Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-02-03.
2012-02-03 01:51:49+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-03 07:06:33+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-03 07:32:08+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2012-02-03 07:45:27+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-03 08:21:30+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-03 10:04:34+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2012-02-03 10:37:10+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 10:38:58+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 10:49:25+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 10:51:17+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 11:03:08+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-03 11:47:17+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 11:47:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> guys! I won't be able to participate on the meeting today, I'm sorry 2012-02-03 11:48:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I have just too much work to finish. I'll solve that between today and tomorrow⦠2012-02-03 11:49:52+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 11:50:25+0000 <blanchard> guys! I'm really sorry, it's the second time i fail to warn before, but i have to attend a meeting and I can't make it today. It's negociation for the school in montreal and I can't postpone it. 2012-02-03 11:50:40+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: ^ 2012-02-03 11:51:08+0000 <blanchard> my bad, the current period is complicated to organize for me :/ 2012-02-03 11:53:26+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ok - you don't have much choice here I guess 2012-02-03 11:54:13+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 11:55:57+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 11:56:22+0000 tartarugafeliz2 (tartarugafeliz2) is now online 2012-02-03 13:08:51+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2012-02-03 13:19:26+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-03 13:26:55+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2012-02-03 13:27:57+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-03 13:31:12+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: start dailymeeting 2012-02-03 13:31:12+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2012-02-03 13:31:31+0000 <antoviaque> hey arbrandes! 2012-02-03 13:31:35+0000 <antoviaque> felling better today? 2012-02-03 13:31:44+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: good morning. Hangover ? 2012-02-03 13:31:48+0000 <dachary> :-P 2012-02-03 13:32:04+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ahahah - nope, arbrandes was sick yesterday : ) 2012-02-03 13:32:20+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-03 13:32:21+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: and good day sir - how are you? : ) 2012-02-03 13:32:26+0000 <antoviaque> hello mtyaka 2012-02-03 13:32:29+0000 <dachary> good day to you all ! 2012-02-03 13:32:34+0000 * dachary back to work 2012-02-03 13:32:36+0000 <antoviaque> (didn't miss anything, we're just strating : ) ) 2012-02-03 13:32:39+0000 <mtyaka> hi everybody! 2012-02-03 13:32:40+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: see you! 2012-02-03 13:32:41+0000 <arbrandes> I'll survive, thanks for asking :) Had something bad to eat, I imagine. 2012-02-03 13:32:43+0000 <mtyaka> great :) 2012-02-03 13:32:45+0000 <mtyaka> by dachary! 2012-02-03 13:32:51+0000 <mtyaka> *bye* 2012-02-03 13:32:56+0000 <arbrandes> hello, goodbye, dachary! :) 2012-02-03 13:33:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Fixed #645 "Players earn points for each game they played" (also added django migrations handling by south and commented on #769 "Implement XP backend"), done pending reviews of mtyaka's code, ran tests on all supported browsers + visual appearance (cf http://bit.ly/AA6Gaw ), started working on #809 "Players see if players of a game are online" 2012-02-03 13:33:06+0000 <eve> Done: Fixed #645 "Players earn points for each game they played" (also added django migrations handling by south and commented on #769 "Implement XP backend"), done pending reviews of mtyaka's code, ran tests on all supported browsers + visual appearance (cf http://bit.ly/AA6Gaw ), started working on #809 "Players see if players of a game are online" 2012-02-03 13:33:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Discuss bananas with arbrandes, work on #809 2012-02-03 13:33:07+0000 <eve> Next: Discuss bananas with arbrandes, work on #809 2012-02-03 13:33:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers Need to decide on policy regarding plugins vs core (depending on what we chose, the implementation of #783 and #784 will differ) 2012-02-03 13:33:07+0000 <eve> Blockers: Need to decide on policy regarding plugins vs core (depending on what we chose, the implementation of #783 and #784 will differ) 2012-02-03 13:33:49+0000 <antoviaque> *err, it's "Fixed #805: Error page after registration" for the first one, sorry 2012-02-03 13:34:52+0000 <dachary> BTW, I tried to play a game of cardstories last week on a ipad2 and it worked. It was a little slow but nothing wrong. 2012-02-03 13:35:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz2> dachary using ipad2??? :O 2012-02-03 13:35:21+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: oh, good to know! Even jqDock was usable? 2012-02-03 13:35:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz2> (hello everyone!) 2012-02-03 13:35:25+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz2: loooool 2012-02-03 13:35:55+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yes, all worked 2012-02-03 13:36:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz2> :) 2012-02-03 13:36:02+0000 <antoviaque> cool! 2012-02-03 13:36:12+0000 <arbrandes> Kewl, dachary, that's good news - I always thought Cardstories would be a good game for a tablet 2012-02-03 13:36:17+0000 <antoviaque> +1 2012-02-03 13:36:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve: yesterday Sick! 2012-02-03 13:36:41+0000 <eve> Done: Sick 2012-02-03 13:36:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve: today not sure, either bananas, rework #767, or continue on #769. 2012-02-03 13:36:41+0000 <eve> Next: not sure, either bananas, rework #767, or continue on #769 2012-02-03 13:36:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blockers Discuss priorities with antoviaque. 2012-02-03 13:36:42+0000 <eve> Blockers: Discuss priorities with antoviaque 2012-02-03 13:37:10+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: thanks for all the quality reviews, much appreciated! 2012-02-03 13:37:11+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: btw not sure if you have some time, but if you do would be great to have your opinion on the discussion about plugins vs core in Twisted :) 2012-02-03 13:37:20+0000 <arbrandes> (where #767 = XP data model and #769 = XP backend) 2012-02-03 13:37:26+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you're welcome! always a pleasure to read your code 2012-02-03 13:37:40+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Had a look at HTML5 application cache (#746), fixed issues antoviaque spotted with (#744), ranted about plugins at (#756), thought about how to switch tabs without reloading (#807) - I'm quite excited about this :) 2012-02-03 13:37:40+0000 <eve> Done: Had a look at HTML5 application cache (#746), fixed issues antoviaque spotted with (#744), ranted about plugins at (#756), thought about how to switch tabs without reloading (#807) - I'm quite excited about this :) 2012-02-03 13:37:41+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Try how the reloading without page refresh works out in practice. 2012-02-03 13:37:42+0000 <eve> Next: Try how the reloading without page refresh works out in practice 2012-02-03 13:37:43+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None. 2012-02-03 13:37:43+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2012-02-03 13:38:36+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: oh, haven't read your comments yet - heading back the tracker 2012-02-03 13:38:51+0000 * arbrandes reading #756 2012-02-03 13:40:21+0000 <mtyaka> umm.. wait, don't read too much into #756, I wrote that before the coffee kicked in and I didn't even re-read it, so take it with a grain of salt 2012-02-03 13:40:58+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2012-02-03 13:41:08+0000 <arbrandes> I'm pretty much with you on that one, though, mtyaka ;) 2012-02-03 13:41:18+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2012-02-03 13:41:41+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so how do you suggest we tackle architecture decisions about plugins vs core? 2012-02-03 13:41:55+0000 <arbrandes> It's also how I feel about excessive abstraction in OO programming. But I digress ;0 2012-02-03 13:42:51+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-03 13:43:10+0000 <arbrandes_> (got disconnected) 2012-02-03 13:43:15+0000 <arbrandes_> (or kicked by antoviaque, heheheh) 2012-02-03 13:43:30+0000 <mtyaka> lol :) 2012-02-03 13:45:00+0000 <arbrandes> You raised an important point in #756, though, mtyaka. Although I generally agree with the feel of your post, the "outside developer" thing is actually very pertinent to Farsides. 2012-02-03 13:45:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahahahah 2012-02-03 13:45:41+0000 <arbrandes> The question is if this particular advantage of making everything a plugin outweighs to disadvantages. 2012-02-03 13:45:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, :) 2012-02-03 13:46:13+0000 <arbrandes> *the disadvantages 2012-02-03 13:47:07+0000 <antoviaque> /kick anti-plugin coders 2012-02-03 13:47:07+0000 <antoviaque> ah damned! 2012-02-03 13:47:07+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-02-03 13:47:35+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehehe 2012-02-03 13:47:40+0000 <mtyaka> :) 2012-02-03 13:48:00+0000 <antoviaque> yup, personally I'm really unsure on this one, I haven't been bitten enough one way or another to know what will be the lest hassle 2012-02-03 13:48:05+0000 <mtyaka> right, that's an interesting point, we are making open source software after all 2012-02-03 13:49:36+0000 <arbrandes> As I see it, part of our dilemma is that writing everything as a plugin still requires changing the core code anyway 2012-02-03 13:50:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: for levels you mean? 2012-02-03 13:50:38+0000 <arbrandes> For instance, regarding scoring: currently the core data model of the WS has no knowledge of players themselves, only how they relate to games and/or invitations. 2012-02-03 13:50:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, as an example, yes 2012-02-03 13:51:19+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: what about a separate db/table, like the auth plugin? 2012-02-03 13:51:43+0000 <arbrandes> And the question (pertinently raised by antoviaque on #767) is: where is stuff supposed to go? 2012-02-03 13:52:41+0000 <arbrandes> Since the only place where there is a model for the player is in authentication (obviously), it seemed to me that it made sense to store levels/experience there, too. 2012-02-03 13:53:06+0000 <arbrandes> But at the same time, it was much easier to calculate the score inside game.py (#769). 2012-02-03 13:53:42+0000 <arbrandes> Otherwise, we would most certainly have to change the core code to publish more stuff for a plugin to be able to calculate the score. 2012-02-03 13:54:08+0000 <arbrandes> Which obviates the advantage of writing a plugin in order not to change the core. 2012-02-03 13:54:24+0000 <antoviaque> yup, understood 2012-02-03 13:54:41+0000 <arbrandes> But again, I am also very much on the fence here. 2012-02-03 13:55:10+0000 <antoviaque> just playing a little bit more the devil's advocate - changing the core to expose more make the plugin system more powerful, while altering the core is easier, but only helps with the task at hand 2012-02-03 13:56:29+0000 <mtyaka> maybe we should ask ourselves what we gain by NOT modifying core 2012-02-03 13:56:59+0000 <mtyaka> personally, I don't see any benefit, except of course in cases where we want to swap plugins, like the auth plugin, or when we want to sometimes turn some plugins off 2012-02-03 13:56:59+0000 <arbrandes> more powerful = more complicated = easier to break, which I think is mtyaka's point 2012-02-03 13:57:26+0000 <mtyaka> yes 2012-02-03 13:59:11+0000 <antoviaque> That's where I don't have the XP to argue : ) My gut feeling is that piling up stuff in the core is going to make our life harder, but I don't have much to back it up 2012-02-03 13:59:29+0000 <arbrandes> My gut feeling is this: if 1a) you need to swap functionatily or 1b) you envision needing to turn off something, and 2) you can easily write a plugin without modifying the current core, then you should be writing a plugin. Otherwise, either use current plugins or just change the core. 2012-02-03 14:01:13+0000 <antoviaque> ok then - I've played the devil's advocate long enough : ) Let's make this the principle for plugins vs core? 2012-02-03 14:01:41+0000 <mtyaka> yup, I thing that's a good principle 2012-02-03 14:02:03+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I don't mean to say that we should be cluttering current methods/classes. The basic Linus-rule still applies ("If you need more than 3 levels of indentation you're screwed and need to fix you program"). 2012-02-03 14:02:53+0000 <arbrandes> Or something to that effect. 2012-02-03 14:02:59+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: sounds good - will be very interested to see how you architecture this, for example in the case of levels 2012-02-03 14:03:03+0000 <mtyaka> I think that plugins like chat and bots make sense, because they really live a life of their own, and don't interact with core much 2012-02-03 14:03:41+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 14:03:57+0000 <antoviaque> what about tables, tabs, activity? 2012-02-03 14:04:22+0000 <antoviaque> would go more with the core with what we said, no? 2012-02-03 14:04:23+0000 <mtyaka> but then there's tabs... or game timers, which I think can make life harder if we try to push them out of where they want to be (the core) :) 2012-02-03 14:04:38+0000 <arbrandes> Ok then, let me selfishly ask the question that affects me directly: is leveling something that will need to be disabled? Can you guys imagine a different scoring system being swappable? 2012-02-03 14:04:39+0000 <mtyaka> i'm not sure about tables and activity, because I haven't looked at them 2012-02-03 14:05:28+0000 <arbrandes> And the second question: where do I store leveling data? I admit putting it all inside the auth plugins may not be the best way. 2012-02-03 14:05:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: swappable as two implementations co-existing at the same time in the code base, but having the admin chose which one? not likely nope 2012-02-03 14:05:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, that's what I meant, yes 2012-02-03 14:07:03+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: good question - given our current discussion, would likely be on the core db 2012-02-03 14:07:08+0000 <arbrandes> But there's one very big advantage to having scoring in the django tables: we get a free admin screen to fiddle with player's scores. ;) 2012-02-03 14:07:33+0000 <antoviaque> maybe a CardstoriesPlayer object? 2012-02-03 14:07:49+0000 <arbrandes> (and it will make it MUCH easier to be able to buy cards, etc) 2012-02-03 14:07:54+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahaha, true - but sqlite3 does the trick too : ) 2012-02-03 14:08:10+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, for buying it's more tricky 2012-02-03 14:08:33+0000 <antoviaque> maybe then the WS could simply request the WS to add a card to a player (ie the other way around) 2012-02-03 14:09:17+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, sure, we can use sqlite3, but surely there will come a time when we want non-coders to handle this stuff (at which point we can develop something independently of the Django admin, but then again, it's hard to say no to something you get for free, hehehe) 2012-02-03 14:09:56+0000 <antoviaque> agreed - even in general, django does a lot of stuff out of the box, while twisted doesn't 2012-02-03 14:10:11+0000 <antoviaque> migrations is also a good example 2012-02-03 14:10:22+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yes for the reverse WS request - but this would be something new, currently requests only go the other way. 2012-02-03 14:11:11+0000 <arbrandes> I guess what I'm defending now is the path of least resistance. Which might or might not be a good idea, depending on resources and time frame. 2012-02-03 14:11:56+0000 <antoviaque> think it would be simpler to develop on django's side? I was thinking that the communication overhead between django and twisted was adding? 2012-02-03 14:13:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, since I never faced the actual performance problem with the WS requesting stuff from Django (you're handling all the server administration), you tell me! :) I'm not sure we'll be able to cache anything related to scores, so there'll be at least one request per game completed. 2012-02-03 14:15:28+0000 <arbrandes> If one request per game is not acceptable, though, we will definitely run into problems in the future, and will have to optimize stuff a lot. 2012-02-03 14:15:49+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: well, I don't want to fall into the premature optimization trap - but I have the impression that we'll need more than once per game no? if we start showing levels in games, user profiles, etc. - no? 2012-02-03 14:16:21+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: don't think once per game would be a problem 2012-02-03 14:17:03+0000 <antoviaque> well, maybe not 2012-02-03 14:17:06+0000 * antoviaque thinking 2012-02-03 14:17:48+0000 <antoviaque> you need a request when getting cards too no? 2012-02-03 14:17:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, agreed, at least two requests per game. One to get the current score, another to store it. 2012-02-03 14:18:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm thinking the same request could return cards and score, but I may be talking out of my ass, it's the first time I think about it. 2012-02-03 14:18:39+0000 <antoviaque> yup, not sure either 2012-02-03 14:19:04+0000 <antoviaque> anyway, here too I just wanted to raise the issue - no worries going for what you think is best : ) 2012-02-03 14:19:06+0000 <arbrandes> That's precisely what I was referring to, though. As we go forward, there'll be more and more stuff to be gotten out of Django, if we continue on the same path. 2012-02-03 14:19:40+0000 <arbrandes> If it's a bottleneck, we need to start thinking how to solve it, or even change paths altogether. 2012-02-03 14:21:17+0000 <arbrandes> The obvious (-ly wrong) answer that springs to mind would be for the time-critical service (the WS) to access the Django database directly, but then we lose the neat plugin separation. 2012-02-03 14:21:58+0000 <antoviaque> : ) 2012-02-03 14:22:16+0000 <arbrandes> If Django makes requests the other way, we have the same problem, but on the other direction. 2012-02-03 14:22:27+0000 <antoviaque> let me see if I can find the benchs loic did, I don't remember if it showed the details of django's requests 2012-02-03 14:23:02+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: not that much - Twisted answers very fast from what I remember 2012-02-03 14:24:15+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, if we do it this way, though, it no longer makes a lot of sense to store player data on Django's side, does it? 2012-02-03 14:24:33+0000 <arbrandes> And then we start to lose a lot of Django's advantages. 2012-02-03 14:25:34+0000 <arbrandes> I'm not actually arguing for Django - just pointing out that if we go down this road, we're actually aiming towards doing everything in twisted. 2012-02-03 14:25:48+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: the way I understood the split between django and twisted was that django was there for authentication (interfacing with FB, openid, local website auth mecanism if we integrate, etc.) and billing 2012-02-03 14:25:49+0000 <arbrandes> This might (or might not) be desirable. 2012-02-03 14:26:25+0000 <arbrandes> But authentication + billing = player data 2012-02-03 14:26:33+0000 <arbrandes> At least currently 2012-02-03 14:26:42+0000 <arbrandes> There's not much more to players than this. 2012-02-03 14:26:56+0000 <antoviaque> yep, but *external* player data, ie not related to game mechanisms 2012-02-03 14:27:03+0000 <arbrandes> That's why there is no "players" table in the WS, but there is one in the auth plugins. 2012-02-03 14:28:12+0000 <antoviaque> if I remember correctly the discussions at the beginning, loic wanted to keep that part external because he had been bitten with the poker server 2012-02-03 14:28:39+0000 <antoviaque> ie when integrating the poker server for a new client, he would have to redo the auth, and this needed to be external 2012-02-03 14:29:21+0000 <antoviaque> but things like the games won, points earned, etc. do not fall in this use-case - they would be the same no matter how the player logged in 2012-02-03 14:29:27+0000 <arbrandes> I see your point. I also see why we're discussing this now: by adding levels and cards, we're now blurring the line between what's external and what's game-mechanism-exclusive. 2012-02-03 14:29:38+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2012-02-03 14:30:01+0000 <arbrandes> Because at one point, players are going to use money (external) to buy cards (internal). 2012-02-03 14:30:17+0000 <arbrandes> The question remains: where is the optimal place to store this stuff? 2012-02-03 14:31:24+0000 <antoviaque> what do you think? 2012-02-03 14:31:29+0000 <arbrandes> Remembering that all of it needs to be "administratable" from the same place 2012-02-03 14:32:01+0000 <arbrandes> User story: "the sysadmin needs to be able to revoke cards if the credit card transaction does not go through" 2012-02-03 14:32:40+0000 <arbrandes> or something to that effect 2012-02-03 14:34:02+0000 <antoviaque> good point yep - we would have this the other way then 2012-02-03 14:34:20+0000 <arbrandes> But also remembering that, as you correctly point out, the actual presence of the card in a player's hand is a mechanic and therefore essential to the proper functioning of the game. In other words, it's not optional and therefore should not be something stored in a plugin. 2012-02-03 14:35:08+0000 <arbrandes> Same applies to experience and levels ^ 2012-02-03 14:36:11+0000 <antoviaque> yep, tricky - what do you think is best at the end? 2012-02-03 14:37:48+0000 <arbrandes> Ack, I really don't know. I think I need to eat before giving my professional opinion, lol. I really, really like the idea of being able to rely on Django models and facilities to manage this stuff, but I also realize it is not the Right Way � to separate stuff. 2012-02-03 14:38:59+0000 <arbrandes> (I was thinking of taking advantage of ready-made Django e-commerce packages like Satchmo) 2012-02-03 14:39:14+0000 * antoviaque looking it up 2012-02-03 14:39:59+0000 <arbrandes> But it really does break the current (correct) paradigm of storing game mechanics stuff in the WS. 2012-02-03 14:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> ok - so let's eat on it then : ) 2012-02-03 14:43:14+0000 <arbrandes> I don't know, maybe we can just duplicate the information. It seems like a small enough compromise in our case. But yeah, let's eat on it, hehehehhe 2012-02-03 14:43:23+0000 <antoviaque> We already came to a conclusion on the plugin vs core, not bad for one meeting :p 2012-02-03 14:44:13+0000 <arbrandes> Kewl then 2012-02-03 14:44:29+0000 <antoviaque> in any case, I let you and mtyaka take the decision on this too - I'll play the devil's advocate some more probably, but at the end I trust you more than my gut feelings on those code matters 2012-02-03 14:45:04+0000 <antoviaque> And thanks for indulging my noob convictions btw : ) 2012-02-03 14:45:39+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, don't worry, I enjoy these discussions. I like your advocation of the devil as much as tartarugafeliz's design instructions. ;) 2012-02-03 14:46:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2012-02-03 14:46:05+0000 <arbrandes> I like them even more when I'm proven wrong. It's easier to learn by mistakes, heheheh 2012-02-03 14:47:11+0000 <arbrandes> (I guess that's what Plato was getting at, lol) 2012-02-03 14:47:14+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe : ) 2012-02-03 14:47:16+0000 <arbrandes> Ok then, gonna go eat, brb 2012-02-03 14:47:22+0000 <antoviaque> ok, all good for today then? 2012-02-03 14:47:38+0000 <antoviaque> bon appetit! 2012-02-03 14:48:04+0000 <arbrandes> for me, yes. I'm gonna be working during the weekend, gonna show my face around here from time to time. 2012-02-03 14:48:29+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok cool! 2012-02-03 14:48:43+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: end dailymeeting 2012-02-03 14:48:43+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-02-03 14:48:43+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/545210 2012-02-03 14:48:48+0000 * antoviaque off to lunch too 2012-02-03 15:25:25+0000 dachary1 (dachary1) is now online 2012-02-03 15:35:49+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-03 16:27:17+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-03 17:11:16+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 17:16:00+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-03 17:29:25+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2012-02-03 17:41:59+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 18:07:54+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 19:01:29+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 20:54:02+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 20:54:13+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 20:56:48+0000 tartarugafeliz2 (tartarugafeliz2) is now online 2012-02-03 20:57:15+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-03 20:58:50+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-03 20:59:58+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2012-02-03 21:00:20+0000 tartarugafeliz2 (tartarugafeliz2) is now online 2012-02-03 22:39:01+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-03 22:57:27+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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