xrogaan_> (opensource, so you can have your own instance) 2011-07-04 07:55:21+0000 <antoviaque> do they have teams of translators already, or do you have to bring translators on the plateform? 2011-07-04 07:56:25+0000 <xrogaan_> Well, they just give a tool to help with the translation. Now, it's up to you to bring people to translate your apps 2011-07-04 07:56:39+0000 <xrogaan_> like bitbucket who ask their users 2011-07-04 07:57:20+0000 <antoviaque> I see, interesting in any case 2011-07-04 07:58:11+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for this :) 2011-07-04 07:58:41+0000 <xrogaan_> that's nothing. I've already said: i'm a lurcker :p 2011-07-04 07:59:03+0000 <xrogaan_> lurker ? 2011-07-04 07:59:13+0000 <antoviaque> lurker yep ;p 2011-07-04 08:01:13+0000 <antoviaque> well you're most welcome, and many thanks again for the offer to help, and the tip for transifex :) 2011-07-04 08:01:13+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-04 08:04:05+0000 <xrogaan_> I may want to learn django by myself first :p 2011-07-04 08:04:26+0000 <xrogaan_> eh eh 2011-07-04 08:05:00+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: the task is not on django but on the webservice, which is based on twisted 2011-07-04 08:05:16+0000 <antoviaque> (but you don't really need to worry about twisted much actually) 2011-07-04 08:05:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> new mockups for the Author view of the board table version is available here: https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author 2011-07-04 08:05:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-04 08:06:02+0000 <antoviaque> looking :D 2011-07-04 08:09:55+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: it's amazing :) 2011-07-04 08:10:03+0000 <antoviaque> really good work, congratz 2011-07-04 08:10:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-04 08:10:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> today I'm going to finish the Author view for the results, so if anyone have comments 2011-07-04 08:10:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll post on the buddypress too 2011-07-04 08:10:54+0000 <antoviaque> I'm syncing sparkleshare to get them and write down comments, but on the mockups I've seen sso far I only had very minor things 2011-07-04 09:16:31+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-04 09:47:55+0000 <xrogaan_> okay, so, what browser do you, sirs, use ? 2011-07-04 09:48:11+0000 <xrogaan_> firefox 5 is full of leak, that is really a problem 2011-07-04 09:57:38+0000 <xrogaan_> leak leaky leak 2011-07-04 09:58:51+0000 <xrogaan_> antoviaque: what about the channel ? 2011-07-04 11:10:16+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-04 11:17:58+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-04 11:22:46+0000 dbasant (dbasant) is now online 2011-07-04 11:32:43+0000 <antoviaque> xrogaan_: re, sorry, back from coffee 2011-07-04 11:32:55+0000 <antoviaque> chromium and firefox, depending 2011-07-04 11:34:36+0000 <xrogaan_> I just found memory fox, this addon is just awesome 2011-07-04 11:35:02+0000 <xrogaan_> I was used to the 500Mo memory usage of firefox 2011-07-04 11:35:12+0000 <xrogaan_> now, it's 132Mo top 2011-07-04 11:36:24+0000 <xrogaan_> if you have memory issues, like me on linux and firefox using easily 2 go of memory 2011-07-04 11:38:03+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that's one of the reasons I started using chromium more yup 2011-07-04 11:38:26+0000 <antoviaque> let me see this plugin :) 2011-07-04 11:39:54+0000 <antoviaque> cool this project too: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink 2011-07-04 11:40:58+0000 <xrogaan_> http://www.browsermemory.com/ 2011-07-04 11:42:47+0000 <xrogaan_> it's pretty clever 2011-07-04 11:43:10+0000 <xrogaan_> a lot of stupid developpers tends to auto-refresh pages, where there is no needs 2011-07-04 11:50:05+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-04 11:50:15+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes :) 2011-07-04 11:50:50+0000 <arbrandes> Morning, antoviaque! Morning, everybody! 2011-07-04 11:50:59+0000 <antoviaque> Good morning sir :) 2011-07-04 11:51:11+0000 <blanchard1> hi arbrandes. Did not get the chance yet to say 'yes ! Great news !' :) welcome on board ! 2011-07-04 11:52:16+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, thanks, man!! As I tried to express yesterday to antoviaque, I'm very happy about the outcome of all this. :) 2011-07-04 11:52:24+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-07-04 11:52:28+0000 <blanchard1> me too :) 2011-07-04 11:52:36+0000 <arbrandes> It's now just a matter of ironing out the details 2011-07-04 11:52:49+0000 <blanchard1> yep 2011-07-04 11:54:13+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: you want to start a first chat now ? 2011-07-04 11:54:19+0000 <arbrandes> As I told Xavier yesterday, if at all possible I'd like to make a decent handoff here at my current job, so I'm going to discuss matters with my ex- (still?) boss, and give you a deadline on when I can start for real. 2011-07-04 11:54:28+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, yes, that would be nice! 2011-07-04 11:54:39+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: yes, that looks good to me 2011-07-04 11:55:08+0000 <blanchard1> do you have an idea of the time this would take ? And until then, of the amount of time you would be able to dedicate to farsides ? 2011-07-04 11:55:27+0000 <blanchard1> ah sorry 2011-07-04 11:55:31+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, I'm not expecting it'll take very long, after all, I already did a pre-vacation mini-handoff. Who knows, I might start tomorrow, hehehe 2011-07-04 11:55:59+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, I'm going to box it at 2 weeks, tops 2011-07-04 11:56:06+0000 <blanchard1> i didn't see you note about coming back with a deadline. So I'll wait for you to get back to me 2011-07-04 11:56:17+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2 weeks seems very reasonable 2011-07-04 11:56:37+0000 <blanchard1> during these 2 weeks how do you see things ? 2011-07-04 11:56:51+0000 <blanchard1> I mean would you consider dedicating time to card stories 2011-07-04 11:57:01+0000 <arbrandes> Until then (or sooner), I'm going to dedicate weekends and nights, so we're looking at something in the order of 20 hours a week. 2011-07-04 11:57:22+0000 <blanchard1> don't spend all your energy though 2011-07-04 11:57:24+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2011-07-04 11:57:32+0000 <blanchard1> you'll need some after that :p 2011-07-04 11:57:46+0000 <blanchard1> you should keep some time to sleep 2011-07-04 11:58:01+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, hehehe, no worries... as I said, it might be that I can start tomorrow, I haven't discuss this with my ex-boss yet. 2011-07-04 11:58:06+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2011-07-04 11:58:58+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: regarding our previous discussion on the salary once you're full time 2011-07-04 11:59:13+0000 <blanchard1> if i remember correctly : 2011-07-04 12:00:00+0000 <blanchard1> we had discussed a 3000⬠per month (20 days => 150⬠per day), and a couple of months when farsides pays the taxes (27%) 2011-07-04 12:00:15+0000 <blanchard1> before you can setup the system where there is no tax 2011-07-04 12:00:26+0000 <blanchard1> am i remembering correctly ? 2011-07-04 12:02:55+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, yup, that is about what we discussed. I would be glad if you could raise that to 3200, as it would mean no impact into my current finances (that is exactly what I make now). But I would understand it if it's too much. 2011-07-04 12:04:24+0000 <arbrandes> Taxes as an individual are, to be precise, 25%. It would take around 2 months to set up a proper technology company so that taxes are reduced to less than 1%. 2011-07-04 12:06:26+0000 <arbrandes> (As a matter of fact, I'll be meeting up with my accountant today to start the process) 2011-07-04 12:07:00+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: ok for 3200, because it's good for you not to change from what you earn currently 2011-07-04 12:07:18+0000 <blanchard1> in the recurring contractor contract that I'll send you, 2011-07-04 12:07:41+0000 Laurent__ (Laurent__) is now online 2011-07-04 12:07:50+0000 <Laurent__> Hi all :) 2011-07-04 12:07:52+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, thank you, that helps a lot. :) 2011-07-04 12:07:57+0000 <antoviaque> hi Laurent__ :) 2011-07-04 12:08:01+0000 <antoviaque> how are you? 2011-07-04 12:08:03+0000 <Laurent__> tartarugafeliz: Hi Deborah 2011-07-04 12:08:08+0000 <Laurent__> fine :) 2011-07-04 12:08:12+0000 <Laurent__> and u ? 2011-07-04 12:08:20+0000 <antoviaque> Laurent__: very well, thanks :) 2011-07-04 12:08:33+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: there is a training budget that consists of 10% of your salary. I would suggest to have this training start once we go down to 1% tax if that's ok for you 2011-07-04 12:08:44+0000 <antoviaque> Laurent__: tartarugafeliz is out for a walk, she's coming back I think :) 2011-07-04 12:09:02+0000 <Laurent__> antoviaque: ah ok thks 2011-07-04 12:09:25+0000 <Laurent__> antoviaque: i'll try to comeback 2011-07-04 12:09:25+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, that's ok with me (I had momentarily forgotten about the training budget :) 2011-07-04 12:09:32+0000 <blanchard1> and i would really appreciate if we can limitate this 25% taxes to the first 2 months. If it stays longer, it would become a bit expensive for Farsides. Do you have a suggestion for that ? 2011-07-04 12:09:43+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, that also sounds fair to me 2011-07-04 12:10:39+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, I'll talk to my accountant to confirm the exact figure. 2011-07-04 12:10:54+0000 <arbrandes> (on the tax percentage, I mean) 2011-07-04 12:11:02+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: ok so 3200 for 20 days, payment of 25% tax limited to 2 months, training budget starts once tax thing is solved. Deal ? :) 2011-07-04 12:11:08+0000 <arbrandes> Deal! 2011-07-04 12:11:12+0000 <blanchard1> ok fo you coming back with exact % 2011-07-04 12:11:15+0000 <blanchard1> cool ! 2011-07-04 12:11:28+0000 <antoviaque> yeyy!! 2011-07-04 12:12:20+0000 <arbrandes> Heheheh, alright! :) 2011-07-04 12:12:32+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: I'll prepare a new contract that replaces the -not so- old one :p 2011-07-04 12:12:58+0000 <blanchard1> adding the financial part 2011-07-04 12:13:27+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, roger that. Once I get the company up and running, though, we'll need to make a new one, right? 2011-07-04 12:13:51+0000 <blanchard1> yes. We love to write contracts over and over, don't we ;p 2011-07-04 12:14:35+0000 <blanchard1> once you have your company, we'll just need to change the name though, should be fairly easy 2011-07-04 12:21:50+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: so I guess there is only left the next steps for the work itself left to discuss today 2011-07-04 12:22:15+0000 <arbrandes> (sorry, was away for a few minutes) 2011-07-04 12:22:17+0000 <antoviaque> ie next task (dev) and scrum 2011-07-04 12:22:28+0000 <antoviaque> np :) 2011-07-04 12:23:31+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, hit me, what's the next task? I see dachary has already created a few django bugs (which I agree with and was sort of expecting, by the way :) 2011-07-04 12:24:25+0000 <antoviaque> yup, working on django seem like the right thing 2011-07-04 12:24:43+0000 <antoviaque> there are laso the things we put in new tickets (facebook, etc.) 2011-07-04 12:27:13+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yup, I was expecting that, too. :) It's just a question of what is the order I should tackle them. 2011-07-04 12:27:22+0000 <arbrandes> (and the time estimates, of course) 2011-07-04 12:27:52+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: Xavier is on the phone, he'll be back soon 2011-07-04 12:32:10+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I think the most important task is http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/188 2011-07-04 12:32:24+0000 <dachary> (busy with other things today ;-) 2011-07-04 12:35:26+0000 <antoviaque> back 2011-07-04 12:36:10+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, hey man! roger that on #188. I'll probably need some guidance on what are acceptable alternatives, though (seeing as I did it wrong the first time, hehehe). 2011-07-04 12:37:15+0000 <antoviaque> for the task, I'll let you and loic agree on it - since you're taking on the role of scrumaster too I'm going to disinvolve myself from the actual choices of tasks on a daily basis 2011-07-04 12:38:31+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I'm very open to solutions, as long as it allows for the standalone version to run as an alternative to django. I'm thinking you could have a different entry point for django. But I did not think it thru. 2011-07-04 12:38:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ok, that sounds about right 2011-07-04 12:38:56+0000 <antoviaque> for the estimate it's a good question how to handle that, since it requires a validation of the studio - I'll try to think of it, but in the meantime we can simply keep seeing together I guess 2011-07-04 12:39:37+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-04 12:40:04+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, ok, I think I see what you mean. I'll try to think up of something, and I'll bring it up here (possibly with some code already). 2011-07-04 12:40:31+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: there is the question of the scrumaster role left 2011-07-04 12:40:38+0000 <antoviaque> I see two things: 2011-07-04 12:40:39+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, we'll figure something out, surely. :) 2011-07-04 12:40:41+0000 <arbrandes> go ahead 2011-07-04 12:41:23+0000 <antoviaque> 1) How you start and 2) how you get paid for this part (since payment is based on deliverables/tasks) 2011-07-04 12:42:02+0000 <antoviaque> for 1) I usually like the option of dropping you the baby directly and let you sort it out :) 2011-07-04 12:42:24+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: thanks :-) 2011-07-04 12:42:25+0000 <antoviaque> of course you'll need support, and I'll be happy to provide all you need 2011-07-04 12:42:53+0000 <antoviaque> but I think I'll be in a more reactive way - up to you to set the agenda and the pace :) 2011-07-04 12:44:00+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ok, since this all depends on my availability for my next two weeks, can we get back to this later on today, or tomorrow at the latest? This will give me time to discuss my handoff and, thus, how much time I'll actually have free. 2011-07-04 12:44:18+0000 <antoviaque> Also, I won't refrain myself from commenting, but do take them as simple comments- then it's up to you 2011-07-04 12:44:21+0000 <antoviaque> of course 2011-07-04 12:44:49+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, by then, I'll try to think up on a simple action plan for the beginning of the scrum experiment. 2011-07-04 12:44:58+0000 <antoviaque> sounds perfect :) 2011-07-04 12:46:48+0000 <arbrandes> okeydokey, I'm going to stay on for the rest of the day, but possibly away. As always, just holler if you need me (I'll probably do the same. :) 2011-07-04 12:47:04+0000 <antoviaque> alright :) 2011-07-04 13:21:48+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-04 13:27:59+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-04 14:08:07+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2011-07-04 14:27:01+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-04 14:36:30+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2011-07-04 14:37:26+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it looks like http://tickets.farsides.com/ has not pulled http://cardstori.es/ in a long time 2011-07-04 14:37:36+0000 <dachary> do you have an idea why ? 2011-07-04 14:43:10+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-04 14:54:13+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: let me see 2011-07-04 14:57:42+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: can't connect to tickets.farsides.com (wrong key), strange 2011-07-04 14:59:09+0000 <antoviaque> could connect from farsides.com - probably my fault and didn't put the right key 2011-07-04 15:08:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> blanchard: dudu comes here tomorrow around 18, 19 to play cardstories and then we have a drink until you have to go to your dinner, is that ok? :) 2011-07-04 15:08:38+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: that's very cool :) 2011-07-04 15:09:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-07-04 15:16:59+0000 <antoviaque> got the same thing on the other branch on gitorious - seem to be since the change of domain name for gitorious, fixed for there https://gitorious.org/cardstories/cardstories 2011-07-04 15:17:56+0000 <antoviaque> looking at redmine itself now 2011-07-04 15:21:50+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: uh nope: 2011-07-04 15:21:52+0000 <antoviaque> # ssh [email protected] 2011-07-04 15:21:52+0000 <antoviaque> [email protected]'s password: 2011-07-04 15:22:20+0000 <antoviaque> can you add my key on this server? not sure what I did wrong to lock myself out, couldn't access to it today actually 2011-07-04 15:22:37+0000 <antoviaque> I think I know what is the problem for the redmine repository 2011-07-04 15:23:17+0000 <antoviaque> likely the same one as the other - can't access the VM through its public IP from another VM 2011-07-04 15:23:34+0000 <antoviaque> (missing the entry in /etc/hosts for the new domain) 2011-07-04 15:24:19+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I don't have access either 2011-07-04 15:24:27+0000 <antoviaque> uh uh 2011-07-04 15:25:50+0000 <antoviaque> there is a way to access a VM through the master node of the cluster if I remember correctly? 2011-07-04 15:25:58+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: let me fix this 2011-07-04 15:26:20+0000 <dachary> tickets is going down, will be back up in 5 min 2011-07-04 15:26:24+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: thanks 2011-07-04 15:26:39+0000 <antoviaque> hope I didn't mess up stuff there last time I logged in 2011-07-04 15:26:45+0000 <antoviaque> but it was quite some time ago 2011-07-04 15:33:42+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it should work now 2011-07-04 15:33:51+0000 <dachary> I disabled password authentication too 2011-07-04 15:33:53+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: thanks 2011-07-04 15:34:29+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: do you have backups for tickets.farsides.com ? 2011-07-04 15:34:37+0000 <dachary> if not I suggest you go in panic mode and do it ;-) 2011-07-04 15:34:59+0000 <antoviaque> not yet - got the backup last week but didn't get the time to build it yet :) 2011-07-04 15:35:12+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll start a backup, first with the database 2011-07-04 15:35:33+0000 <antoviaque> think it could be a hack? 2011-07-04 15:36:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: no. But it's exactly the kind of event that makes you deeply regret to not have any backup to compare with the current state. 2011-07-04 15:37:15+0000 <antoviaque> agreed - it arrived a couple of weeks early, it's in the pipe 2011-07-04 15:39:02+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the help 2011-07-04 15:50:28+0000 <dachary> you're welcome. On my way back to paris, ttyl. 2011-07-04 16:18:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes_: blanchard tempuramerino xrogaan_ I put the designed mockups here: https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author 2011-07-04 16:18:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> if you have any comments, let me know ASAP! 2011-07-04 16:19:04+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: I've put a first set of comments on the buddypress, completing the rest right now http://farsides.com/groups/graphic-design/ 2011-07-04 16:19:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, I'm on it! :D 2011-07-04 16:19:22+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-07-04 16:19:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on the road! ahahahha 2011-07-04 16:19:27+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahah 2011-07-04 16:19:32+0000 <antoviaque> such a biker this deborah 2011-07-04 17:09:50+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-04 17:54:17+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: you talked about needing some help for stuff for investors last week - since we didn't catch-up on Friday, do you still need this? 2011-07-04 18:39:38+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-04 19:43:16+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yes I'll need some feedback once I'm done with the documents they want 2011-07-04 19:44:18+0000 <blanchard> in a couple of days I guess - I did not do it last week as i had planned 2011-07-04 20:15:26+0000 <antoviaque> ok then - let me know 2011-07-04 20:18:13+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: btw the repository on the redmine is up to date again, as eve_ just noticed :) 2011-07-04 21:07:26+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: :-) what was it ? 2011-07-04 21:43:28+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-04 21:43:30+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: the external IP of the VM not accessible from the other VM - same issue as for the gitorious mirroring script 2011-07-04 21:44:07+0000 <antoviaque> through the internal IP it works, so I pointed the new domain to the internal IP 2011-07-04 21:44:16+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: cardstories.politis.vm.gnt can be used instead 2011-07-04 21:44:53+0000 <antoviaque> good to know, thanks 2011-07-04 21:45:08+0000 <antoviaque> I added cardstories.org to the /etc/hosts 2011-07-04 21:45:26+0000 <antoviaque> this way I don't have to worry about where I am 2011-07-04 21:45:43+0000 <antoviaque> (until the next domain name, but hopefully that one will remain stable :) ) 2011-07-04 21:46:58+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: btw dist-upgrades do create issues, but they also reduce the chance of getting hacked :) 2011-07-04 21:50:07+0000 <antoviaque> as long as it's on a stable branch of a distro, especially debian, it's important to do one from time to time imho 2011-07-04 21:51:20+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: dist-upgrade will most probably not address *any* of the security issues you have 2011-07-04 21:51:22+0000 <antoviaque> afterwards, we can do it less chaotically than my usual style, for sure 2011-07-04 21:52:21+0000 <antoviaque> then why do distributions take such an extreme care of them? 2011-07-04 21:52:22+0000 <dachary> when was the last pure apache + php security update ? 2011-07-04 21:52:52+0000 <dachary> because they address security issues for real. Only *we* don't have this pattern. 2011-07-04 21:52:56+0000 <dachary> We have no users. 2011-07-04 21:53:25+0000 <dachary> The only port exposed to the outside is ssh (with no passwd) and http. 2011-07-04 21:53:59+0000 <dachary> redmine is *not* installed from package and will therefore not have any security upgrades installed 2011-07-04 21:54:31+0000 <dachary> cardstories itself has only trac installed + cardstories 2011-07-04 21:54:36+0000 <antoviaque> brb, have activated mongolian keyboard mode 2011-07-04 21:54:39+0000 <dachary> and now django 2011-07-04 21:54:44+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-07-04 21:54:57+0000 <antoviaque> can't defend myself ;0 2011-07-04 21:55:02+0000 <dachary> good 2011-07-04 21:55:02+0000 <antoviaque> brb 2011-07-04 21:59:00+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-04 21:59:57+0000 <antoviaque> re :) 2011-07-04 22:00:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahhhhh, much better! 2011-07-04 22:00:07+0000 <antoviaque> so 2011-07-04 22:01:04+0000 <antoviaque> I didn't upgrade the redmine recently, it was farsides.com. cardstories.org and my own vserver (plebia) 2011-07-04 22:06:53+0000 <antoviaque> ok, finishing this by mail :D 2011-07-04 23:06:55+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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