Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-23.


2011-07-23 09:19:37+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-07-23 09:19:41+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-07-23 09:20:37+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-07-23 09:28:38+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-23 09:29:28+0000 <arbrandes> hey folks
2011-07-23 09:30:31+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, dude, I don't know if you saw I 
assigned you #244 and #245.  Are you ok with those tasks?  Do I need to make 
them clearer?
2011-07-23 09:30:50+0000 <mtyaka> hi arbrandes
2011-07-23 09:31:11+0000 <arbrandes> hey :)
2011-07-23 09:31:24+0000 <mtyaka> i noticed the tasks, but didn't yet have the 
time to read them carefully
2011-07-23 09:31:33+0000 <mtyaka> i am just begging to
2011-07-23 09:31:46+0000 <mtyaka> will you be around?
2011-07-23 09:31:50+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, ah, ok, np, when/if you get a 
chance, and if you have any doubts, just ping me
2011-07-23 09:31:52+0000 <arbrandes> yup
2011-07-23 09:31:59+0000 <mtyaka> ok great
2011-07-23 09:32:02+0000 <mtyaka> thanks
2011-07-23 09:58:19+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: #245 is about the cards "flying" 
from the deck onto the board and then slightly rising up to their final 
vertical position, right?
2011-07-23 09:59:16+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, precisely.  #244 is just a split 
of the same task, I thought I'd have had time to do it yesterday, but I didn't, 
so it's also all yours. :)
2011-07-23 09:59:30+0000 <mtyaka> ok
2011-07-23 09:59:52+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, you don't need to worry about 
morphing the cards into jqDock for this task
2011-07-23 10:00:01+0000 <mtyaka> you, i got that
2011-07-23 10:00:10+0000 <mtyaka> s/you/yup/
2011-07-23 10:00:20+0000 <arbrandes> That's still a bit of a riddle to me on 
how we're going to achieve it, hehehe
2011-07-23 10:00:38+0000 <mtyaka> the way cards slightly rise up seems a bit 
strange/unnecessary to me... are we sure it's intentional?
2011-07-23 10:00:47+0000 <mtyaka> heh, yes, that will be interesting :)
2011-07-23 10:01:21+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, good question, I'm just following 
tartarugafeliz's video to the letter.  Maybe we can ask her if she comes 
around.  antoviaque?
2011-07-23 10:02:26+0000 <mtyaka> i'm off for dinner
2011-07-23 10:02:42+0000 <mtyaka> bbs
2011-07-23 10:03:05+0000 <arbrandes> roger that :)
2011-07-23 10:26:31+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-07-23 10:52:14+0000 <mtyaka> nice work on the animation, arbrandes, very 
smooth
2011-07-23 10:56:24+0000 <mtyaka> solo mode doesn't currently work, right? or 
is it just me?
2011-07-23 10:56:52+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, thanks, just learning from you, 
hehehe :)  Yup, solo is broken
2011-07-23 10:56:57+0000 <arbrandes> Apparently, has been for some time
2011-07-23 10:57:08+0000 <arbrandes> I just use the ?skin thing
2011-07-23 10:57:48+0000 <mtyaka> what's the ?skin thing, pardon my ignorance?
2011-07-23 10:57:53+0000 <antoviaque> hello!
2011-07-23 10:58:19+0000 <antoviaque> let me see for the card rising thing
2011-07-23 10:58:24+0000 <mtyaka> hi antoviaque!
2011-07-23 10:58:28+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, sorry!  I run the twistd daemon 
directly, without django (it's to the end of the readme), and then I access:
2011-07-23 10:58:36+0000 <arbrandes> http://localhost:5000/static/?skin
2011-07-23 10:58:37+0000 <arbrandes> or
2011-07-23 10:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: 
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Developer_Documentation#Testing_the_game_alone
2011-07-23 10:58:44+0000 <arbrandes> 
http://localhost:5000/static/?skin=create_pick_card
2011-07-23 10:58:50+0000 <antoviaque> ah sorry
2011-07-23 10:58:56+0000 <arbrandes> hey antoviaque :)
2011-07-23 10:59:04+0000 <antoviaque> true it's missing there - I need to add 
it actually :p
2011-07-23 10:59:47+0000 <antoviaque> there actually: 
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Client_Documentation#Skin_gallery
2011-07-23 11:00:07+0000 <antoviaque> but it's missing the fact that we can 
call it without arguments
2011-07-23 11:00:25+0000 <mtyaka> ah, that's neat
2011-07-23 11:01:14+0000 <antoviaque> updated
2011-07-23 11:01:44+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, antoviaque :)
2011-07-23 11:01:56+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, be sure to pull my changes from 
#241 and #242 (I think)
2011-07-23 11:02:14+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: did that already :)
2011-07-23 11:02:19+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, ok, cool :)
2011-07-23 11:02:40+0000 <mtyaka> the ?skin thing is definitely very useful
2011-07-23 11:02:54+0000 <mtyaka> i'll go re-read the documentation, who knows 
what else i've missed
2011-07-23 11:03:25+0000 <antoviaque> and 
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Developer_Documentation#Testing_the_game_alone
 too, since it's a bit lost in the middle of the doc, too
2011-07-23 11:04:06+0000 <mtyaka> thanks
2011-07-23 11:04:14+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: if you notice some out of date 
stuff while you're at it, let me know - I'm sure there are plenty
2011-07-23 11:04:36+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ok
2011-07-23 11:04:40+0000 <antoviaque> thx : )
2011-07-23 11:15:02+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: any idea about the "rising cards" 
issue? is that intentional or not?
2011-07-23 11:15:22+0000 <antoviaque> ah true - sorry
2011-07-23 11:15:34+0000 <antoviaque> looking at it
2011-07-23 11:19:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I asked tartaruga, she said it was 
only if it was easy - the feeling is good to give but if it's complicated you 
can leave it aside
2011-07-23 11:20:18+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ^
2011-07-23 11:22:19+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ah, ok
2011-07-23 11:22:27+0000 <mtyaka> it shouldn't be too hard
2011-07-23 11:24:03+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I suggest using the $.queue() 
thing for this; it does away with the endless indentations of nested callbacks.
2011-07-23 11:24:44+0000 <arbrandes> (for the complete parameter of 
$.animate(), I mean)
2011-07-23 11:25:25+0000 <arbrandes> It's what I used in 
create_write_sentence_animate_end()  (and on yours, too, hehehe)
2011-07-23 11:25:50+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yeah, i saw; nice work
2011-07-23 11:26:05+0000 <mtyaka> i'll try to do something similar
2011-07-23 11:28:26+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-07-23 13:11:51+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-07-23 13:26:30+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: do you think it would be ok if for 
#244 I only create CSS for the final vertical position? to handle the lowest y 
value i would use a JS variable to hold the vertical offset in pixels. i 
wouldn't know how to deliver the CSS otherwise (create a separate class for 
each key frame?)
2011-07-23 14:12:41+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, that's fine, I was only expecting 
actual top and left values for #244, not real CSS, to be used in the animation.
2011-07-23 15:54:04+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: can we agree on the estimated 
time for #244 and #245?
2011-07-23 15:54:12+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2011-07-23 15:55:38+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: how long do you estimate for 
those?
2011-07-23 15:55:54+0000 <mtyaka> i was thinking 1hr for #244 and 6hrs for #245
2011-07-23 15:59:52+0000 <antoviaque> ok for me
2011-07-23 16:00:08+0000 <antoviaque> I let you update the ticket : )
2011-07-23 16:00:18+0000 <mtyaka> great, thanks
2011-07-23 16:00:18+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: mtyaka: thanks!
2011-07-23 16:00:45+0000 <arbrandes> hoo yah
2011-07-23 16:00:47+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-07-23 16:01:34+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2011-07-23 16:02:16+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-07-23 16:05:29+0000 * arbrandes having fun getting games to run under wine
2011-07-23 16:05:41+0000 <arbrandes> No luck with Street Fighter IV, though :(
2011-07-23 16:05:49+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, if you find one we could play... :p
2011-07-23 16:08:14+0000 <arbrandes> I'll play anything, anytime, just name it 
;)
2011-07-23 16:09:05+0000 <antoviaque> maybe we could plan out a starcraft game? 
:p
2011-07-23 16:09:23+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhhh, starcraft!  2?
2011-07-23 16:09:38+0000 <antoviaque> yup : )
2011-07-23 16:09:47+0000 <arbrandes> Haven't played it yet, but this is as good 
an incentive as any, hehehe
2011-07-23 16:09:53+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz plays too :D
2011-07-23 16:09:59+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhhh, even more incentive!
2011-07-23 16:10:08+0000 <arbrandes> Now it's a question of honor
2011-07-23 16:10:12+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha :p
2011-07-23 16:10:51+0000 <antoviaque> we should also find out a free software 
game, for those who don't want to use proprietary software ;p
2011-07-23 16:12:11+0000 <antoviaque> maybe one of the worms-like?
2011-07-23 16:12:13+0000 <arbrandes> There are several, it all depends on 
choosing a genre
2011-07-23 16:13:11+0000 <antoviaque> I'll post something on the buddypress 
about this - we've been talking about it, but now that the convention is over 
we could get started :)
2011-07-23 16:16:27+0000 <arbrandes> What's the deal with the region thing and 
starcraft?
2011-07-23 16:17:00+0000 <arbrandes> It says I'll only be able to play with 
people in the same region, i.e., Latin America, ou North America, etc.
2011-07-23 16:17:13+0000 <antoviaque> ah, good question - I haven't tried 
accross regions
2011-07-23 16:17:26+0000 <antoviaque> but would be surprising if there wasn't a 
way, when you know the person
2011-07-23 16:17:55+0000 <antoviaque> (you add friends through FB and can then 
invite them to your team)
2011-07-23 16:18:10+0000 <antoviaque> maybe it only work on the same region for 
auto-matching of opponents
2011-07-23 16:18:15+0000 <antoviaque> but would need to be checked yep
2011-07-23 16:20:48+0000 <arbrandes> not looking good, lot's of people 
complaining
2011-07-23 16:20:57+0000 <antoviaque> rahh - really?
2011-07-23 16:21:01+0000 <antoviaque> can't believe they did that
2011-07-23 16:22:00+0000 <antoviaque> if it was free software, we wouldn't have 
to worry about this :p
2011-07-23 16:22:21+0000 <arbrandes> 
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111608-StarCraft-II-Finally-Gets-Some-Cross-Region-Play
2011-07-23 16:22:22+0000 <antoviaque> but probably it would work if you bought 
a European key then
2011-07-23 16:22:31+0000 <arbrandes> But not accross LA and EU
2011-07-23 16:22:33+0000 <arbrandes> :/
2011-07-23 16:24:34+0000 <arbrandes> Yes, it seems if I bought and EU key it 
would work
2011-07-23 16:25:05+0000 <antoviaque> would cut you from people in Brazil 
though :/
2011-07-23 16:25:45+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, but that's a good thing, hahahaha...
2011-07-23 16:25:46+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-07-23 16:25:52+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha ;p
2011-07-23 16:25:53+0000 <arbrandes> Does it work on Wine?
2011-07-23 16:26:08+0000 <arbrandes> winehq looks promising
2011-07-23 16:26:10+0000 <antoviaque> I think so, a friend did make it work - 
didn't try myself though
2011-07-23 16:26:54+0000 <antoviaque> 
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
2011-07-23 16:54:09+0000 * arbrandes downloading SC2
2011-07-23 16:54:14+0000 <arbrandes> Moua-ha-ha-ha-ha
2011-07-23 16:54:25+0000 <antoviaque> heheheh :D
2011-07-23 16:54:54+0000 * arbrandes now looks for a strategy guide so he can 
bean antoviaque
2011-07-23 16:54:56+0000 <arbrandes> *beat
2011-07-23 16:55:03+0000 <antoviaque> you can try :p
2011-07-23 16:55:24+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, I definitely will.  ;)
2011-07-23 16:55:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, no, seriously if you have some sc 
experience, you should beat me easily : )
2011-07-23 16:55:43+0000 <arbrandes> I have ZERO experience, lol
2011-07-23 16:55:52+0000 <antoviaque> ohhhh - COOL!
2011-07-23 16:55:54+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahah
2011-07-23 16:56:09+0000 <arbrandes> I used to play WC3 many years ago
2011-07-23 16:56:14+0000 <arbrandes> But never starcraft, hehehe
2011-07-23 16:56:15+0000 <antoviaque> we'll play in a team, killing off some 
barbarians
2011-07-23 16:56:28+0000 <antoviaque> ah, you will like it I think : )
2011-07-23 16:56:56+0000 <arbrandes> Yeah, who knows, maybe I'll like it so 
much I'll move to Korea and go pro!
2011-07-23 16:57:08+0000 <arbrandes> :P
2011-07-23 16:57:21+0000 <antoviaque> why not - you can keep working on CS at 
the same time anyway ;p
2011-07-23 16:57:38+0000 <arbrandes> hahahaha, sure, I forgot
2011-07-23 16:57:53+0000 <arbrandes> Ok then, I'll spend a few months there 
Jedi-training to beat you, then, lol
2011-07-23 16:58:04+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2011-07-23 16:58:36+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now offline
2011-07-23 16:58:43+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-23 16:59:24+0000 <arbrandes> I'm actually excited about it, now
2011-07-23 16:59:36+0000 <arbrandes> It's been a while since a game worked me up
2011-07-23 16:59:40+0000 <arbrandes> Cool
2011-07-23 16:59:43+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-07-23 16:59:44+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2011-07-23 17:00:01+0000 <antoviaque> yep, sc is one of the few games I kept 
playing from time to time over the years
2011-07-23 17:00:04+0000 <arbrandes> (besides Cardstories, I mean ;)
2011-07-23 17:00:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha ;p
2011-07-23 17:00:12+0000 <antoviaque> of course :D
2011-07-23 18:27:17+0000 <dachary> I did not work for cardstories today as I 
expected. I got caught in a number of unrelated things. I however plan to work 
a few hours on cardstories tomorrow afternoon. 
2011-07-23 18:28:13+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: no problem - moving isn't a 
small task :)
2011-07-23 18:28:21+0000 <antoviaque> how is it going btw?
2011-07-23 18:36:52+0000 <dachary> moving is over. I got caught in computer 
things ;-)
2011-07-23 18:37:51+0000 <dachary> and trying to figure out how to send a fax
2011-07-23 18:38:06+0000 <antoviaque> ahah : )
2011-07-23 18:38:15+0000 <antoviaque> for faxes I think you can use ovh for that
2011-07-23 23:37:20+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
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