Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-11-17.


2011-11-17 07:26:31+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now offline
2011-11-17 08:17:41+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-17 09:29:54+0000 dachary1 (dachary1) is now online
2011-11-17 10:55:15+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-11-17 13:30:34+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2011-11-17 13:30:39+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: start dailymeeting
2011-11-17 13:30:40+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-11-17 13:30:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I worked on my 
freelancer
2011-11-17 13:30:59+0000 <eve> Done: I worked on my freelancer
2011-11-17 13:30:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'm working on my 
freelancer again, but I'm around if you need anything.
2011-11-17 13:30:59+0000 <eve> Next: I'm working on my freelancer again, but 
I'm around if you need anything
2011-11-17 13:30:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none
2011-11-17 13:31:00+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-11-17 13:31:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello!!! :D
2011-11-17 13:31:07+0000 <antoviaque> hey tartarugafeliz ;p
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday 121 with mtyaka, tried 
higher traffic experiment again (settings were a bit too high - we got 1K 
players arriving all at once which CS didn't hold - will try again to be more 
along a few hundreds), Plebia (worked on series completion reporting some more, 
along with torrent search optimization)
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <eve> Done: 121 with mtyaka, tried higher traffic 
experiment again (settings were a bit too high - we got 1K players arriving all 
at once which CS didn't hold - will try again to be more along a few hundreds), 
Plebia (worked on series completion reporting some more, along with torrent 
search optimization)
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Higher CS traffic experiment 
#3, Plebia as time allows (reporting/optimization)
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <eve> Next: Higher CS traffic experiment #3, Plebia as 
time allows (reporting/optimization)
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2011-11-17 13:31:33+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-11-17 13:31:57+0000 <antoviaque> uh, looks like there isn't a lot of 
people around today :/
2011-11-17 13:32:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap
2011-11-17 13:32:19+0000 <antoviaque> grmlll
2011-11-17 13:45:43+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-11-17 13:47:15+0000 <antoviaque> hey mtyaka : )
2011-11-17 13:47:32+0000 <mtyaka> hi... I guess I missed the meeting?
2011-11-17 13:51:58+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep, but you can still go ahead, 
I didn't stop eve : )
2011-11-17 13:52:11+0000 <antoviaque> and this way you'll get the log too
2011-11-17 13:52:27+0000 <mtyaka> excellent...
2011-11-17 13:53:29+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Fixed #446 (Anonymous view 
shouldn't see win/lost illustration).
2011-11-17 13:53:29+0000 <eve> Done: Fixed #446 (Anonymous view shouldn't see 
win/lost illustration)
2011-11-17 13:53:31+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Probably no time to work, but 
would still like to find the next task to work on.
2011-11-17 13:53:31+0000 <eve> Next: Probably no time to work, but would still 
like to find the next task to work on
2011-11-17 13:53:32+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None.
2011-11-17 13:53:32+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-11-17 13:53:59+0000 <mtyaka> After I commited #446, I had a second thought 
about leaving the "Play again" button there for the anonymous view
2011-11-17 13:54:37+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: did you take it off or leave it?
2011-11-17 13:54:49+0000 <mtyaka> I left it there
2011-11-17 13:55:20+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: good idea yep, those who missed a 
vote/pick could still like to play
2011-11-17 13:55:42+0000 <antoviaque> not sure how it looks to only have this 
button, but if tartarugafeliz wants to improve it she will be able to ;p
2011-11-17 13:56:05+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: and cool that this bug is fixed : 
)
2011-11-17 13:56:13+0000 <mtyaka> That was what I was thinking, yup. It doesn't 
look that great, but I guess it wouldn't be hard to improve the looks, maybe 
just move it a bit higher.
2011-11-17 13:56:23+0000 <mtyaka> yup... :)
2011-11-17 13:56:26+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-11-17 13:56:34+0000 <mtyaka> So what do you think I can work on next?
2011-11-17 13:56:39+0000 <antoviaque> let me see
2011-11-17 13:56:53+0000 <mtyaka> I checked the bugs from the current sprint
2011-11-17 13:57:19+0000 <mtyaka> The only one still opened and not assigned to 
dachary is the missing font one
2011-11-17 13:57:47+0000 <mtyaka> (there's two UnicodeEncodeErrors, but I guess 
those are probably related and dachary is assigned to one)
2011-11-17 13:58:39+0000 * antoviaque closes #588 which was done on Tuesday
2011-11-17 13:59:08+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: #587 is more recent, I don't 
think dachary even saw it
2011-11-17 13:59:34+0000 <antoviaque> but not sure if he still wants to take 
care of that, he has his plate pretty full with the stats
2011-11-17 13:59:51+0000 <mtyaka> Oh, ok. I can take a look then.
2011-11-17 14:00:40+0000 <mtyaka> Is the exception only visible in the logs, or 
does it break the client, too?
2011-11-17 14:00:43+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: I could be wrong though - if you 
want to play it safe the font is better, but on the other side the risk of 
duplicating work on the unicode is pretty low imho, would be fine with me
2011-11-17 14:01:14+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: was visible from the client of 
the person posting it if I remember correctly - didn't get it when I just saw 
the chat log
2011-11-17 14:01:15+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ok
2011-11-17 14:01:42+0000 <mtyaka> ok, it should be easy enough to duplicate
2011-11-17 14:01:48+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-11-17 14:02:44+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I remember seeing a task to color 
the GM seat red/green in the results phase. It's not in the current sprint, but 
it should be super easy to do.
2011-11-17 14:03:04+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: true, I remember something about 
this too
2011-11-17 14:03:06+0000 <antoviaque> let me check
2011-11-17 14:04:02+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, can't find the task - was probably 
not created (or I did a mistake)
2011-11-17 14:05:07+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: if you want to add it as a bug to 
the story, go ahead, it's true it would be good
2011-11-17 14:06:03+0000 <mtyaka> I'll probably do that then, thanks!
2011-11-17 14:10:01+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-11-17 14:10:06+0000 <antoviaque> ok, dachary and blanchard being both 
travelling today, I think we're done with the meeting
2011-11-17 14:10:12+0000 <antoviaque> thanks!
2011-11-17 14:10:18+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: end dailymeeting
2011-11-17 14:10:19+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-11-17 14:10:19+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/509216
2011-11-17 15:09:37+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-17 15:13:22+0000 MCMic1 (MCMic1) is now online
2011-11-17 15:33:43+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-17 16:44:18+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-17 17:06:52+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-11-17 17:33:12+0000 <mtyaka> Hi tartarugafeliz! In order to finish #600, I 
need to have win/lost versions of the game master's seat - I created a task and 
assigned you to it (http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/601). I'm not in a hurry 
- whenever you can have some spare time will be great.
2011-11-17 17:34:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok!! :D
2011-11-17 17:34:52+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :)
2011-11-17 17:59:20+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-17 18:07:48+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: according to munin the machine 
held up
2011-11-17 18:07:53+0000 <dachary> did it really ? 
2011-11-17 18:07:58+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: it did : )
2011-11-17 18:08:02+0000 <dachary> \o/
2011-11-17 18:08:07+0000 <antoviaque> congratz, we never had so many players in 
game ;p
2011-11-17 18:08:30+0000 <dachary> munin shows iowait
2011-11-17 18:08:51+0000 <dachary> that will be the next bottleneck IMHO
2011-11-17 18:08:53+0000 <antoviaque> yesterday it halted, but it's because 
there was 1K players in a very short timeframe - today I manage to put it 
around 500 max at a time, it went very well
2011-11-17 18:09:12+0000 <dachary> hum
2011-11-17 18:09:19+0000 <dachary> halted why ? 
2011-11-17 18:09:39+0000 <antoviaque> not sure - it stopped responding for 
about 30s
2011-11-17 18:10:06+0000 <antoviaque> but it's insane traffic for our size 
right now, it was too large
2011-11-17 18:10:11+0000 <dachary> 1024 is a magic number when it comes to FD
2011-11-17 18:11:10+0000 <dachary> I think the logs are very hard on the disk
2011-11-17 18:11:17+0000 <dachary> there are *lots* of logs
2011-11-17 18:11:23+0000 <dachary> and that kills the disk real fast
2011-11-17 18:11:44+0000 <antoviaque> right now the bottleneck starts to be to 
play enough games at a time, when there is a lot of new players but they aren't 
used to join other people's games yet : )
2011-11-17 18:11:57+0000 <dachary> true
2011-11-17 18:12:01+0000 <antoviaque> I see
2011-11-17 18:12:20+0000 <dachary> I'm glad it holds 
2011-11-17 18:12:31+0000 <antoviaque> actually it made me think that, between 
that and the times where no one is around, you may have had a point when you 
talked about bots some time ago
2011-11-17 18:12:32+0000 <dachary> good evening => out for social event
2011-11-17 18:12:38+0000 <antoviaque> have fun : )
2011-11-17 18:12:54+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: reactivate the solo mode ? 
2011-11-17 18:13:10+0000 <dachary> let's talk about it later, I'll be late ;-)
2011-11-17 18:13:18+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: yep - but we'd need to adapt to 
the current workflow
2011-11-17 18:13:28+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I'll think more and talk about it 
again for sure : )
2011-11-17 18:13:32+0000 <antoviaque> tchuss
2011-11-17 18:29:38+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-11-17 18:50:09+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-11-17 19:13:25+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-11-17 19:13:26+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-11-17 20:26:08+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: hello
2011-11-17 20:26:32+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: hey : )
2011-11-17 20:26:58+0000 <mtyaka> I had a change of plan today so that I had 
some time to work on CS after all :)
2011-11-17 20:27:04+0000 <mtyaka> I have a question...
2011-11-17 20:27:13+0000 <mtyaka> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/568
2011-11-17 20:27:47+0000 <mtyaka> dachary set the status back to "in progress", 
because tests were missing....
2011-11-17 20:28:04+0000 <mtyaka> ... but that fix was applied on the server 
anyway, right?
2011-11-17 20:28:16+0000 <mtyaka> oh, ok, i'm stupid
2011-11-17 20:28:23+0000 <mtyaka> it says it was in the comment :)
2011-11-17 20:28:28+0000 <mtyaka> never mind then :)
2011-11-17 20:29:49+0000 <mtyaka> I think #587 and #568 are actually duplicates
2011-11-17 20:30:19+0000 <mtyaka> I fixed #587 (and by extensions #568) - I 
added comments and marked them both "ready for review"
2011-11-17 20:36:15+0000 <antoviaque> (sorry, got interrupted)
2011-11-17 20:36:25+0000 * antoviaque looking
2011-11-17 20:37:25+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep, the fix was actually made 
directly on the server :) (baaad, I know)
2011-11-17 20:38:07+0000 <antoviaque> and cool for the fix, glad you had a 
change of plan :)
2011-11-17 20:40:27+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for fixing that for real btw - I'm 
always having a hard time with unicode in python, I never completely understood 
the whole mess
2011-11-17 20:41:31+0000 <mtyaka> Yeah, it really is a mess. :) It took me 
years to (sort of) understand how it works.
2011-11-17 20:41:47+0000 <mtyaka> I'm looking at the missing fonts issue now: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/538
2011-11-17 20:57:59+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
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