Hi,
Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-12-08.
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2011-12-08 10:52:39+0000 <blanchard1> hello
2011-12-08 10:53:38+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: i won't be able to attend the
meeting today too, I have a meeting at 2pm. I'll be there tomorrow at the
meeting though, and later today in the afternoon if you need me.
2011-12-08 10:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: oki : )
2011-12-08 11:02:26+0000 <blanchard1> for the record, the meeting with paris BA
did not go well, we were not selected. Apart from the fact that i don't if they
could have been interested anyways, I personnally was not very happy with my
presentation, i need to rework it for the elevator pitch format.
2011-12-08 11:03:01+0000 <blanchard1> quite a few other BA to meet, so the good
thing is there's room for improvement.
2011-12-08 11:06:41+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: uh :/ what were the issues?
2011-12-08 11:08:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> can I help with something? :)
2011-12-08 11:10:34+0000 <blanchard1> 1) on my side, pitch document has far too
much text for elevator pitch (it's good for 15mn). I had not done a 5mn since
the one in june, so i need to create a document like the one i used then. Maybe
you'll be able to help tartarugafeliz1 to make it look cool yep :) I just feel
bad i didn't realize it before, lack of time and thought it would be ok. 2) on
the investors side, well they're reluctant with content without traction as
2011-12-08 11:11:00+0000 <blanchard1> 3) I also saw a fund raiser yesterday,
who strongly advised to go to the US
2011-12-08 11:11:28+0000 <antoviaque> +10000 for 3) :p
2011-12-08 11:11:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> yeap I have the feeling that in
France it will be very difficult with a game in English
2011-12-08 11:11:45+0000 <blanchard1> he told me that without strong personal
connection in france, he didn't believe that people can go for content without
traction. But that the US is veeery different on that topic
2011-12-08 11:11:55+0000 <blanchard1> so i'm thinking about this
2011-12-08 11:12:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ahh that's interesting!
2011-12-08 11:12:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> so, california it is? :P
2011-12-08 11:12:58+0000 <blanchard1> would be yep, but would not be free, so i
need to secure some meetings beforehand there else it will money spent for
nothing :)
2011-12-08 11:13:21+0000 <blanchard1> what do you think ?
2011-12-08 11:13:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> I think its really worth the try
2011-12-08 11:13:43+0000 <blanchard1> I need to go to a meeting now but i'll be
happy to discuss further later.
2011-12-08 11:13:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ok!
2011-12-08 11:15:45+0000 <blanchard1> just to finish with the feedback, the
fund raiser confirmed that investors in france are ready to take some risks,
but only on tech. They don't have the content mind. I had felt that, it was
interesting to hear it from someone with more xp.
2011-12-08 11:18:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> they don't have the content mind is
funny
2011-12-08 11:19:02+0000 <blanchard1> also i'm having some contacts for serious
gaming (consulting). At some point, if you guys are interested, could be worth
looking again at B2B contracting (on that topic), because this is really a buzz
word and from what i see, serious game studios are good with serious but not so
much with games ;)
2011-12-08 11:19:25+0000 <blanchard1> some B2B to fund B2C, i'm back to this
old idea currently :p
2011-12-08 11:20:09+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz1: antoviaque ^
2011-12-08 11:20:23+0000 <blanchard1> yes content mind might not be the
appropriate formulation
2011-12-08 11:20:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> I understand what you mean
2011-12-08 11:20:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> I'm laughing because its so cultural
2011-12-08 11:20:58+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-12-08 11:21:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> what you mean B2B?
2011-12-08 11:22:07+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz1: selling some serious
games to companies (b2b = business to business, b2c = business to consumer)
2011-12-08 11:22:08+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: ahaha, for contracting, it
depends a lot on the type of work
2011-12-08 11:22:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ahhh sorry! :P
2011-12-08 11:22:20+0000 <blanchard1> card stories is b2c for instance
2011-12-08 11:22:37+0000 <antoviaque> if it's games for example it's worth
looking at it imho
2011-12-08 11:23:09+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: i know :) just opening again
some doors that were closed and that be worth looking at again at some point
2011-12-08 11:24:20+0000 <antoviaque> for me it's not all black or white on
that area - what I keep from our last discussion is that we don't want stuff
that distracts us from what we really want to do, but if there is a cool B2B
project that fits well with our goals, I'm all ears
2011-12-08 11:24:32+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: agreed
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2011-12-08 13:34:51+0000 <mtyaka> hello :)
2011-12-08 13:34:57+0000 <mtyaka> meeting?
2011-12-08 13:36:59+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-12-08 13:37:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> helllooooo
2011-12-08 13:37:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> hahaahahah
2011-12-08 13:37:22+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2011-12-08 13:37:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> thanks mtyaka!
2011-12-08 13:37:34+0000 <mtyaka> you're welcome :P
2011-12-08 13:37:43+0000 <antoviaque> raaah, damn alarm that didn't ring to
wran hehehe
2011-12-08 13:37:50+0000 <mtyaka> I'll start....
2011-12-08 13:37:52+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday No time :(
2011-12-08 13:37:52+0000 <eve> mtyaka: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
2011-12-08 13:37:54+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today If I have time, and get ahold of
dachary, work on one of my open tasks (#606, #611, #555). Comment story #676
(User management - Use a single id for each user, shared by django, the JS
client and the webservice)
2011-12-08 13:37:54+0000 <eve> mtyaka: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
2011-12-08 13:37:54+0000 <antoviaque> hello mtyaka : )
2011-12-08 13:37:55+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers I'd like to discuss the above
three tasks with dachary before proceeding.
2011-12-08 13:37:55+0000 <eve> mtyaka: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
2011-12-08 13:38:00+0000 <mtyaka> oh...
2011-12-08 13:38:04+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: start dailymeeting
2011-12-08 13:38:04+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_:
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-12-08 13:38:09+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday No time :(
2011-12-08 13:38:09+0000 <eve> Done: No time :(
2011-12-08 13:38:10+0000 <antoviaque> should be better now :p
2011-12-08 13:38:11+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today If I have time, and get ahold of
dachary, work on one of my open tasks (#606, #611, #555). Comment story #676
(User management - Use a single id for each user, shared by django, the JS
client and the webservice)
2011-12-08 13:38:11+0000 <eve> Next: If I have time, and get ahold of dachary,
work on one of my open tasks (#606, #611, #555). Comment story #676 (User
management - Use a single id for each user, shared by django, the JS client and
the webservice)
2011-12-08 13:38:12+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers I'd like to discuss the above
three tasks with dachary before proceeding.
2011-12-08 13:38:12+0000 <eve> Blockers: I'd like to discuss the above three
tasks with dachary before proceeding
2011-12-08 13:38:19+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :)
2011-12-08 13:39:00+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks - and cool, you already
noticed #676 : )
2011-12-08 13:39:34+0000 <mtyaka> I noticed you've been very busy adding new
stories :)
2011-12-08 13:39:39+0000 <antoviaque> heheheh
2011-12-08 13:39:42+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-12-08 13:39:49+0000 <mtyaka> They'll make quite a difference after they
are done, great work
2011-12-08 13:40:00+0000 <antoviaque> actually I spent the whole day trying to
sort out how the user management works ;p
2011-12-08 13:40:17+0000 <mtyaka> Not sure I completely agree about #676,
though... I'll have to think some more, then I'll reply on the ticket
2011-12-08 13:40:27+0000 <antoviaque> ah, cool - I wasn't sure I was on the
right track
2011-12-08 13:40:31+0000 <mtyaka> Heh, yes, it's not very pretty
2011-12-08 13:40:37+0000 <antoviaque> ok - if you think of a better way, don't
hesitate
2011-12-08 13:40:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: yesterday I finished #672
{Non-transparent areas on the "Play again" button}, #662 {Create the card of
the winner of the contest #2} and worked on my freelancer projects.
2011-12-08 13:40:45+0000 <eve> Done: I finished #672 {Non-transparent areas on
the "Play again" button}, #662 {Create the card of the winner of the contest
#2} and worked on my freelancer projects
2011-12-08 13:40:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: today I'll work on my
freelancer projects.
2011-12-08 13:40:46+0000 <eve> Next: I'll work on my freelancer projects
2011-12-08 13:40:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: blockers none.
2011-12-08 13:40:46+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-12-08 13:40:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> new caard!! :D
2011-12-08 13:41:09+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz1: thanks for that :D
2011-12-08 13:41:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> :)
2011-12-08 13:41:16+0000 <antoviaque> (the buttons)
2011-12-08 13:41:22+0000 <antoviaque> looks much better!
2011-12-08 13:41:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> Also I need to start preparing
everything for printing the 2 decks for the winners of the context
2011-12-08 13:41:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> :)
2011-12-08 13:41:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> yw
2011-12-08 13:41:47+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Spent most of the day
exploring how the current CS architecture handles user management, wrote
documentation about it for those who try after me (see
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Authentication_and_Users ), entered
stories about the issues I've spotted for discussion (cf #676 especially, but
also #677 and #678)
2011-12-08 13:41:47+0000 <eve> Done: Spent most of the day exploring how the
current CS architecture handles user management, wrote documentation about it
for those who try after me (see
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Authentication_and_Users ), entered
stories about the issues I've spotted for discussion (cf #676 especially, but
also #677 and #678)
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday #613 Authors see a more
obvious textarea to enter their story, fixed issue on #205 Clicking on "Logout"
logs out from the game (button was inactive in player views), integrated new
button from tartarugafeliz on #672 Non-transparent areas on the "Play again"
button
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <eve> Done: #613 Authors see a more obvious textarea
to enter their story, fixed issue on #205 Clicking on "Logout" logs out from
the game (button was inactive in player views), integrated new button from
tartarugafeliz on #672 Non-transparent areas on the "Play again" button
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss #676 with mtyaka &
dachary (and also #606 & MCMic's test task), and depending on the discussion
outcome implement #676, rework it or find another task : )
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss #676 with mtyaka & dachary (and
also #606 & MCMic's test task), and depending on the discussion outcome
implement #676, rework it or find another task : )
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2011-12-08 13:41:48+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-12-08 13:42:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> these are pretty cool!
2011-12-08 13:42:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> next week the players are going to
vibrate! :D
2011-12-08 13:42:45+0000 <antoviaque> hehe
2011-12-08 13:42:48+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2011-12-08 13:43:36+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1 warned earlier today that he
was going to a meeting - he'll be there later today
2011-12-08 13:43:41+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: there?
2011-12-08 13:44:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ahhh and Amy from Pikaland sent me
an email asking if we want to continue for another month with her, I forwarded
to the mailing list
2011-12-08 13:44:32+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz1: for the ad?
2011-12-08 13:44:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> yeap
2011-12-08 13:44:49+0000 <antoviaque> don't think we got a lot from this, was
more the contest which worked, no?
2011-12-08 13:44:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> I think so too
2011-12-08 13:45:11+0000 <antoviaque> we could check on owa before answering to
be sure
2011-12-08 13:45:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> yeap! :)
2011-12-08 13:45:33+0000 <antoviaque> anything else for today?
2011-12-08 13:46:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> nope, I'm good
2011-12-08 13:47:08+0000 <antoviaque> okidok - thanks!
2011-12-08 13:47:15+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: end dailymeeting
2011-12-08 13:47:15+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-12-08 13:47:15+0000 <eve> Minutes available at
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/517972
2011-12-08 13:51:36+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: Did you notice the spamming
today? http://farsides.com/activity/feed/
2011-12-08 13:52:25+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: rah, damn spambots - thanks, I'm
going to clean that up : )
2011-12-08 13:56:48+0000 antoviaque_ (antoviaque_) is now online
2011-12-08 14:03:54+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-12-08 14:04:11+0000 <antoviaque> done
2011-12-08 14:06:06+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz1: for pikaland, it's hard
to differentiate between the trafic from the contest and from the ad...
2011-12-08 14:06:26+0000 <antoviaque> next time we should probably setup a
specific landing page to be able to tell
2011-12-08 14:06:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> even if you look at the link that
people clicked?
2011-12-08 14:06:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> she created a tag remember?
2011-12-08 14:06:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> for the contest
2011-12-08 14:06:45+0000 <antoviaque> no, you can only tell from which page
they came
2011-12-08 14:06:58+0000 <antoviaque> most of them came from the home...
2011-12-08 14:07:31+0000 <antoviaque> we got a few visits from pages other than
the home or the contest page, which are definitely people clicking on the ad
2011-12-08 14:08:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> yeap so its not worth it for us
probably
2011-12-08 14:08:20+0000 <antoviaque> in any case it's about 200 visits, so
given the activity we had on the game from pikaland upon the contest, it's
pretty safe to assume that we didn't get a lot of people clicking on the ad
2011-12-08 14:08:58+0000 <antoviaque> so yep, we stop there : )
2011-12-08 14:08:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ok so I'm going to write to her and
explain that
2011-12-08 14:09:27+0000 <antoviaque> but if you find other places where we
could hold a contest, don't hesitate - that part went very well
2011-12-08 14:09:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> :)
2011-12-08 14:09:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> ok, I'll organize that
2011-12-08 15:16:44+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: good comment on #619 - I missed
that, despite the fact that it was written in all letters in your commit
message : )
2011-12-08 15:17:00+0000 <antoviaque> *#676
2011-12-08 15:17:59+0000 <antoviaque> wwhat do you think at the end? you see a
better path for the revamp?
2011-12-08 15:19:17+0000 <mtyaka> I am not sure I see the benefit of letting
the JS client pull data directly out of django
2011-12-08 15:19:51+0000 <mtyaka> In part it's because I still want the game to
work without django (using the "old" auth plugin)
2011-12-08 15:21:16+0000 <mtyaka> The old auth system is very useful for
testing with multiple players (just add a player_id=whatever to the url),
djangoauth won't let you do that since it works with sessions.
2011-12-08 15:23:38+0000 <mtyaka> One point I very much agree is that the auth
plugins are too complex - especially the part where they dig into the
request/response to hunt for player_ids that they should translate.
2011-12-08 15:24:30+0000 <mtyaka> There's no documentation and no spec as to
what values they should translate, that's part of the mess
2011-12-08 15:25:23+0000 <mtyaka> I was thinking, maybe make a very simple spec
of what the auth plugins should do....
2011-12-08 15:25:53+0000 <mtyaka> ... there's really no need that they go
changing the player_id values in the request...
2011-12-08 15:27:06+0000 <mtyaka> ... maybe the main service could add
something like players: [11, 42, 33] to the request (at the top level)...
2011-12-08 15:27:58+0000 <mtyaka> ... and the auth plugins would only replace
that value with somehting like players: {'11': {name: 'John', django_id: 9834,
...}, '42': {name: 'Bob', django_id: ...
2011-12-08 15:28:26+0000 <mtyaka> And that would be all that they'd need to do,
the rest would be handled by the JS client
2011-12-08 15:29:30+0000 <mtyaka> Wherever a client would need a name for
player with id 11, it would look at the 'players' part of the request and just
do request.players[11].name
2011-12-08 15:30:34+0000 * antoviaque thinking
2011-12-08 15:31:04+0000 <antoviaque> I see the appeal of debugging with the
player_id yep
2011-12-08 15:32:32+0000 <mtyaka> I haven't really thoght this through very
carefully, it's was just my initial reaction :) There might be problems with
this approach I didn't think about.
2011-12-08 15:35:23+0000 <antoviaque> There may be something I'm overlooking
though - why does the use of the single id for JS/WS/django in djangoauth would
prevent to use the player_id trick?
2011-12-08 15:35:34+0000 <antoviaque> you can't just switch the plugin?
2011-12-08 15:36:18+0000 <antoviaque> hmm
2011-12-08 15:36:23+0000 * antoviaque thinking more
2011-12-08 15:37:05+0000 <antoviaque> ok I see why
2011-12-08 15:37:25+0000 <mtyaka> The core service creates the players in it's
database, and assigns ids to them... the auth plugins only attach additional
information to that id
2011-12-08 15:38:39+0000 <mtyaka> So if you want to avoid the plugins plunging
through the request and replacing every occurrence of player_id, you'll need to
keep the core service's internal ids in there
2011-12-08 15:39:15+0000 <mtyaka> That is unless we change the core service so
that the auth plugins tell it what id to use for a player before it creates it
in it's database
2011-12-08 15:39:22+0000 <mtyaka> Then they might be able to share the unique id
2011-12-08 15:39:36+0000 <mtyaka> But I have no idea how much changes that
would require
2011-12-08 15:40:55+0000 <antoviaque> but that's not already the case in the
djangoauth plugin? I must have got something wrong then
2011-12-08 15:41:22+0000 <antoviaque> "When the JS client needs to make a
request from the webservice, the browser provides the sessionid cookie set upon
login by django.
2011-12-08 15:41:22+0000 <antoviaque> The webservice's
plugins/djangoauth/djangoauth.py plugin checks the authentication of each
request by retrieving the value of the sessionid cookie, and asking django to
validate it through a request at /getloggedinuserid/<sessionid value>/. Django
will return his internal User().id if the user is found. (With one exception:
invite action requests are not authenticated.)"
2011-12-08 15:41:40+0000 <antoviaque> (from
http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Card_Stories_-_Authentication_and_Users - checking
it now)
2011-12-08 15:42:36+0000 <mtyaka> Hmm... I'm a bit confused myself... let me
check the code again.
2011-12-08 15:46:42+0000 <mtyaka> Well... this just goes to show that
authentication is really to complicated.
2011-12-08 15:48:12+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe : )
2011-12-08 15:48:15+0000 <antoviaque> agreed ;p
2011-12-08 15:48:34+0000 <mtyaka> I'm sorry for the confusion, I think you were
right
2011-12-08 15:48:46+0000 <mtyaka> the numerical ids come from django
2011-12-08 15:48:55+0000 <mtyaka> (or from the auth plugin when not using
django)
2011-12-08 15:48:58+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-12-08 15:50:01+0000 <mtyaka> Still, that doesn't really change my proposal
much, it just means we don't need to include a separate django_id into the
players info
2011-12-08 15:50:49+0000 * antoviaque rereading your solution
2011-12-08 15:52:47+0000 <antoviaque> stop me if I misunderstood something,
trying to make sure I understood - you'd rather keep everything centralized on
the webservice, and add fields in the webservice answers, right?
2011-12-08 15:53:30+0000 <mtyaka> Yes... I think we both agree on this:
2011-12-08 15:53:57+0000 <mtyaka> keep the players_id inside the requests as
they are, don't go hunting for them and translating them in-place
2011-12-08 15:54:20+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: if you're around, your insights
would be really useful btw :p
2011-12-08 15:54:25+0000 <mtyaka> now we only need some way to get additional
info about a player with some player_id
2011-12-08 15:54:50+0000 <antoviaque> yep, agreed for the translation
2011-12-08 15:54:53+0000 <mtyaka> you propose fetching it directly from django,
while i'd rather let the auth plugin add it to the request
2011-12-08 15:55:01+0000 <antoviaque> I see
2011-12-08 15:55:19+0000 <antoviaque> interesting, I didn't think of that option
2011-12-08 15:55:59+0000 <antoviaque> I kind of assumed we wanted to keep the
webservice small, but you may have a point - splitting the sources of info
could create other complications down the line
2011-12-08 15:56:01+0000 <mtyaka> It would be easier this way if we want to
keep supporting the plain auth plugin
2011-12-08 15:57:02+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-12-08 15:57:42+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to look at the whole mess again
from this perspective, to see how it fits
2011-12-08 15:58:12+0000 <mtyaka> great
2011-12-08 15:58:24+0000 <antoviaque> (and I'll also dig a bit deeper in the
webservice, to make sure we got the ids part right)
2011-12-08 15:58:58+0000 <mtyaka> yup
2011-12-08 15:59:33+0000 <antoviaque> thanks mtyaka, really useful : )
2011-12-08 15:59:48+0000 <mtyaka> I've got to go do some work in the new house,
see you tomorrow :)
2011-12-08 16:00:05+0000 <mtyaka> np, will be happy to discuss this again
2011-12-08 16:00:08+0000 <antoviaque> can I copy/paste our discussion on the
ticket to not lose it?
2011-12-08 16:00:13+0000 <mtyaka> sure
2011-12-08 16:00:24+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I think it will take us some time to
get this right
2011-12-08 16:00:30+0000 <antoviaque> good luck with your house! : )
2011-12-08 16:00:38+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :)
2011-12-08 16:01:21+0000 <mtyaka> keep up the good work, you're coming up with
some really good stories on redmine
2011-12-08 16:01:25+0000 <mtyaka> bye :)
2011-12-08 16:01:36+0000 <antoviaque> thx : )
2011-12-08 16:01:43+0000 <antoviaque> see you!
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