Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-09-30.
2011-09-30 04:12:01+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2011-09-30 04:12:01+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online 2011-09-30 06:48:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-30 07:38:44+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-30 08:33:52+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online 2011-09-30 08:33:52+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2011-09-30 08:40:12+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online 2011-09-30 08:40:12+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2011-09-30 10:41:27+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-30 10:59:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-30 10:59:48+0000 <antoviaque> hey 2011-09-30 11:00:23+0000 <antoviaque> just a quick word - not sure we'll be on time for the meeting of 2pm. We just went back home, and one of the cats is dead : ( 2011-09-30 11:00:55+0000 <antoviaque> So we're taking care of this - if someone can take on the meeting, it would help 2011-09-30 11:45:33+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-09-30 11:58:50+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-30 12:04:21+0000 <mtyaka> hi dudes... meting? :) 2011-09-30 12:06:18+0000 <mtyaka> i'm late for lunch, i'll come back a bit later 2011-09-30 12:12:50+0000 <antoviaque> hi 2011-09-30 12:13:10+0000 <antoviaque> sorry, I tried to warn but I don't think anybody saw 2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (12:59:49 PM) antoviaque: hey 2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (01:00:24 PM) antoviaque: just a quick word - not sure we'll be on time for the meeting of 2pm. We just went back home, and one of the cats is dead : ( 2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (01:00:56 PM) antoviaque: So we're taking care of this - if someone can take on the meeting, it would help 2011-09-30 12:13:28+0000 <antoviaque> but I'm there now, we can do the meeting 2011-09-30 12:13:38+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting 2011-09-30 12:13:38+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-09-30 12:15:50+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I think I'll go first then ;p 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Debugging & testing of Plebia v2 - cf http://polaris.plebia.org/ , it's starting to work a bit : ) (download of items in progress) 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Done: Debugging & testing of Plebia v2 - cf http://polaris.plebia.org/ , it's starting to work a bit : ) (download of items in progress) 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss content of alpha9 with arbrandes, more testing on Plebia 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss content of alpha9 with arbrandes, more testing on Plebia 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None 2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-09-30 12:17:12+0000 <arbrandes> sorry about the cat, antoviaque 2011-09-30 12:17:19+0000 <arbrandes> sorry I'm late, too :P 2011-09-30 12:17:32+0000 <antoviaque> thanks - was quite a shock, it was very young :/ 2011-09-30 12:17:47+0000 <antoviaque> and np for the time - I'm late too :) 2011-09-30 12:18:45+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday not much again, I hope I can catch up today. 2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Done: not much again, I hope I can catch up today 2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today will again try put up bananas on first sprint stories, try to start on the first one (game notifications), do mtyaka's reviews. 2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Next: will again try put up bananas on first sprint stories, try to start on the first one (game notifications), do mtyaka's reviews 2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers none! 2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-09-30 12:19:21+0000 <antoviaque> thanks arbrandes 2011-09-30 12:19:45+0000 <arbrandes> np 2011-09-30 12:20:32+0000 <antoviaque> btw I know this week is a bit of a trial & crazy for you - if there is anything in the organization that we can change to help you, don't hesitate 2011-09-30 12:21:16+0000 <antoviaque> (err, just saw that the URL for plebia is wrong, it's http://media.plebia.org above) 2011-09-30 12:22:15+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: also, if there is code that isn't too difficult for me, don't hesitate, I'd gladly (try to) help 2011-09-30 12:24:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, cool, thanks! As far as lending a hand, I know you prefer working with CSS stuff - any design fix you can take care of (http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/484) will be great. :) 2011-09-30 12:25:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll try to have a look at those, and catch up a bit with the code base :) 2011-09-30 12:26:21+0000 <antoviaque> btw not necessarily CSS - it's more a matter of difficulty & avoiding complex architecture issues 2011-09-30 12:27:00+0000 <antoviaque> which is the part where I'm not very confident in a very well designed archi like CS - I always break up stuff and do it wrong :) 2011-09-30 12:27:33+0000 * antoviaque is a "sunday coder" like we say in French :p 2011-09-30 12:28:00+0000 <mtyaka> hi, i'm back 2011-09-30 12:28:01+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe, "sunday coder", lol, your work is pretty good for the weekdays too, from what I've seen 2011-09-30 12:28:04+0000 <antoviaque> hey mtyaka! 2011-09-30 12:28:05+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-09-30 12:28:06+0000 <mtyaka> sorry to hear about the cat, antoviaque :( 2011-09-30 12:28:44+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks - that's kind of you. Quite a bad return surprise :/ 2011-09-30 12:29:15+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahah, wait until you put your nose in Plebia, you'll run for your life :p 2011-09-30 12:30:01+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: something for eve on your side? :) 2011-09-30 12:30:34+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I reviewed remaining tasks from arbrandes' "ready for review" queue and went through open tasks in the tracker 2011-09-30 12:30:34+0000 <eve> Done: I reviewed remaining tasks from arbrandes' "ready for review" queue and went through open tasks in the tracker 2011-09-30 12:30:36+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I will try to take on a small task, perhaps #460 (beautiful loading bar) 2011-09-30 12:30:36+0000 <eve> Next: I will try to take on a small task, perhaps #460 (beautiful loading bar) 2011-09-30 12:30:37+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None 2011-09-30 12:30:37+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-09-30 12:30:58+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ahhh, yey!! this loading bar is going to be awesome 2011-09-30 12:31:07+0000 <antoviaque> did you see what tartaruga did for it? :) 2011-09-30 12:31:44+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, not yet 2011-09-30 12:31:54+0000 <mtyaka> but i read it's a tongue so it's got to be awesome :) 2011-09-30 12:31:57+0000 <arbrandes> In any case, antoviaque, if you want to tackle anything, go right ahead - I just don't recommend the notification of new games on the chat, not because you couldn't do it, but because it'll probably take a long time (as it will take me) and interfere with Plebia 2011-09-30 12:31:59+0000 <mtyaka> will take a peek now 2011-09-30 12:32:10+0000 <antoviaque> on the other side it would be good to talk a bit about the next tasks right after this meeting - there are a few critical tasks still on the way before we can bring players 2011-09-30 12:32:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, this one is too tricky for me imho 2011-09-30 12:33:51+0000 <antoviaque> btw http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=16 for the stories sorted by priority - the red ones are the ones blocking 2011-09-30 12:35:40+0000 <antoviaque> ah and this one too, that has lost its priority when tartaruga created the related task: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/503 2011-09-30 12:36:12+0000 <antoviaque> actually I could try to take on #503 before the graphical glitches 2011-09-30 12:36:35+0000 * arbrandes looking 2011-09-30 12:36:57+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe, "it will break apart and make you curse" 2011-09-30 12:37:03+0000 <arbrandes> nothing like honesty 2011-09-30 12:37:05+0000 <arbrandes> ;) 2011-09-30 12:37:12+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-09-30 12:37:23+0000 <arbrandes> sounds good to me, antoviaque 2011-09-30 12:37:33+0000 <antoviaque> ok :) 2011-09-30 12:38:46+0000 <antoviaque> so you'll be taking care of the game notification/chat stories right arbrandes? if so there is #451, #25, #502 and #503 to split between you and me mtyaka 2011-09-30 12:39:05+0000 * antoviaque impatient to get players :p 2011-09-30 12:39:11+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I've been trying to figure out a solution in the shower for a few days, now, hehehe 2011-09-30 12:39:27+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe - was the shower of good inspiration? :) 2011-09-30 12:40:21+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, yes, I think: I'll probably have the client parse the chat messages and perform substitution on certain "{strings}", if I can't get the server to build the whole URL. 2011-09-30 12:40:53+0000 <arbrandes> Anyway... I'll figure something out when I start coding. 2011-09-30 12:41:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok, good luck :) 2011-09-30 12:42:08+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: let me know when you want to have a look at the other blocking stories to split up the work 2011-09-30 12:48:08+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: #451 is marked "ready for review" - is there still something missing? 2011-09-30 12:48:18+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-09-30 12:48:48+0000 <antoviaque> ahh true - arbrandes updated the fix, I need to try it 2011-09-30 12:48:51+0000 <antoviaque> all good for that one 2011-09-30 12:49:42+0000 <mtyaka> cool, so there is only #25, #502, and #503 left 2011-09-30 12:50:27+0000 <mtyaka> #503 is easy, but the other two require touching the server-side 2011-09-30 12:51:21+0000 <mtyaka> which is a bit of a problem, because i never worked with the CS server code so far... 2011-09-30 12:51:41+0000 <mtyaka> it might take a while before i understand it (especially because i don't really know twisted) 2011-09-30 12:52:21+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, nobody really knows twisted 2011-09-30 12:52:23+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh 2011-09-30 12:52:24+0000 <mtyaka> (although it could be that the bugs from #502 are trivial) 2011-09-30 12:52:35+0000 <mtyaka> hahaha 2011-09-30 12:52:56+0000 <mtyaka> put it another way: i have never worked with twisted before :) 2011-09-30 12:53:05+0000 <arbrandes> In part because the documentation sucks A$$ 2011-09-30 12:53:50+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, i've noticed the documentation is a bit poor :( 2011-09-30 12:54:29+0000 <arbrandes> One has to rely on either scarce and poorly written blog posts, or the code itself, hehehehe 2011-09-30 12:55:03+0000 <arbrandes> It's a very flexible tool, don't get me wrong, it's just a bit obscure 2011-09-30 12:55:52+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: did you take a look at #498 and #499? any idea is it something trivial or will it require deep understanding of server side CS architecture and/or twisted? 2011-09-30 12:56:21+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, the twisted APIs scare me off... 2011-09-30 12:56:41+0000 <arbrandes> man, those two will be the hardest ones 2011-09-30 12:56:51+0000 <mtyaka> damn :( 2011-09-30 12:56:54+0000 <arbrandes> I have absolutely no idea when/why/how they happened 2011-09-30 12:58:47+0000 <arbrandes> well, not ZERO idea on #498, it's possibly a client-side issue: "GET /[email protected]%x%game_id=undefined& 2011-09-30 12:59:05+0000 <arbrandes> game_id=undefined may be something the server doesn't like, heheheh 2011-09-30 12:59:23+0000 <mtyaka> heh, right 2011-09-30 12:59:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: those bugs seem to happen rarely - I've put them here since it's usually easier to tackle them when we find them, but if it's on a part nobody knows we can wait to see when people reproduce them 2011-09-30 12:59:44+0000 <arbrandes> not sure how to work around it though: this is one of the new "poll_plugin" calls 2011-09-30 12:59:57+0000 <arbrandes> Where there might be no game in progress 2011-09-30 12:59:57+0000 <mtyaka> the %x% also looks strange to me 2011-09-30 13:00:04+0000 <arbrandes> yup, very strange, hehehe 2011-09-30 13:00:15+0000 <mtyaka> x%x% rather... 2011-09-30 13:01:00+0000 <arbrandes> ahmm, scratch all that 2011-09-30 13:01:04+0000 <arbrandes> that poll came later 2011-09-30 13:01:40+0000 <arbrandes> the one that matters is: GET /resource?action=complete&[email protected]%x%game_id=7 2011-09-30 13:02:05+0000 <mtyaka> hmm... 2011-09-30 13:03:07+0000 <arbrandes> back to square 1, no idea 2011-09-30 13:03:19+0000 <arbrandes> probably a race condition :/ 2011-09-30 13:03:44+0000 <arbrandes> which is weird, because this was the author completing the game 2011-09-30 13:03:50+0000 <arbrandes> Oh well... 2011-09-30 13:04:09+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: fyi I've just credited the stumbleupon account with $100, to get through the approval process while we're getting ready 2011-09-30 13:04:21+0000 <arbrandes> The x%x% certainly don't look too good 2011-09-30 13:05:02+0000 <mtyaka> heh, yeah... i'll try to figure out how the x%x% got in there 2011-09-30 13:05:57+0000 <mtyaka> although, since the code around polling/server interaction has changed a lot since then.... we can hope that the bug has already been fixed :) 2011-09-30 13:06:47+0000 <mtyaka> it might make sense to wait until/if it occurs again 2011-09-30 13:08:49+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I have to go back to the vet for the cat, I'll be back later this afternoon 2011-09-30 13:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you take on of the bugs then? 2011-09-30 13:09:39+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, i'll see what i can do 2011-09-30 13:09:42+0000 <antoviaque> #498? 2011-09-30 13:09:45+0000 <antoviaque> ok, thanks : ) 2011-09-30 13:09:53+0000 <mtyaka> yes 2011-09-30 13:10:03+0000 <mtyaka> if it turns out too complicated, i'll probably back off 2011-09-30 13:10:33+0000 <arbrandes> roger mtyaka, any doubts, just ping me 2011-09-30 13:10:46+0000 <mtyaka> thanks, arbrandes :) 2011-09-30 13:10:47+0000 <antoviaque> yep, sounds like a good compromise - then we can certainly wait to have complete reproduction steps 2011-09-30 13:11:04+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to both of you! 2011-09-30 13:11:14+0000 <arbrandes> np :) 2011-09-30 14:18:43+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-30 17:00:27+0000 <blanchard> back 2011-09-30 17:00:45+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: sorry to hear about your cat :( 2011-09-30 17:53:41+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-30 18:01:34+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: around ? 2011-09-30 18:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: thanks - it's Niko btw, since you knew it 2011-09-30 18:47:39+0000 <antoviaque> and yep I'm around 2011-09-30 18:59:18+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-09-30 19:14:27+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-30 22:12:29+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: it seems that i can't access buddypress groups when i'm logged 2011-09-30 22:13:04+0000 <blanchard> blank page once i'm logged 2011-09-30 22:13:23+0000 <blanchard> i looked at a possible cache issue but it does not seem to be _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/

