Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-09-27.
2011-09-27 05:53:13+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 06:48:29+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 06:48:31+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2011-09-27 07:21:31+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-27 07:22:12+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-09-27 07:26:42+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 07:42:45+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque1: hi :) I want to be in for OWA ! 2011-09-27 07:43:17+0000 <blanchard1> (btw i just posted something on buddypress for game profitability, we can continue the discussion here if you want) 2011-09-27 07:53:23+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 07:57:08+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque1: plebia looks cool :) 2011-09-27 07:57:39+0000 <blanchard1> i stumbled upon a few glitches. Where should i report bugs ? 2011-09-27 07:57:46+0000 <blanchard1> in feedback&support ? 2011-09-27 07:58:27+0000 <blanchard1> big one is that i'm not able to add serie, nothing happens when i enter a name 2011-09-27 07:58:48+0000 <blanchard1> +1 for the episodes menu btw 2011-09-27 07:59:14+0000 <blanchard1> i wanted to work and now i'm watching lie to me :p 2011-09-27 09:22:19+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 10:40:33+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-09-27 10:40:45+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-09-27 10:41:22+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-27 11:45:24+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-27 11:45:42+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2011-09-27 11:46:14+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-09-27 11:46:56+0000 <antoviaque> hey mtyaka :) 2011-09-27 11:47:23+0000 <mtyaka> hey antoviaque :) 2011-09-27 11:47:52+0000 <mtyaka> how's it going? 2011-09-27 11:48:16+0000 <antoviaque> very good : ) 2011-09-27 11:48:32+0000 <mtyaka> great, glad to hear that :) 2011-09-27 11:48:46+0000 <mtyaka> i saw we've already got the chat working 2011-09-27 11:48:47+0000 <antoviaque> just coming back from a meeting wwith a French PR agency I worked with in the past, to show them the game : ) 2011-09-27 11:49:09+0000 <antoviaque> yep, arbrandes did a good rush to finish the main things for the beta 2011-09-27 11:49:13+0000 <mtyaka> oh... so the meeting went well? 2011-09-27 11:50:38+0000 <antoviaque> very well! I was wondering how it would go, since they mostly work with a couple of big franchises (Nintendo), and are usually very selective with the smaller games that they take on 2011-09-27 11:51:26+0000 <antoviaque> but I made they playtest it, and they really got caught by it 2011-09-27 11:51:40+0000 <mtyaka> great :) 2011-09-27 11:51:54+0000 <antoviaque> the room was full of "ahahaha, I'm sure I won!" "tsss, stupid card you chose ahahaha" etc ;p 2011-09-27 11:52:42+0000 <blanchard1> hi erveryone :) 2011-09-27 11:52:48+0000 <antoviaque> so looking good - if we can find the money to pay them, we could have a very good PR coverage in France : ) 2011-09-27 11:52:53+0000 <antoviaque> hi blanchard1 ! 2011-09-27 11:52:54+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque that's cool ! 2011-09-27 11:52:59+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, awesome 2011-09-27 11:53:04+0000 <antoviaque> yep, very good playtest :) 2011-09-27 11:53:04+0000 <blanchard1> so the only issue is money then ;) 2011-09-27 11:53:06+0000 <mtyaka> hi blanchard1! 2011-09-27 11:53:11+0000 <blanchard1> hi mtyaka :) 2011-09-27 11:53:12+0000 <antoviaque> yep! 2011-09-27 11:54:37+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque i wrote some stuff this morning to antoviaque1, do you want me to copy/paste ? 2011-09-27 11:55:06+0000 <antoviaque> yes please - I'm still in Paris, I would'nt have had time to come back to the country house in time 2011-09-27 11:55:30+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque is paris and antoviaque1 is country ? :) 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:42:46 AM) blanchard1: antoviaque1: hi :) I want to be in for OWA ! 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:43:18 AM) blanchard1: (btw i just posted something on buddypress for game profitability, we can continue the discussion here if you want) 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:57:09 AM) blanchard1: antoviaque1: plebia looks cool :) 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:47:32 AM) dachary left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:53:25 AM) dachary [~loic@freenode/sponsor/dachary] entered the room. 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:57:40 AM) blanchard1: i stumbled upon a few glitches. Where should i report bugs ? 2011-09-27 11:55:43+0000 <blanchard1> (09:57:47 AM) blanchard1: in feedback&support ? 2011-09-27 11:55:44+0000 <blanchard1> (09:58:28 AM) blanchard1: big one is that i'm not able to add serie, nothing happens when i enter a name 2011-09-27 11:55:44+0000 <blanchard1> (09:58:50 AM) blanchard1: +1 for the episodes menu btw 2011-09-27 11:55:45+0000 <blanchard1> (09:59:15 AM) blanchard1: i wanted to work and now i'm watching lie to me :p 2011-09-27 11:55:49+0000 <blanchard1> sorry for the spam ! 2011-09-27 11:55:57+0000 <antoviaque> (btw Deborah is going to come back late for the meeting, so she gave me her report for eve, and if you have questions for her she'll be there shortly after the meeting) 2011-09-27 11:56:01+0000 <antoviaque> thx, readng 2011-09-27 11:57:20+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: yep for OWA, I'll add yo to the list of emails, and create an account (and for anyone else who wants - the email allows to be warned whenever there is a new visit on cardstories.org) 2011-09-27 11:57:40+0000 <antoviaque> (can you post me a reminder on the buddypress so that I don't forget when I come back?) 2011-09-27 11:57:42+0000 <blanchard1> cool thx 2011-09-27 11:57:49+0000 <blanchard1> sure 2011-09-27 11:58:13+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: yep, for the bug the best place right now is the uservoice, I reviez the list periodically 2011-09-27 11:58:20+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2011-09-27 11:58:35+0000 <antoviaque> note though that some of the bugs you had are linked to the fact that code on this version is't finished 2011-09-27 11:59:04+0000 <antoviaque> glad that you liked, in any case : ) 2011-09-27 11:59:05+0000 <blanchard1> ah ok so i guess i should wait before testing antoviaque ? 2011-09-27 11:59:19+0000 <blanchard1> to avoid reviewing obvious stuff 2011-09-27 11:59:42+0000 <antoviaque> yep, for testing itself it's not ready - it was more to show the work in progress, and if there was comments on the concept/redesign 2011-09-27 11:59:51+0000 <blanchard1> oki 2011-09-27 12:00:04+0000 <blanchard1> i like the concept :) 2011-09-27 12:00:28+0000 <blanchard1> it groups everything by serie right ? 2011-09-27 12:00:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep : ) 2011-09-27 12:01:32+0000 <antoviaque> it will also donload all episodes from the series immediately, to simplify that part 2011-09-27 12:01:43+0000 <blanchard1> very cool 2011-09-27 12:02:03+0000 <antoviaque> for grouping by series it's also to make the feed more redable, and thus allow to discover/find things more easily 2011-09-27 12:02:22+0000 <blanchard1> it is more readable indeed antoviaque 2011-09-27 12:03:22+0000 <antoviaque> you add it "Pioneer One" to the feed, and then all episodes are downloaded 2011-09-27 12:03:37+0000 <blanchard1> ok. I like that 2011-09-27 12:03:43+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) 2011-09-27 12:04:40+0000 <antoviaque> there is potentially a space issue, but with the teras we have on servers now, we'll see how much of a problem it turns to be 2011-09-27 12:05:08+0000 <antoviaque> ooops, time for the meeting : ) 2011-09-27 12:05:13+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting 2011-09-27 12:05:13+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-09-27 12:05:27+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I reviewed 10 tasks from arbrandes' "ready for review" queue 2011-09-27 12:05:27+0000 <eve> Done: I reviewed 10 tasks from arbrandes' "ready for review" queue 2011-09-27 12:05:28+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I will review some more tasks, if time permits. 2011-09-27 12:05:29+0000 <eve> Next: I will review some more tasks, if time permits 2011-09-27 12:05:30+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers Lack of time :) 2011-09-27 12:05:30+0000 <eve> Blockers: Lack of time :) 2011-09-27 12:05:40+0000 <antoviaque> cool mtyaka : ) 2011-09-27 12:05:54+0000 <antoviaque> how is it going with the code reviews btw? 2011-09-27 12:06:14+0000 <mtyaka> very well 2011-09-27 12:06:42+0000 <mtyaka> i have been spending much time on them this month 2011-09-27 12:07:18+0000 <mtyaka> (i guess i've gotten more efficient at it) 2011-09-27 12:07:19+0000 <arbrandes> thanks for that, mtyaka 2011-09-27 12:07:36+0000 <mtyaka> hey arbrandes :) 2011-09-27 12:07:40+0000 <mtyaka> my pleasure 2011-09-27 12:07:41+0000 <arbrandes> hey man ;) 2011-09-27 12:07:47+0000 <antoviaque> hey arbrandes : ) 2011-09-27 12:07:47+0000 <mtyaka> it helps me keep in touch with the code 2011-09-27 12:07:49+0000 <blanchard1> hi arbrandes :) 2011-09-27 12:07:53+0000 <arbrandes> hey antoviaque, blanchard1 :) 2011-09-27 12:08:02+0000 <mtyaka> and hopefully i'll keep some good coding habits from you :) 2011-09-27 12:08:10+0000 <antoviaque> yep mtyaka beginning, and also because you had less time while arbrandes was full speed : ) 2011-09-27 12:08:38+0000 <mtyaka> blah, i ment to say *pick up* rather then *keep* 2011-09-27 12:08:44+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, heh, I think the same way when I look at your code, so I guess we're in a feedback loop, lol 2011-09-27 12:08:49+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: yeah, that's part of the reason 2011-09-27 12:08:56+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: how is it going with the moving btw? going to get more time? 2011-09-27 12:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> (no rush) 2011-09-27 12:09:19+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: next week will be better, i think 2011-09-27 12:09:26+0000 <antoviaque> okidok 2011-09-27 12:09:43+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: want to go next? 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday 121, a little playtesting. 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <eve> Done: 121, a little playtesting 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today send Banana Soft. details and invoice to blanchard, maybe take on a small ticket 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <eve> Next: send Banana Soft. details and invoice to blanchard, maybe take on a small ticket 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers none! 2011-09-27 12:10:03+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-09-27 12:10:16+0000 <antoviaque> thx! 2011-09-27 12:10:19+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: ? 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <blanchard1> eve, yesterday : some mails to catch up with possible business partners (and telling them to be patient regarding the bp/pitch :)), first look at the financials update. 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <eve> Done: : some mails to catch up with possible business partners (and telling them to be patient regarding the bp/pitch :)), first look at the financials update 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <blanchard1> eve, today : search for some new contacts, and rework business plan when i get it (count 2 days to finalize everything + add external proofreading). 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <eve> Next: : search for some new contacts, and rework business plan when i get it (count 2 days to finalize everything + add external proofreading) 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <blanchard1> eve, blockers : 1) tartarugafeliz :) how is it going with the bp ? 2) antoviaque not a blocker but there are a few things for you i left on buddypress 2011-09-27 12:10:36+0000 <eve> Blockers: : 1) tartarugafeliz :) how is it going with the bp ? 2) antoviaque not a blocker but there are a few things for you i left on buddypress 2011-09-27 12:11:04+0000 <blanchard1> i know tartaruga is not there yet :) 2011-09-27 12:11:16+0000 <blanchard1> I'll check with her when she's back 2011-09-27 12:11:18+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-09-27 12:11:28+0000 <antoviaque> I have her report, wit 2011-09-27 12:11:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday tartarugafeliz -> worked on the pitch 2011-09-27 12:11:50+0000 <eve> Done: tartarugafeliz -> worked on the pitch 2011-09-27 12:11:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today tartarugafeliz -> I'll finish the pitch 2011-09-27 12:11:58+0000 <eve> Next: tartarugafeliz -> I'll finish the pitch 2011-09-27 12:12:03+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers tartarugafeliz -> none 2011-09-27 12:12:03+0000 <eve> Blockers: tartarugafeliz -> none 2011-09-27 12:12:15+0000 <antoviaque> so you should have it tonight hopefully : ) 2011-09-27 12:12:39+0000 <blanchard1> thx antoviaque actually it's more a question about the bp that I had :) 2011-09-27 12:12:46+0000 <antoviaque> ah! 2011-09-27 12:12:51+0000 <blanchard1> but no worry i'll see with her after 2011-09-27 12:12:51+0000 <antoviaque> she'll be there soon : ) 2011-09-27 12:13:02+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Setup of cardstories.org with the current alpha (server/game, Facebook login, OWA), wrote playtest script for videorecroded playtest sessions, met French PR agency "la boite" & did a playtest with them (went amazingly well!) 2011-09-27 12:13:02+0000 <eve> Done: Setup of cardstories.org with the current alpha (server/game, Facebook login, OWA), wrote playtest script for videorecroded playtest sessions, met French PR agency "la boite" & did a playtest with them (went amazingly well!) 2011-09-27 12:13:25+0000 <arbrandes> "videorecorded playtest sessions"? 2011-09-27 12:13:26+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss some of the blockers I saw during the playtest this morning, work on either the CS playtest or on Plebia depending on the discussion 2011-09-27 12:13:26+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss some of the blockers I saw during the playtest this morning, work on either the CS playtest or on Plebia depending on the discussion 2011-09-27 12:13:37+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None 2011-09-27 12:13:37+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-09-27 12:13:42+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep 2011-09-27 12:13:47+0000 <arbrandes> cool! :) 2011-09-27 12:13:56+0000 <antoviaque> it's similar to feedbackarmy, bt more qualitative 2011-09-27 12:14:09+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque like the ones we did for hpo ? 2011-09-27 12:14:15+0000 <antoviaque> they record the screen of the testers, and they comment out loud while they play, it's very cool to see 2011-09-27 12:14:21+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: yep 2011-09-27 12:14:36+0000 <blanchard1> yeah that was cool 2011-09-27 12:14:38+0000 <arbrandes> Amazing what kind of services you can get on the web these days 2011-09-27 12:14:44+0000 <arbrandes> Really cool 2011-09-27 12:14:45+0000 <antoviaque> but actually I got the occasion to do a direct playtest this morning with the PR agency, it was even better 2011-09-27 12:15:08+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, it's nvaluable - otherwise it's so much organisation that we don't do it enough 2011-09-27 12:15:19+0000 <blanchard1> so what are the blokers antoviaque ? I'm eager to know :) 2011-09-27 12:15:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, what were the blockers? 2011-09-27 12:15:24+0000 <arbrandes> heheheh 2011-09-27 12:15:26+0000 <blanchard1> hehe 2011-09-27 12:15:31+0000 <antoviaque> hehehehe 2011-09-27 12:15:33+0000 <blanchard1> great minds arbrandes 2011-09-27 12:15:40+0000 <arbrandes> yup ;) 2011-09-27 12:15:50+0000 <antoviaque> the good news is that the main ones aren't mostly with the game understanding now : ) 2011-09-27 12:15:56+0000 <antoviaque> yey!! 2011-09-27 12:16:01+0000 <blanchard1> pfiouuu 2011-09-27 12:16:02+0000 <arbrandes> yay indeed! 2011-09-27 12:16:09+0000 <arbrandes> Mission Accomplished 2011-09-27 12:16:10+0000 <blanchard1> big relief this one 2011-09-27 12:16:27+0000 <blanchard1> well done :) 2011-09-27 12:16:31+0000 <antoviaque> they get it on their own - I did a little explaining but it was to go faster, they were getting it on their own 2011-09-27 12:16:45+0000 <antoviaque> well done yep :) was a tough one! 2011-09-27 12:17:05+0000 <antoviaque> the main thing I saw caused problem was the invitation of each other 2011-09-27 12:17:58+0000 <blanchard1> a first step could be to tell the game master to copy paste the url in the chat during the invitation step ? 2011-09-27 12:18:03+0000 <antoviaque> They had to now about copy-pasting the URL in the chat (which isn't explained), because inviting by email was not really handy, especially in a live situation like this 2011-09-27 12:18:12+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: it could be yep 2011-09-27 12:18:17+0000 <blanchard1> temporary step i mean 2011-09-27 12:18:22+0000 <antoviaque> the issue though is that they defenitly don't read much 2011-09-27 12:18:30+0000 <blanchard1> true 2011-09-27 12:18:59+0000 <antoviaque> it's a bit more, but I'm thinking that putting it automatically in the chat when a game is created would be handier 2011-09-27 12:19:33+0000 <arbrandes> definitely 2011-09-27 12:19:43+0000 <antoviaque> and there is also the issue of finding someone to play - so we should have some kind of warning when a newcomer creates the game, to be able to join his game 2011-09-27 12:19:45+0000 <blanchard1> yep 2011-09-27 12:20:11+0000 <arbrandes> a newcomer specifically, or anybody? 2011-09-27 12:21:03+0000 <antoviaque> whatever is easiest - I'm thinking anybody would be good to grow the community at first - you leave it open if you like the game, and everyone knows when there is a new game to play 2011-09-27 12:21:56+0000 <antoviaque> not sure how much work this is though arbrandes 2011-09-27 12:22:11+0000 <arbrandes> In this case, I believe the easiest would be to simply announce any games that are created 2011-09-27 12:22:19+0000 <antoviaque> yep, agreed 2011-09-27 12:22:37+0000 <arbrandes> Now, by "easiest" I don't necessarily mean "easy" 2011-09-27 12:22:49+0000 <blanchard1> hehe 2011-09-27 12:22:50+0000 <arbrandes> First problem that comes to mind: 2011-09-27 12:23:35+0000 <arbrandes> The cardstories server is not currently aware of the full URL of the games 2011-09-27 12:23:48+0000 <arbrandes> Meaning, it doesn't deal with it 2011-09-27 12:23:59+0000 <antoviaque> uhu, true 2011-09-27 12:24:05+0000 <arbrandes> To render an actual URL, that would have to be solved 2011-09-27 12:24:25+0000 <arbrandes> Preferrably in an not-too-ugly manner, hehehe 2011-09-27 12:26:06+0000 <antoviaque> how much delay do you think this would create? 2011-09-27 12:26:39+0000 <arbrandes> The chat plugin (server side) will also have to be modified to handle game creation; not sure if the core would also have to be changed. Needs investigation. 2011-09-27 12:27:07+0000 <arbrandes> Just thinking out loud 2011-09-27 12:27:24+0000 <antoviaque> yup - if you want you can take the time to think about it carefully 2011-09-27 12:27:30+0000 <arbrandes> It's an interesting problem, have to look harder to give a proper estimate 2011-09-27 12:27:40+0000 <antoviaque> ok, thanks : ) 2011-09-27 12:27:59+0000 <antoviaque> aside from the time/work issue, what do yo think of the issue/solution here? 2011-09-27 12:28:33+0000 <arbrandes> It's doable, of course, and as far as I can tell if solves the "live" invitation problem 2011-09-27 12:28:42+0000 <arbrandes> *it solves 2011-09-27 12:29:04+0000 <antoviaque> yep, as long as we don't have too many players it will work ver well imho 2011-09-27 12:29:27+0000 <blanchard1> i am wondering about the lobby : it could show the list of available games if simplified and modified i guess, independantly of the chat. But then it should be more visible to players (right now too hidden). Just a thought. 2011-09-27 12:29:49+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, definitely, when there are many players the whole chat thing will have to be reworked, possibly with private rooms, etc 2011-09-27 12:30:06+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: true, and that may be an option if it's too tricky to use the chat 2011-09-27 12:30:09+0000 <blanchard1> like a window available on the game screen somewhre (the simplified version of the lobby) 2011-09-27 12:30:31+0000 <antoviaque> would be bigger changes though to make it really usable imho 2011-09-27 12:31:03+0000 <blanchard1> yep it's a bit far from usable currently agreed :) 2011-09-27 12:31:04+0000 <antoviaque> (and the url in the chat has the advantage to fit our main use case) 2011-09-27 12:31:10+0000 <antoviaque> but worth investigating yep 2011-09-27 12:31:23+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard1, it's a good idea, but as antoviaque points out, this would not be a trivial change - currently, it's an "either-or" situation: you're either in the lobby, or in the game. 2011-09-27 12:31:42+0000 <blanchard1> ah ok arbrandes i didn't have this in mind 2011-09-27 12:31:43+0000 <arbrandes> (obviously, but I mean architecture-wise) 2011-09-27 12:31:58+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: there are some tickets about the work needed on the lobby, maybe you could try to do a pass on them if you're interested, to complement/improve it 2011-09-27 12:32:28+0000 <blanchard1> well i can do that for sure, but i'm more interested in helping finding a short term solution if i can :) 2011-09-27 12:32:35+0000 <antoviaque> ok then : ) 2011-09-27 12:33:14+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so let's see what good technical solution arbrandes can come up with, and then rediscuss it : ) 2011-09-27 12:33:27+0000 <antoviaque> thanks guys! 2011-09-27 12:33:29+0000 <blanchard1> are we good ? I need to be afk for an hour or so, back after that 2011-09-27 12:33:33+0000 <blanchard1> thanks :) 2011-09-27 12:33:34+0000 <arbrandes> roger, roger :) 2011-09-27 12:33:40+0000 <blanchard1> bbl 2011-09-27 12:33:58+0000 <antoviaque> btw there was a couple of other issues, but less bloking, so I'll post about it in the buddypress when I'm back 2011-09-27 12:34:15+0000 <antoviaque> all good for the meeting? 2011-09-27 12:34:48+0000 <arbrandes> for me, yes, thanks 2011-09-27 12:34:51+0000 <blanchard1> yep ! 2011-09-27 12:36:02+0000 <antoviaque> thx : ) 2011-09-27 12:36:07+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting 2011-09-27 12:36:08+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-09-27 12:36:08+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/483233 2011-09-27 12:46:45+0000 <arbrandes> bbl 2011-09-27 13:32:24+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: are u there? 2011-09-27 13:33:46+0000 <antoviaque> the bp is ready! :) 2011-09-27 13:35:15+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ^ 2011-09-27 13:40:17+0000 <antoviaque> ok we are going back by scooter, in one hour app I'll be back! 2011-09-27 13:40:19+0000 <antoviaque> bisou! 2011-09-27 14:51:21+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque1: message for Deb, i'm going home, i'll be online again in 40mn, bisous ! 2011-09-27 14:51:46+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now offline 2011-09-27 15:23:19+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-09-27 15:23:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello blanchard! 2011-09-27 15:30:15+0000 <blanchard> hi tartarugafeliz :) 2011-09-27 15:30:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-09-27 15:30:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you have questions for me? 2011-09-27 15:30:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm doing the pitch 2011-09-27 15:30:54+0000 <blanchard> question for you. Can I use the bp file ? Has it changed since our talk yesterday ? 2011-09-27 15:31:01+0000 <blanchard> :) 2011-09-27 15:31:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, you can use! 2011-09-27 15:31:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll update all my files right now 2011-09-27 15:31:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> just to be sure 2011-09-27 15:32:28+0000 <blanchard> ah so you're not updating a new bp related to our talk yesterday ? (to make sure i undersand. I had understood i was waiting for you to upload something for me to be able to modify the images) 2011-09-27 15:32:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap its up to date! 2011-09-27 15:32:57+0000 <blanchard> can you explain please tartarugafeliz i'm a bit lost :) 2011-09-27 15:33:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yesterday you said you couldn't find some links 2011-09-27 15:33:23+0000 <blanchard> yep 2011-09-27 15:33:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but I put everything organized on the folders 2011-09-27 15:33:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> now you should be able to find everythin 2011-09-27 15:33:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> g 2011-09-27 15:33:57+0000 <blanchard> ah ok because i did git pull an hour and there was nothing new. I'll try again now tartarugafeliz 2011-09-27 15:34:06+0000 <blanchard> an hour *ago 2011-09-27 15:34:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and the 2 pngs that you couldn't find are inside of fund raising - august 2011 2011-09-27 15:34:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> which indesign file are you working on? 2011-09-27 15:34:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its the businessplan_david_sept_14.indd inside fund raising - august 2011? 2011-09-27 15:35:06+0000 <blanchard> yes tartarugafeliz 2011-09-27 15:35:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and its still giving problems with links? 2011-09-27 15:35:39+0000 <blanchard> i'm going to try now i'll let you now :) 2011-09-27 15:36:08+0000 <antoviaque1> everything alright? 2011-09-27 15:36:26+0000 <blanchard> wait it takes ages to open on my side :) 2011-09-27 15:37:23+0000 <antoviaque1> btw how is it going with the investors? I have to admit I'm a bit in the dark on everything that's going on with pitching them, etc. if you had some time to explain to me where things are blanchard and tartarugafeliz, it would help me 2011-09-27 15:38:23+0000 <blanchard> i'm nowhere yet on that side antoviaque1. Just updating some contacts and finishing bp and pitch. Then I'll be able to update you more. 2011-09-27 15:39:04+0000 <antoviaque1> what's blocking? 2011-09-27 15:39:15+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i still don't see the links 2011-09-27 15:39:36+0000 <blanchard> if you could just tell me how i can update any image then i think i can sort it out 2011-09-27 15:39:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what are the links missing? can you make a printscreen please? 2011-09-27 15:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on the panels page 2011-09-27 15:39:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you can also see another one with it called links 2011-09-27 15:40:12+0000 <blanchard> i don't know panels 2011-09-27 15:40:18+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: tartarugafeliz: maybe you should share one of your screens to sort it out 2011-09-27 15:40:25+0000 <blanchard> i'm looking at the links tab 2011-09-27 15:40:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap 2011-09-27 15:40:31+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i can send you a creen 2011-09-27 15:40:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's it 2011-09-27 15:40:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you found the links tab? 2011-09-27 15:40:51+0000 <antoviaque1> tartarugafeliz: I didn't mean a screenshot, more the actual desktop 2011-09-27 15:40:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> now you click on the name of the files that is missing 2011-09-27 15:41:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and then below there's a button that you can read when you're mouse over: Relink 2011-09-27 15:42:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you have skype blanchard? this way I can show you. 2011-09-27 15:42:13+0000 * blanchard looking 2011-09-27 15:42:23+0000 <blanchard> yep skype id = dapoona 2011-09-27 15:45:49+0000 <blanchard> was not so complicated after all :p 2011-09-27 15:45:57+0000 <blanchard> i'm too noob with indesign 2011-09-27 15:50:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahaahahah 2011-09-27 15:50:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, it was easy! better like that han? :) 2011-09-27 15:50:53+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i thought it was necessary to use the links thing. Bah :) 2011-09-27 15:51:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahah well, its more professional to do it this way :) 2011-09-27 15:51:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and if you're using an illustrator for the background for instance 2011-09-27 15:51:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its good to have them all there as a link otherwise it would be too heavy 2011-09-27 15:51:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and you can make the changes you need on them too 2011-09-27 15:51:41+0000 <blanchard> oki 2011-09-27 15:52:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and blanchard I think its only in French that we have space before the ":" no? 2011-09-27 15:53:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm deleting all the spaces! :P 2011-09-27 15:54:04+0000 <blanchard> hahaha most of my investors contacts are french, i need to create two versions ! 2011-09-27 15:54:18+0000 <blanchard> Oh no i don't finally i don't care :) 2011-09-27 15:54:45+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: you're talking about the pitch not the bp correct ? 2011-09-27 15:54:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap 2011-09-27 15:54:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-09-27 15:54:54+0000 <blanchard> haha 2011-09-27 15:54:55+0000 <antoviaque1> tartarugafeliz: would be good if you could devise a mini-training for the design ignoratis like us who want to contribute - it's interesting to learn this kind of things 2011-09-27 15:55:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahahahaha 2011-09-27 15:55:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> mini training 2011-09-27 15:55:10+0000 <blanchard> yeah i want in ! 2011-09-27 15:55:31+0000 <antoviaque1> or point to a good video/tutorial if you know one 2011-09-27 15:55:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> lynda.com helps a lot 2011-09-27 15:55:51+0000 <antoviaque1> it's true we have an account there for farsides 2011-09-27 15:55:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> seriously, I learned a lot there 2011-09-27 15:55:56+0000 <blanchard> that's good we have a subscription there :p 2011-09-27 15:56:09+0000 <antoviaque1> maybe you could put a list of the interestings ones on the wiki ? 2011-09-27 15:56:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and the videos for the adobe softwares are from beginners to advanced its really good 2011-09-27 15:56:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok, but they only teach how to use the softwares, is that what you want? 2011-09-27 15:56:58+0000 <antoviaque1> tartarugafeliz: you know better what's to know :) 2011-09-27 15:57:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because the creative part I don't know how to teach... 2011-09-27 15:57:14+0000 <antoviaque1> tsss tsss 2011-09-27 15:57:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it needs to come from inside you! 2011-09-27 15:57:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> plim!!! 2011-09-27 15:57:37+0000 <antoviaque1> I'm sure you can find some good references, you passed me good links when I was looking at design principles 2011-09-27 15:57:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> so you can also send the same links to everyone else! :) 2011-09-27 15:57:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's nice! 2011-09-27 15:58:07+0000 <antoviaque1> ahahah, no no no, I'm not going to do your work :p 2011-09-27 15:58:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> well I'm pretty busy at the moment, but I'll see what I can do 2011-09-27 15:58:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> my tip is don't wait for me! :D just go and explore! 2011-09-27 15:58:49+0000 <antoviaque1> yep, no rush, but would a good thing imho if we want to smooth the rough edges here 2011-09-27 15:59:06+0000 <antoviaque1> tartarugafeliz: it's in your interest too, otherwise we'll bother you :D 2011-09-27 15:59:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok ok can I work now? :D 2011-09-27 15:59:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> haahahahahah 2011-09-27 15:59:23+0000 <antoviaque1> yes, please do :D 2011-09-27 15:59:48+0000 <antoviaque1> :p 2011-09-27 16:00:47+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque1: why don't you have a look at my buddypress questions instead of harassing tartarugafeliz :p 2011-09-27 16:01:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeah go do something useful :DRA! 2011-09-27 16:01:10+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: sure : ) 2011-09-27 16:01:21+0000 <antoviaque1> reminds me of my question earlier about an ETA for funding :p 2011-09-27 16:02:32+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque1: it's not that i don't want to share, it's that there is nothing I can say yet. It 's like when you code something, before there's a first version of the feature it's difficult to talk about it ;) 2011-09-27 16:02:44+0000 <blanchard> My plan is to send the bp and pitch asap 2011-09-27 16:02:50+0000 <blanchard> and see the reactions 2011-09-27 16:02:58+0000 <blanchard> and tell you about it 2011-09-27 16:03:12+0000 <blanchard> (and meet the guys) 2011-09-27 16:04:13+0000 <antoviaque1> ok - what is there left before sending them the bp, aside from the images issue there was? 2011-09-27 16:06:03+0000 <blanchard> 1)proofreading (i sent the file to gramlee), 2)make CS profitable (there you can help me, 3) update a bit marketing (I've got a question for you on that in buddypress), 4) fix a few glitches here and there. 2011-09-27 16:06:30+0000 <blanchard> And part II : the pitch. Needs some polishing from my side once i receive it from Deb 2011-09-27 16:06:44+0000 <antoviaque1> ok, for 2) & 3) I'll answer the buddypress today yep 2011-09-27 16:07:05+0000 <blanchard> All in all, I hope all can be ok by the end of the week (only external dependancy is gramlee, supposed ot be 24h) 2011-09-27 16:07:27+0000 <antoviaque1> gramlee they deliver quickly usually - they haven't confirmed the deadline? 2011-09-27 16:07:29+0000 <blanchard> so if could send mails on friday it'd be cool 2011-09-27 16:07:50+0000 <blanchard> no their server is a mess. But the guy told me by mail that 24h it should be 2011-09-27 16:08:13+0000 <antoviaque1> ah, so should be fine - haven't used them in a long time, but back then they were efficient 2011-09-27 16:08:36+0000 <blanchard> yes, it's just that they have server issues currently :p 2011-09-27 16:09:13+0000 <antoviaque1> for part II (pitch), tartarugafeliz you said it would be ready today right? 2011-09-27 16:10:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes. 2011-09-27 16:10:34+0000 <antoviaque1> ok cool - sorry to be a pain, trying to see if there was a blocker I could help with 2011-09-27 16:23:39+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: re profitability => http://farsides.com/members/blanchard/activity/1613/ 2011-09-27 16:35:19+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-27 16:41:15+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque1: thx for the answer and agreed. Would you put the effort on keeping small both support and production ? 2011-09-27 16:41:59+0000 <antoviaque1> yep - ideally we would keep the team with its current members until profitability - the sooner we get there, the better imho 2011-09-27 16:42:22+0000 <antoviaque1> but not sure how many players that would require, so not sure if it is realistic to stay that small 2011-09-27 16:42:28+0000 <blanchard> we'll need a bit of support before that i guess 2011-09-27 16:42:41+0000 <antoviaque1> depends on the number of players 2011-09-27 16:43:08+0000 <antoviaque1> it will remove us the need to go run after money, which is not a small burden 2011-09-27 16:43:48+0000 <blanchard> and this is the position we want to assume in front of investors :) 2011-09-27 16:44:08+0000 <blanchard> ok then i'll see how this goes when i impact the big excel sheet 2011-09-27 16:44:24+0000 <antoviaque1> how many players would it be for the current team, as we were during the summer? 2011-09-27 16:47:37+0000 <antoviaque1> actually, a way to give us some margin would be to include our time in the equation - break even then becomes "when can we keep working on CS in a sustainable way?" 2011-09-27 16:47:45+0000 <blanchard> the summer ? 2011-09-27 16:47:49+0000 <antoviaque1> +eventually a bit of support depending on nb of players 2011-09-27 16:48:19+0000 <antoviaque1> yes, with arbrandes you deborah and me full time, mtyaka part time 2011-09-27 16:48:24+0000 <blanchard> ok 2011-09-27 16:48:51+0000 <blanchard> i'll need to see on the excel (i can't calculate the cohort directly here), i'll let you know 2011-09-27 16:49:22+0000 <antoviaque1> ok 2011-09-27 16:52:43+0000 <blanchard> bbl 2011-09-27 16:59:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> blanchard: the pitch is done 2011-09-27 16:59:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> inside of fund raising - august 2011 -> pitch 2011-09-27 16:59:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> theres the pdf and the indd if you wnt to make changes 2011-09-27 17:01:02+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: cool ! :) 2011-09-27 17:01:10+0000 <blanchard> thx a lot 2011-09-27 17:02:29+0000 <blanchard> i'll look tonight when i'm back from diner (hope i won't be too drunk though - as it's a friend about to get married) 2011-09-27 17:03:27+0000 <antoviaque1> oh oh, will be *very* interesting to discuss with you when you come back 2011-09-27 17:03:44+0000 * antoviaque1 is going to prepare a few difficult financials questions :p 2011-09-27 17:03:57+0000 <blanchard> i'm going to make a wonderful business plan tonight, i can feel it 2011-09-27 17:04:04+0000 <blanchard> hehe antoviaque1 :) 2011-09-27 17:07:04+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: there are even all the illustrators files ! too good ! 2011-09-27 17:07:16+0000 <blanchard> arf but it gives me some fonts issues 2011-09-27 17:09:54+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: some pages have a weird display. I think it's because of fonts. I sent you a screen by mail - can you give me a hand with that please ? 2011-09-27 17:12:28+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i'm looking at the pitch. Apart from this font issue, it looks really good. Thx ! 2011-09-27 17:18:46+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 17:32:40+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: answered on partnerships & beta http://farsides.com/members/antoviaque/activity/1574/ 2011-09-27 17:34:02+0000 <blanchard> thx antoviaque1 :) 2011-09-27 17:35:00+0000 <blanchard> ah btw there was a last thing i posted it's to know where i should report bugs about FS website (some links are broken) 2011-09-27 17:35:04+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque1: ^ 2011-09-27 17:35:37+0000 <antoviaque1> yep I saw the post - but I think for the website you can directly try to fix it in buddypress, you have the rights I think 2011-09-27 17:35:47+0000 <blanchard> huhu 2011-09-27 17:35:48+0000 <antoviaque1> unless it's a technical issue 2011-09-27 17:35:57+0000 <blanchard> I'll do that tonight when i'm drunk 2011-09-27 17:36:00+0000 <antoviaque1> hehehe 2011-09-27 17:36:04+0000 <blanchard> it's going to be so cool :p 2011-09-27 17:36:10+0000 <antoviaque1> that will be a funny night :p 2011-09-27 17:37:07+0000 <blanchard> imagine when we have a million players. You won't let a drunk person touch something like that anymore. 2011-09-27 17:38:02+0000 <blanchard> well the website is no big deal. What i want tonight is to make some quick fixes on the game server, nevrax like 2011-09-27 17:42:29+0000 <antoviaque1> ahahaha, that we'll try to avoid :p 2011-09-27 17:42:45+0000 <antoviaque1> but that's part of the fun, hey :p 2011-09-27 17:56:17+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: btw did you reply to david forgeron? *cleaning up his emails* 2011-09-27 17:56:45+0000 <blanchard> no not yet 2011-09-27 17:57:28+0000 <blanchard> actually i don't know why i had in mind that it was on your side :p my mistake i'll reply tomorrow 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-27 18:04:09+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online 2011-09-27 18:05:02+0000 <antoviaque1> ok : ) 2011-09-27 18:52:44+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-27 18:52:50+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-09-27 18:53:13+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now offline 2011-09-27 19:12:42+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-27 19:13:35+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-09-27 20:57:14+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-27 21:08:45+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
