Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-09-30.


2011-09-30 04:12:01+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-09-30 04:12:01+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online
2011-09-30 06:48:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-09-30 07:38:44+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online
2011-09-30 08:33:52+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online
2011-09-30 08:33:52+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-09-30 08:40:12+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online
2011-09-30 08:40:12+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-09-30 10:41:27+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online
2011-09-30 10:59:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-09-30 10:59:48+0000 <antoviaque> hey
2011-09-30 11:00:23+0000 <antoviaque> just a quick word - not sure we'll be on 
time for the meeting of 2pm. We just went back home, and one of the cats is 
dead : (
2011-09-30 11:00:55+0000 <antoviaque> So we're taking care of this - if someone 
can take on the meeting, it would help
2011-09-30 11:45:33+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-09-30 11:58:50+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-09-30 12:04:21+0000 <mtyaka> hi dudes... meting? :)
2011-09-30 12:06:18+0000 <mtyaka> i'm late for lunch, i'll come back a bit later
2011-09-30 12:12:50+0000 <antoviaque> hi
2011-09-30 12:13:10+0000 <antoviaque> sorry, I tried to warn but I don't think 
anybody saw
2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (12:59:49 PM) antoviaque: hey
2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (01:00:24 PM) antoviaque: just a quick 
word - not sure we'll be on time for the meeting of 2pm. We just went back 
home, and one of the cats is dead : (
2011-09-30 12:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> (01:00:56 PM) antoviaque: So we're taking 
care of this - if someone can take on the meeting, it would help
2011-09-30 12:13:28+0000 <antoviaque> but I'm there now, we can do the meeting
2011-09-30 12:13:38+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting
2011-09-30 12:13:38+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-09-30 12:15:50+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I think I'll go first then ;p
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Debugging & testing of 
Plebia v2 - cf http://polaris.plebia.org/ , it's starting to work a bit : ) 
(download of items in progress)
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Done: Debugging & testing of Plebia v2 - cf 
http://polaris.plebia.org/ , it's starting to work a bit : ) (download of items 
in progress)
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss content of alpha9 with 
arbrandes, more testing on Plebia
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss content of alpha9 with arbrandes, 
more testing on Plebia
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2011-09-30 12:15:58+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-09-30 12:17:12+0000 <arbrandes> sorry about the cat, antoviaque 
2011-09-30 12:17:19+0000 <arbrandes> sorry I'm late, too :P
2011-09-30 12:17:32+0000 <antoviaque> thanks - was quite a shock, it was very 
young :/
2011-09-30 12:17:47+0000 <antoviaque> and np for the time - I'm late too :)
2011-09-30 12:18:45+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday not much again, I hope I 
can catch up today.
2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Done: not much again, I hope I can catch up today
2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today will again try put up bananas 
on first sprint stories, try to start on the first one (game notifications), do 
mtyaka's reviews.
2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Next: will again try put up bananas on first 
sprint stories, try to start on the first one (game notifications), do mtyaka's 
reviews
2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers none!
2011-09-30 12:18:46+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-09-30 12:19:21+0000 <antoviaque> thanks arbrandes
2011-09-30 12:19:45+0000 <arbrandes> np
2011-09-30 12:20:32+0000 <antoviaque> btw I know this week is a bit of a trial 
& crazy for you - if there is anything in the organization that we can change 
to help you, don't hesitate
2011-09-30 12:21:16+0000 <antoviaque> (err, just saw that the URL for plebia is 
wrong, it's http://media.plebia.org above)
2011-09-30 12:22:15+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: also, if there is code that 
isn't too difficult for me, don't hesitate, I'd gladly (try  to) help
2011-09-30 12:24:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, cool, thanks!  As far as 
lending a hand, I know you prefer working with CSS stuff - any design fix you 
can take care of (http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/484) will be great. :)
2011-09-30 12:25:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll try to have a look at those, and 
catch up a bit with the code base :)
2011-09-30 12:26:21+0000 <antoviaque> btw not necessarily CSS - it's more a 
matter of difficulty & avoiding complex architecture issues
2011-09-30 12:27:00+0000 <antoviaque> which is the part where I'm not very 
confident in a very well designed archi like CS - I always break up stuff and 
do it wrong :)
2011-09-30 12:27:33+0000 * antoviaque is a "sunday coder" like we say in French 
:p
2011-09-30 12:28:00+0000 <mtyaka> hi, i'm back
2011-09-30 12:28:01+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe, "sunday coder", lol, your work 
is pretty good for the weekdays too, from what I've seen
2011-09-30 12:28:04+0000 <antoviaque> hey mtyaka!
2011-09-30 12:28:05+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-09-30 12:28:06+0000 <mtyaka> sorry to hear about the cat, antoviaque :(
2011-09-30 12:28:44+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks - that's kind of you. 
Quite a bad return surprise :/
2011-09-30 12:29:15+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahah, wait until you put your 
nose in Plebia, you'll run for your life :p
2011-09-30 12:30:01+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: something for eve on your side? :)
2011-09-30 12:30:34+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I reviewed remaining tasks 
from arbrandes' "ready for review" queue and went through open tasks in the 
tracker
2011-09-30 12:30:34+0000 <eve> Done: I reviewed remaining tasks from arbrandes' 
"ready for review" queue and went through open tasks in the tracker
2011-09-30 12:30:36+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I will try to take on a small 
task, perhaps #460 (beautiful loading bar)
2011-09-30 12:30:36+0000 <eve> Next: I will try to take on a small task, 
perhaps #460 (beautiful loading bar)
2011-09-30 12:30:37+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None
2011-09-30 12:30:37+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-09-30 12:30:58+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ahhh, yey!! this loading bar is 
going to be awesome
2011-09-30 12:31:07+0000 <antoviaque> did you see what tartaruga did for it? :)
2011-09-30 12:31:44+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, not yet
2011-09-30 12:31:54+0000 <mtyaka> but i read it's a tongue so it's got to be 
awesome :)
2011-09-30 12:31:57+0000 <arbrandes> In any case, antoviaque, if you want to 
tackle anything, go right ahead - I just don't recommend the notification of 
new games on the chat, not because you couldn't do it, but because it'll 
probably take a long time (as it will take me) and interfere with Plebia 
2011-09-30 12:31:59+0000 <mtyaka> will take a peek now
2011-09-30 12:32:10+0000 <antoviaque> on the other side it would be good to 
talk a bit about the next tasks right after this meeting - there are a few 
critical tasks still on the way before we can bring players
2011-09-30 12:32:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, this one is too tricky 
for me imho
2011-09-30 12:33:51+0000 <antoviaque> btw 
http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=16 for the 
stories sorted by priority - the red ones are the ones blocking
2011-09-30 12:35:40+0000 <antoviaque> ah and this one too, that has lost its 
priority when tartaruga created the related task: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/503
2011-09-30 12:36:12+0000 <antoviaque> actually I could try to take on #503 
before the graphical glitches
2011-09-30 12:36:35+0000 * arbrandes looking
2011-09-30 12:36:57+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe, "it will break apart and make 
you curse"
2011-09-30 12:37:03+0000 <arbrandes> nothing like honesty
2011-09-30 12:37:05+0000 <arbrandes> ;)
2011-09-30 12:37:12+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-09-30 12:37:23+0000 <arbrandes> sounds good to me, antoviaque
2011-09-30 12:37:33+0000 <antoviaque> ok :)
2011-09-30 12:38:46+0000 <antoviaque> so you'll be taking care of the game 
notification/chat stories right arbrandes? if so there is #451, #25, #502 and 
#503 to split between you and me mtyaka
2011-09-30 12:39:05+0000 * antoviaque impatient to get players :p
2011-09-30 12:39:11+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I've been trying to figure out a 
solution in the shower for a few days, now, hehehe
2011-09-30 12:39:27+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe - was the shower of good 
inspiration? :)
2011-09-30 12:40:21+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, yes, I think: I'll probably have 
the client parse the chat messages and perform substitution on certain 
"{strings}", if I can't get the server to build the whole URL.
2011-09-30 12:40:53+0000 <arbrandes> Anyway... I'll figure something out when I 
start coding.
2011-09-30 12:41:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok, good luck :)
2011-09-30 12:42:08+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: let me know when you want to have 
a look at the other blocking stories to split up the work
2011-09-30 12:48:08+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: #451 is marked "ready for review" 
- is there still something missing?
2011-09-30 12:48:18+0000 <antoviaque> let me see
2011-09-30 12:48:48+0000 <antoviaque> ahh true - arbrandes updated the fix, I 
need to try it
2011-09-30 12:48:51+0000 <antoviaque> all good for that one
2011-09-30 12:49:42+0000 <mtyaka> cool, so there is only #25, #502, and #503 
left
2011-09-30 12:50:27+0000 <mtyaka> #503 is easy, but the other two require 
touching the server-side
2011-09-30 12:51:21+0000 <mtyaka> which is a bit of a problem, because i never 
worked with the CS server code so far...
2011-09-30 12:51:41+0000 <mtyaka> it might take a while before i understand it 
(especially because i don't really know twisted)
2011-09-30 12:52:21+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, nobody really knows twisted
2011-09-30 12:52:23+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh
2011-09-30 12:52:24+0000 <mtyaka> (although it could be that the bugs from #502 
are trivial)
2011-09-30 12:52:35+0000 <mtyaka> hahaha
2011-09-30 12:52:56+0000 <mtyaka> put it another way: i have never worked with 
twisted before :)
2011-09-30 12:53:05+0000 <arbrandes> In part because the documentation sucks A$$
2011-09-30 12:53:50+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, i've noticed the documentation is a bit 
poor :(
2011-09-30 12:54:29+0000 <arbrandes> One has to rely on either scarce and 
poorly written blog posts, or the code itself, hehehehe
2011-09-30 12:55:03+0000 <arbrandes> It's a very flexible tool, don't get me 
wrong, it's just a bit obscure
2011-09-30 12:55:52+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: did you take a look at #498 and 
#499? any idea is it something trivial or will it require deep understanding of 
server side CS architecture and/or twisted?
2011-09-30 12:56:21+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, the twisted APIs scare me off...
2011-09-30 12:56:41+0000 <arbrandes> man, those two will be the hardest ones
2011-09-30 12:56:51+0000 <mtyaka> damn :(
2011-09-30 12:56:54+0000 <arbrandes> I have absolutely no idea when/why/how 
they happened
2011-09-30 12:58:47+0000 <arbrandes> well, not ZERO idea on #498, it's possibly 
a client-side issue: "GET 
/[email protected]%x%game_id=undefined&
2011-09-30 12:59:05+0000 <arbrandes> game_id=undefined may be something the 
server doesn't like, heheheh
2011-09-30 12:59:23+0000 <mtyaka> heh, right
2011-09-30 12:59:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: those bugs seem to happen 
rarely - I've put them here since it's usually easier to tackle them when we 
find them, but if it's on a part nobody knows we can wait to see when people 
reproduce them
2011-09-30 12:59:44+0000 <arbrandes> not sure how to work around it though:  
this is one of the new "poll_plugin" calls
2011-09-30 12:59:57+0000 <arbrandes> Where there might be no game in progress
2011-09-30 12:59:57+0000 <mtyaka> the %x% also looks strange to me
2011-09-30 13:00:04+0000 <arbrandes> yup, very strange, hehehe
2011-09-30 13:00:15+0000 <mtyaka> x%x% rather...
2011-09-30 13:01:00+0000 <arbrandes> ahmm, scratch all that
2011-09-30 13:01:04+0000 <arbrandes> that poll came later
2011-09-30 13:01:40+0000 <arbrandes> the one that matters is: GET 
/resource?action=complete&[email protected]%x%game_id=7
2011-09-30 13:02:05+0000 <mtyaka> hmm...
2011-09-30 13:03:07+0000 <arbrandes> back to square 1, no idea
2011-09-30 13:03:19+0000 <arbrandes> probably a race condition :/
2011-09-30 13:03:44+0000 <arbrandes> which is weird, because this was the 
author completing the game
2011-09-30 13:03:50+0000 <arbrandes> Oh well...
2011-09-30 13:04:09+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: fyi I've just credited the 
stumbleupon account with $100, to get through the approval process while we're 
getting ready 
2011-09-30 13:04:21+0000 <arbrandes> The x%x% certainly don't look too good
2011-09-30 13:05:02+0000 <mtyaka> heh, yeah... i'll try to figure out how the 
x%x% got in there
2011-09-30 13:05:57+0000 <mtyaka> although, since the code around 
polling/server interaction has changed a lot since then.... we can hope that 
the bug has already been fixed :)
2011-09-30 13:06:47+0000 <mtyaka> it might make sense to wait until/if it 
occurs again
2011-09-30 13:08:49+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I have to go back to the vet for the 
cat, I'll be back later this afternoon
2011-09-30 13:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you take on of the bugs then?
2011-09-30 13:09:39+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, i'll see what i can do
2011-09-30 13:09:42+0000 <antoviaque> #498?
2011-09-30 13:09:45+0000 <antoviaque> ok, thanks : )
2011-09-30 13:09:53+0000 <mtyaka> yes
2011-09-30 13:10:03+0000 <mtyaka> if it turns out too complicated, i'll 
probably back off
2011-09-30 13:10:33+0000 <arbrandes> roger mtyaka, any doubts, just ping me
2011-09-30 13:10:46+0000 <mtyaka> thanks, arbrandes :)
2011-09-30 13:10:47+0000 <antoviaque> yep, sounds like a good compromise - then 
we can certainly wait to have complete reproduction steps
2011-09-30 13:11:04+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to both of you!
2011-09-30 13:11:14+0000 <arbrandes> np :)
2011-09-30 14:18:43+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-09-30 17:00:27+0000 <blanchard> back
2011-09-30 17:00:45+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: sorry to hear about your cat :(
2011-09-30 17:53:41+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-09-30 18:01:34+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: around ?
2011-09-30 18:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: thanks - it's Niko btw, since 
you knew it
2011-09-30 18:47:39+0000 <antoviaque> and yep I'm around
2011-09-30 18:59:18+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-09-30 19:14:27+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-09-30 22:12:29+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: it seems that i can't access 
buddypress groups when i'm logged
2011-09-30 22:13:04+0000 <blanchard> blank page once i'm logged
2011-09-30 22:13:23+0000 <blanchard> i looked at a possible cache issue but it 
does not seem to be
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