Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-15.
2011-07-15 01:06:01+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-15 01:51:40+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-15 08:39:49+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-15 10:00:15+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-15 10:13:06+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-15 11:03:04+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-15 12:00:12+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka! 2011-07-15 12:00:31+0000 <antoviaque> I've seen you had issues completing your patch? 2011-07-15 12:00:32+0000 <mtyaka> hi! 2011-07-15 12:00:42+0000 <antoviaque> more rested today? :D 2011-07-15 12:00:54+0000 <mtyaka> sure 2011-07-15 12:01:18+0000 <mtyaka> no serious issues 2011-07-15 12:02:31+0000 <mtyaka> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/221 2011-07-15 12:02:54+0000 <mtyaka> the animation should be more or less done, but the tests still need to be written 2011-07-15 12:03:17+0000 <mtyaka> for that the qunit html fixtures would need to be updated, to match the new HTML structure 2011-07-15 12:03:54+0000 <antoviaque> yup, that's what I wanted to talk about - did you see that the new CSS layout was merged on Wednesday night? 2011-07-15 12:04:28+0000 <mtyaka> yes 2011-07-15 12:04:48+0000 <antoviaque> ok, cool 2011-07-15 12:05:02+0000 <antoviaque> anything missing or something I can help you with? 2011-07-15 12:05:24+0000 <mtyaka> what I'm talking about is the static/test/index.html file 2011-07-15 12:05:39+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-15 12:06:09+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, 100% coverage... Better than sex 2011-07-15 12:06:10+0000 <mtyaka> it contains a somewhat modified copy of the html, which hasn't been updated yet (unless i missed the relevant commit) 2011-07-15 12:06:14+0000 <arbrandes> hey guys 2011-07-15 12:06:16+0000 <antoviaque> basically I only touched the HTML/CSS - I didn't change the JS or the tests 2011-07-15 12:06:21+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : ) 2011-07-15 12:06:30+0000 <mtyaka> hi arbrandes 2011-07-15 12:06:38+0000 <arbrandes> hey antoviaque, mtyaka :) 2011-07-15 12:06:43+0000 <antoviaque> if you look at the index.html you'll see that the image file is even hardcoded 2011-07-15 12:07:24+0000 <antoviaque> I focused on the HTML/CSS and let you the JS side to avoid conflicting (and also because it was 1am when I finished :p ) 2011-07-15 12:07:46+0000 <mtyaka> ok, i understand that 2011-07-15 12:07:52+0000 <antoviaque> how do you want to proceed? 2011-07-15 12:08:48+0000 <mtyaka> there is a (slightly modified) copy of the contents of static/index.html inside static/test/index.html (inside the div with id qunit-fixtures) 2011-07-15 12:09:24+0000 <mtyaka> when the tests run, they use that HTML structure, not the one from the static/index.html file 2011-07-15 12:09:42+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I know - but first the JS has to be modified to handle the img src path/template 2011-07-15 12:10:11+0000 <mtyaka> so when static/index.html file is modified, the qunit-fixtures div inside static/test/index.html should also be updated to reflect the changes 2011-07-15 12:10:35+0000 <mtyaka> aha, ok 2011-07-15 12:10:51+0000 <mtyaka> so we are waiting for the JS to be updated? 2011-07-15 12:11:10+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I've shamefully let you that part :) 2011-07-15 12:11:18+0000 <antoviaque> btw if it's adding you work, we can of course add the corresponding time to the estimate 2011-07-15 12:12:09+0000 <antoviaque> you see what I mean for the template for the img src? there is an example in the portions of jqDock if I remember correctly 2011-07-15 12:12:50+0000 <mtyaka> i don't know, but i'll take a look 2011-07-15 12:12:50+0000 <antoviaque> the idea is to avoid putting a path in the JS code 2011-07-15 12:13:25+0000 <antoviaque> dachary found a good way to put it in the HTML, with a tag to be replaced by the card number 2011-07-15 12:14:04+0000 <antoviaque> since we can't use the CSS classes for this anymore, you'll have to use this option 2011-07-15 12:16:24+0000 <antoviaque> btw for the positioning of the card, at the end I used the negative margin method to keep it in the center - let me know if it's ok (if it's not I can change it) 2011-07-15 12:17:51+0000 <antoviaque> in any case, if there is something I can do to help, let me know 2011-07-15 12:19:12+0000 <mtyaka> yes, i noticed the negative margin - it is ok, i managed to animate it without much problems 2011-07-15 12:19:45+0000 <mtyaka> so let me see if i get this straight... 2011-07-15 12:19:51+0000 <mtyaka> i looked at the new html 2011-07-15 12:20:31+0000 <mtyaka> the wrapper div that is holding the image has an attribute data holding a value of: 'css/images/card0{card}.png' 2011-07-15 12:21:08+0000 <mtyaka> this is done in order that JS doesn't have to know about the path, it only needs to interpolate the card number into the above string 2011-07-15 12:21:49+0000 <mtyaka> so before doing any animation, my function should take this template path, interpolate the correct value into it, and dynamically set the src attribute of the img? 2011-07-15 12:28:07+0000 <antoviaque> exactly : ) 2011-07-15 12:28:49+0000 <mtyaka> ok, will do 2011-07-15 12:29:20+0000 <antoviaque> thanks mtyaka : ) 2011-07-15 12:50:54+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, dachary, ready for review: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/149#note-5 2011-07-15 12:51:10+0000 <arbrandes> Next!! ;) 2011-07-15 12:51:23+0000 <antoviaque> yeyyy! :D 2011-07-15 12:51:38+0000 <antoviaque> congratulations - arbrandes 1 facebook 0 :p 2011-07-15 12:52:09+0000 <arbrandes> Hahahah, thanks antoviaque, in the end it wasn't that bad (at least not for the small subset we're using). Also, I'm getting better at this testing stuff, hehehe 2011-07-15 12:52:41+0000 <antoviaque> hehe : ) 2011-07-15 12:53:58+0000 <arbrandes> ACK, but naturally I commited the api secret with this last one... 2011-07-15 12:54:01+0000 * arbrandes does facepalm 2011-07-15 12:59:38+0000 <arbrandes> fixed 2011-07-15 13:00:00+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I updated my function to do what we discussed and updated the ticket 2011-07-15 13:01:42+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yup, that's the way : ) 2011-07-15 13:02:13+0000 <antoviaque> I let you finish the rest (fixtures, unit test, etc.) or do you need my help? 2011-07-15 13:03:31+0000 <mtyaka> will it be good enough if I just mirror the changes you did on index.html over to the fixtures? 2011-07-15 13:03:32+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: :p 2011-07-15 13:04:06+0000 <mtyaka> or do the fixtures need more special attention? 2011-07-15 13:04:45+0000 <mtyaka> (i'm asking because i've seen that the fixture html isn't *exactly* the same as the html inside static/index.html, although it is very similar 2011-07-15 13:04:55+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: not sure how much the tests rely on the html structure there - I had a quick look on wednesday it was minimal 2011-07-15 13:05:36+0000 <antoviaque> it depends on the tests - you'll need to have a look at them I think 2011-07-15 13:05:55+0000 <mtyaka> ok, i will, thanks 2011-07-15 13:06:21+0000 <antoviaque> the new templating logic will need to be tested though, so you should see it then 2011-07-15 13:07:04+0000 <antoviaque> if you have a doubt ping me, I'll have a look with you 2011-07-15 13:07:13+0000 <mtyaka> i'll definitely need the new html to test the animations 2011-07-15 13:07:39+0000 <mtyaka> ok, thanks 2011-07-15 13:37:43+0000 <antoviaque> yw : ) 2011-07-15 13:37:47+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to you actually 2011-07-15 14:13:23+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-07-15 14:17:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, anything you'd like me to work on, before we finish this sprint and plan the next one? 2011-07-15 14:18:21+0000 <antoviaque1> You can chose if you want : ) 2011-07-15 14:18:32+0000 <antoviaque1> what would you like to work on? 2011-07-15 14:18:36+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, lemme take a look :) 2011-07-15 14:28:17+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, this looks interesting: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/167 2011-07-15 14:29:14+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1 ^ 2011-07-15 14:29:54+0000 <antoviaque1> yep, and quite important too : ) 2011-07-15 14:30:03+0000 <antoviaque1> ok for me 2011-07-15 14:30:24+0000 <antoviaque1> I let you have a look for the estimate : ) 2011-07-15 14:30:38+0000 <arbrandes> roger that :) 2011-07-15 14:32:24+0000 <antoviaque1> thanks! 2011-07-15 14:33:45+0000 <arbrandes> np! 2011-07-15 14:44:01+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque1: i copied the new html structure into qunit fixtures and wrote the tests. i updated the ticket, but again i can't seem to be able to set it into the 'ready for review' state 2011-07-15 14:45:01+0000 <antoviaque1> uh, let me see that 2011-07-15 14:45:43+0000 <antoviaque1> ah, it's because it was still in "new" 2011-07-15 14:46:13+0000 <antoviaque1> you should be able to pass it now 2011-07-15 14:46:42+0000 <antoviaque1> when you take a task and can't pass it to "in progress", let me know, it's probably because it's not in the right state 2011-07-15 14:47:30+0000 <mtyaka> ok, understand 2011-07-15 14:47:37+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, where would OWA run? cardstories.org itself, or farsides.com? Is getting the server running a part of #167? If so, I'd need SSH access, etc. 2011-07-15 15:12:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1 ^ 2011-07-15 15:16:05+0000 <arbrandes> lunch, brb 2011-07-15 17:07:34+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-15 17:42:09+0000 <antoviaque1> arbrandes: most likely on farsides.com 2011-07-15 17:42:25+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, I'm fooling around with it locally first, anyway 2011-07-15 17:42:51+0000 <antoviaque1> installing it isn't part of the task nope - instructions on how to interface it are enough 2011-07-15 17:43:04+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2011-07-15 17:43:07+0000 <antoviaque1> the idea would be to install it on every instance anyway 2011-07-15 17:43:29+0000 <antoviaque1> since we wouldn't want to mix dev/testing data with the live instance 2011-07-15 17:44:44+0000 <arbrandes> With django I was thinking of making it optional (to solve the dev problem), but I still haven't considered cardstories itself. 2011-07-15 18:19:45+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-15 18:49:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, can you please "specify" ticket 223? 2011-07-15 18:50:34+0000 <antoviaque1> arbrandes: done : ) 2011-07-15 18:50:44+0000 <arbrandes> With this, we're just waiting on dachary's review and merge. After that we can have a sprint review meeting. :) 2011-07-15 18:50:49+0000 <arbrandes> thanks! 2011-07-15 18:50:54+0000 <antoviaque1> cool : ) 2011-07-15 18:51:19+0000 <antoviaque1> when do you want to hold this meeting? 2011-07-15 18:51:29+0000 <antoviaque1> for me any time is good 2011-07-15 18:51:50+0000 <antoviaque1> maybe the main issue will be dachary's move, it's going to be the rush for him 2011-07-15 18:52:07+0000 <arbrandes> yup, that's what I thought 2011-07-15 18:53:03+0000 <antoviaque1> btw who's responsibility is it to organize those meetings? me/productmng or you/scrumaster? 2011-07-15 18:53:12+0000 <arbrandes> Well, meanwhile we can continue as before, I think, until he becomes available. As far as the meeting goes, any time is good for me. It would be best if all pigs and chickens could participate, though. :) 2011-07-15 18:53:30+0000 <antoviaque1> yup, agreed 2011-07-15 18:54:08+0000 <arbrandes> Regarding organization, I can take it on, as before. I don't know if there's an official scrum stance on who organizes. :) 2011-07-15 18:54:36+0000 <antoviaque1> ok - as you prefer 2011-07-15 18:54:46+0000 <arbrandes> I'll post on buddypress and advertise here, we'll see how it goes. Between the two of us, what would be ideal? 2011-07-15 18:54:53+0000 <arbrandes> A time and date, I mean 2011-07-15 18:55:24+0000 <arbrandes> I know dachary usually doesn't work saturdays, so it's either sunday or monday 2011-07-15 18:56:19+0000 <antoviaque1> when I can avoid doing organizing stuff myself I usually prefer ;p but I don't mind doing it either, especially considering you're volunteering the scrummaster role 2011-07-15 18:57:14+0000 <antoviaque1> for the date the best for me would be monday, but if sunday would be fine too if it arranges people 2011-07-15 18:57:39+0000 <arbrandes> You already have a lot on your shoulders, for sure, so I'll do this gladly. All in the name of progress! :) 2011-07-15 18:57:44+0000 <arbrandes> I'll try Monday. What time? 2011-07-15 18:57:55+0000 <antoviaque1> ahah, thanks :D 2011-07-15 18:58:38+0000 <antoviaque1> any time is good for me on Monday, I don't have any blocked time 2011-07-15 18:58:52+0000 <arbrandes> It can't be too late because of mtyaka, so I'm thinking, what, 14:00 GMT+2? 2011-07-15 18:59:49+0000 <antoviaque1> good for me 2011-07-15 19:00:01+0000 <arbrandes> aye, aye 2011-07-15 19:04:14+0000 <antoviaque1> thanks : ) 2011-07-15 19:08:40+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, dachary, tartarugafeliz (and blanchard, mtyaka, but they're not here :), if you can please take a look at http://farsides.com/activity/p/1193/ and reply, I'd be grateful. Thanks! 2011-07-15 19:10:28+0000 <arbrandes> thanks for the ultra-fast reply, tartarugafeliz :) 2011-07-15 19:11:42+0000 <antoviaque1> replied too :) 2011-07-15 19:11:48+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :) 2011-07-15 19:41:48+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-15 20:07:09+0000 <J-Mad> antoviaque1, you have a twitter account ? 2011-07-15 20:08:18+0000 <antoviaque1> yup 2011-07-15 20:08:59+0000 <antoviaque1> "antoviaque", but I mostly use it for following 2011-07-15 20:22:22+0000 <J-Mad> ok , thanks :) 2011-07-15 20:22:28+0000 <J-Mad> you are followed :) 2011-07-15 20:47:50+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, have you used OWA before? I don't think we'll be able to use the conversion funnels feature for anything but user registration: it relies on pageviews, and cardstories itself is a single pageview. 2011-07-15 20:48:07+0000 <arbrandes> Actions can be tracked, of course 2011-07-15 20:48:25+0000 <arbrandes> But the whole goals thing is pageview-dependent, it seems 2011-07-15 20:48:25+0000 <antoviaque1> arbrandes: not possible to use the funnels from javascript? 2011-07-15 20:48:39+0000 <antoviaque1> if I remember correctly, they have both approaches 2011-07-15 20:48:48+0000 <antoviaque1> one from server pages, one from JS 2011-07-15 20:48:50+0000 <antoviaque1> let me see 2011-07-15 20:49:18+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, I'm looking for it, but at the management console, you can only define URLs; I haven't found out how to fake a pageview from JS. 2011-07-15 20:50:53+0000 <arbrandes> (not yet, anyway :) 2011-07-15 20:52:50+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-15 20:53:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, ah, the so-called " custom event" may be of use. I think that's it. http://wiki.openwebanalytics.com/index.php?title=Tracker#Custom_Event_Tracking 2011-07-15 20:58:00+0000 <antoviaque1> yup, that's what I had in mind - however, you're right, I'm not sure this can trigger the conversion goals for the funnels 2011-07-15 20:58:20+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, I think it's doable. How do 12 hours sound (including some time I already spent)? Deadline tomorrow evening? 2011-07-15 20:58:32+0000 <antoviaque1> perfect for me 2011-07-15 20:58:46+0000 <arbrandes> okeydokey, will update ticket 167 2011-07-15 20:59:16+0000 <antoviaque1> is it ok for you to work on a Saturday? don't want to see your week-end screwed, you deserved it :) 2011-07-15 21:03:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque1, no problem at all. I've always loved working weekends, especially when I'm psyched about the project. ;) Plus, with the current system, this allows me some hours during the week to handle "real life" stuff on commercial hours. 2011-07-15 21:05:18+0000 <antoviaque1> perfect then - thanks for tomorrow, and glad you enjoy the flexibility : ) 2011-07-15 21:09:49+0000 <arbrandes> yup, I enjoy it greatly. :D 2011-07-15 21:09:52+0000 <arbrandes> np 2011-07-15 22:19:49+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-15 22:52:18+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-15 23:57:17+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
