Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-10.


2011-07-10 00:33:33+0000 Anatole (Anatole) is now online
2011-07-10 00:33:39+0000 <Anatole> hi
2011-07-10 00:33:56+0000 <Anatole> is there someone ?
2011-07-10 00:36:08+0000 * Anatole feels alone
2011-07-10 08:58:24+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-07-10 09:17:19+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-10 09:33:43+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-07-10 09:54:19+0000 <arbrandes> Hey dachary!  Thanks for accepting #189. :)
2011-07-10 09:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> Any news from the folks at Strasbourg?
2011-07-10 09:54:53+0000 <dachary> hey
2011-07-10 09:54:59+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: no news. 
2011-07-10 09:55:03+0000 <dachary> I'm very curious :-)
2011-07-10 09:55:09+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, me too! heheheh
2011-07-10 09:55:19+0000 <dachary> they must be having a good time and do not 
care about us :-)
2011-07-10 09:55:24+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-07-10 09:55:36+0000 <arbrandes> Hahahaha, yes, that seems very likely ;)
2011-07-10 09:56:43+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, do you mind taking a look at 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/190#note-3 just to see if what I inferred 
makes sense?
2011-07-10 09:59:15+0000 <dachary> ok
2011-07-10 10:00:49+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I'm more relaxed than I was in 
the past three days. I wrote a 26 pages Q&A report summarizing iso 2001:2008 + 
iso 90003:2004 + iso 14764 parts applied to a large project. That was crazy :-)
2011-07-10 10:01:25+0000 <arbrandes> Whoa!!  That must have taken a LOT of work
2011-07-10 10:02:30+0000 <arbrandes> That would be something I would certainly 
NOT enjoy doing very much... I hope you got paid a truckload of money, hehehehe
2011-07-10 10:02:48+0000 <dachary> about #190 that's a good point.
2011-07-10 10:03:14+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I was inded paid handsomely. I 
did not enjoy it at all.
2011-07-10 10:03:25+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-07-10 10:03:43+0000 * dachary thinking about #190
2011-07-10 10:04:09+0000 <dachary> I think you're correct in saying that mail 
must know the name of djangoauth
2011-07-10 10:05:44+0000 <arbrandes> I imagine we could create a base Auth() 
class that authentication plugins implement, and then somehow abstract away the 
plugin name from mail.py, but honestly I don't know how complicated that would 
be in the current architecture.
2011-07-10 10:06:05+0000 <dachary> exactly.
2011-07-10 10:06:37+0000 <dachary> Creating a base class tha tis only needed 
for mail is overkill compared to hardwiring the compatible plugins. At least at 
this point in time. 
2011-07-10 10:07:38+0000 <dachary> I formaly agreed : 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/190#note-4 ;-)
2011-07-10 10:08:14+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, thanks, dachary! :)
2011-07-10 13:10:36+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-10 14:47:43+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-10 19:24:46+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-07-10 19:52:46+0000 <arbrandes> Hey dachary!  #190 is ready for review, if 
you feel like it: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/190#note-6
2011-07-10 19:58:28+0000 <dachary> hey
2011-07-10 20:03:31+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I'm on it
2011-07-10 20:04:21+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, no pressure, if you'd rather do 
this later, no problem for me :)
2011-07-10 20:05:06+0000 <dachary> I'm good. It's quiet and fresh here in Paris 
early night. My son is reading before going to bed. The cat purs at my feets. 
Perfect time for a review :-)
2011-07-10 20:06:59+0000 <arbrandes> Nice description, makes me want to get a 
cat. :)
2011-07-10 20:07:21+0000 <dachary> I've just played two game of cardstori.es 
with my son and a friend.
2011-07-10 20:07:59+0000 <arbrandes> How did it go?  I tried with a couple of 
my  friends yesterday, too.
2011-07-10 20:08:32+0000 <arbrandes> They said the same thing the playtesters 
did: it's a bit hard to understand at first.
2011-07-10 20:10:04+0000 <dachary>  if plugin.name() in ('auth', 'djangoauth'): 
2011-07-10 20:10:09+0000 <dachary> nice touch :-)
2011-07-10 20:10:43+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, thanks, without this I would've 
had to add a test to get 100% coverage. :) 
2011-07-10 20:11:06+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: it went well because most of the 
fun was to explain the game to my friend. My son knows it already because he 
learnt how to play it during the very early stages of development.
2011-07-10 20:11:42+0000 <dachary> We managed to play the games (my son, his 
mother and myself) with an interface that was *far* worse than what it is ;-)
2011-07-10 20:12:45+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, yes, when explaining it all works 
well, agreed.  In my case I just sent a link and heard back from them later.  
One of them is a coder, and he was actually kind of excited with the technology.
2011-07-10 20:13:04+0000 <arbrandes> the first comment was: "Cool, no flash!!"  
hehehe
2011-07-10 20:13:07+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-07-10 20:14:34+0000 <dachary> http://pastebin.com/EDv474U9
2011-07-10 20:14:42+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I have the error above ^ 
2011-07-10 20:14:46+0000 <dachary> do you have the same ? 
2011-07-10 20:14:49+0000 <dachary> I did 
2011-07-10 20:14:54+0000 <dachary> make -f maintain.mk check 
2011-07-10 20:14:58+0000 <dachary> from the top leve 
2011-07-10 20:15:02+0000 <dachary> l
2011-07-10 20:15:14+0000 <arbrandes> let me check
2011-07-10 20:17:14+0000 <arbrandes> oops, same here.  I wonder why I didn't 
catch it before...
2011-07-10 20:17:20+0000 <arbrandes> anyway, let me fix it
2011-07-10 20:19:19+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, amend, or new commit?  Does it 
make a difference to you either way?
2011-07-10 20:20:01+0000 <arbrandes> (from my side, it's all the same)
2011-07-10 20:20:28+0000 <dachary> that's what peer review is for ;-) New 
commit is fine with me.
2011-07-10 20:22:21+0000 <arbrandes> 
https://gitorious.org/~arbrandes/cardstories/arbrandes-cardstories/commit/11157fc414409a6f761b80b7665ca31afb5c9730
2011-07-10 20:22:36+0000 <dachary> When a carefull review of the patch is 
required a single commit is much easier. Or when there are multiple pending 
patches (either because you've been working real fast or because I've not 
reviewed during a long time). But I've not been lagging on your patches so far 
(mostly because they are near perfect each time). Therefore multiple commits 
are not a problem for me.
2011-07-10 20:25:02+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, understood.  :)  Coming from an SVN 
background, where multiple commits were very hard to handle.
2011-07-10 20:25:55+0000 <arbrandes> (compared to git, that is)
2011-07-10 20:28:39+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/190#note-8
2011-07-10 20:29:10+0000 <arbrandes> Cool, thanks! :D
2011-07-10 20:29:32+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I'll be at RMLL tomorrow night. 
I'll let you know how it goes. I'm eager to learn more :-)
2011-07-10 20:30:29+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, awesome, please do!  I'm also 
dying to know what's going on there. :)
2011-07-10 20:44:39+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, signing out for tonight.  Have a 
good trip tomorrow!  bye
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