Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-02-17.
2012-02-17 08:20:50+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 12:52:18+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-17 13:20:12+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-17 13:22:57+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 13:28:22+0000 <antoviaque> oy oy! 2012-02-17 13:29:06+0000 <arbrandes> "oy oy"? What kind of language do they speak in Brooklin? :P 2012-02-17 13:29:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello! 2012-02-17 13:29:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahhahah 2012-02-17 13:29:19+0000 <arbrandes> (brooklyn, I mean) 2012-02-17 13:29:30+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe 2012-02-17 13:29:54+0000 <antoviaque> yo man! 2012-02-17 13:30:10+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-02-17 13:30:13+0000 <antoviaque> heheheh 2012-02-17 13:30:16+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2012-02-17 13:30:23+0000 <antoviaque> it's pirate speak :p 2012-02-17 13:30:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting 2012-02-17 13:30:46+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2012-02-17 13:30:52+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, ok :) 2012-02-17 13:31:03+0000 * antoviaque needs a coffee 2012-02-17 13:31:06+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-02-17 13:31:34+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Prepared 2.4 sprint, worked on tickets changes from code reviews on #802 "Author of a game gets automatically directed to a new game", #794 "KeyError while removing online player in activity plugin", #825 "Daily traceback email resends old tracebacks", #755 "Implement monitoring of player online status", #771 "Improve the WS to allow implementation of tracking (online status and series of games)", added further 2012-02-17 13:31:34+0000 <eve> Done: Prepared 2.4 sprint, worked on tickets changes from code reviews on #802 "Author of a game gets automatically directed to a new game", #794 "KeyError while removing online player in activity plugin", #825 "Daily traceback email resends old tracebacks", #755 "Implement monitoring of player online status", #771 "Improve the WS to allow implementation of tracking (online status and series of games)", added further 2012-02-17 13:31:34+0000 <antoviaque> questions on #760 and #809, entered new bug reports 2012-02-17 13:31:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None 2012-02-17 13:31:35+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2012-02-17 13:31:34+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Changes from code review on submitted eve patch, integrate scrum daily meeting features (HS today and tomorrow) 2012-02-17 13:31:35+0000 <eve> Next: Changes from code review on submitted eve patch, integrate scrum daily meeting features (HS today and tomorrow) 2012-02-17 13:32:11+0000 <antoviaque> ...further questions on #760 and #809, entered new bug reports 2012-02-17 13:32:11+0000 <blanchard> helloo 2012-02-17 13:32:20+0000 <arbrandes> There's school on saturday? Training workaholics, heheheh 2012-02-17 13:32:23+0000 <antoviaque> oy oy blanchard ! 2012-02-17 13:32:27+0000 <arbrandes> hey blanchard 2012-02-17 13:32:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: hehe, yep : ) 2012-02-17 13:32:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello! 2012-02-17 13:32:49+0000 <dachary> eve: Yesterday nothing. Next nothing. Blockers Full time job :-( 2012-02-17 13:32:49+0000 <eve> Done: nothing. Next nothing. Blockers Full time job :-( 2012-02-17 13:32:57+0000 <antoviaque> monday tuesday friday saturday 2012-02-17 13:32:59+0000 <arbrandes> hehehhe, dachary 2012-02-17 13:32:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahahah 2012-02-17 13:33:01+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ahahahahah 2012-02-17 13:33:02+0000 <dachary> :-P 2012-02-17 13:33:05+0000 <antoviaque> roflll 2012-02-17 13:33:13+0000 <blanchard> eve, yesterday : skewl 2012-02-17 13:33:13+0000 <eve> Done: : skewl 2012-02-17 13:33:13+0000 <blanchard> eve, today : skewl again 2012-02-17 13:33:13+0000 <eve> Next: : skewl again 2012-02-17 13:33:13+0000 <blanchard> eve, blockers : no 2012-02-17 13:33:14+0000 <eve> Blockers: : no 2012-02-17 13:33:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hhahaahahah 2012-02-17 13:33:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> skeeewwlll 2012-02-17 13:33:36+0000 <arbrandes> "skewl", lol 2012-02-17 13:33:48+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: I was thinking of removing your name from the ping, but with this bad joke I'm going to leave it, for the pleasure :p 2012-02-17 13:34:05+0000 <blanchard> skewl is copyright tartarugafeliz :) 2012-02-17 13:34:06+0000 <dachary> I like it actually. 2012-02-17 13:34:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap! 2012-02-17 13:34:19+0000 <dachary> I feel connected somehow. 2012-02-17 13:34:40+0000 <arbrandes> eve: yesterday (re)started #769 (xp backend) 2012-02-17 13:34:40+0000 <eve> Done: (re)started #769 (xp backend) 2012-02-17 13:34:40+0000 <arbrandes> eve: today continue on #769. 2012-02-17 13:34:40+0000 <eve> Next: continue on #769 2012-02-17 13:34:40+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blockers none. 2012-02-17 13:34:41+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2012-02-17 13:34:41+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh - cool then. troublemaker :p 2012-02-17 13:35:08+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yo man, gotta go to skewl yo! 2012-02-17 13:35:23+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: hehe :) 2012-02-17 13:35:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I worked on my projects 2012-02-17 13:35:38+0000 <eve> Done: I worked on my projects 2012-02-17 13:35:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'll work on my projects. I'm almost finishing!! 2012-02-17 13:35:38+0000 <eve> Next: I'll work on my projects. I'm almost finishing 2012-02-17 13:35:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none 2012-02-17 13:35:39+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2012-02-17 13:35:49+0000 <blanchard> so after a week you already sound like a real new york duuude 2012-02-17 13:36:23+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah, my god 2012-02-17 13:36:32+0000 * antoviaque really needs a coffee 2012-02-17 13:36:46+0000 <blanchard> hehe 2012-02-17 13:37:10+0000 <arbrandes> Coffee's probably real easy in New York, what with a Starbucks on every corner and all. :P 2012-02-17 13:37:13+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: all good for the xp backend? chose to tackle it as a big task at the end? : ) 2012-02-17 13:37:39+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yup, it's not all that big, now that we're using the WS database 2012-02-17 13:38:05+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, and they're cheaper too - that's why they all buy it there in movies, rather than the coffee machine :p 2012-02-17 13:38:07+0000 <arbrandes> no need for plugin development, django, etc 2012-02-17 13:38:47+0000 <antoviaque> cool! if it's simpler, it's probably a good sign : ) 2012-02-17 13:38:50+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe, yup, as always, Starbucks/The Gap/Honda Civics are cheap in the US, and luxury items elsewhere in the world. 2012-02-17 13:39:15+0000 <arbrandes> (at least in the THIRD world, hee hee) 2012-02-17 13:39:49+0000 <mtyaka> hello pirates 2012-02-17 13:39:53+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Started working on #827 (improved 'New game' tabs), hit some blocks (it's not as simple as I expected). 2012-02-17 13:39:53+0000 <eve> Done: Started working on #827 (improved 'New game' tabs), hit some blocks (it's not as simple as I expected) 2012-02-17 13:39:54+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Next try on #827. 2012-02-17 13:39:54+0000 <eve> Next: Next try on #827 2012-02-17 13:39:56+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None. 2012-02-17 13:39:56+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2012-02-17 13:39:56+0000 <arbrandes> hey M.T.! 2012-02-17 13:39:57+0000 <antoviaque> hehe - I guess we pay the price of looking american, while they just... are americans 2012-02-17 13:40:15+0000 <blanchard> hi mtyaka the pirate 2012-02-17 13:40:38+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: anything you need help on with #827? 2012-02-17 13:40:49+0000 <mtyaka> :) 2012-02-17 13:40:53+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: are you drunk? :p 2012-02-17 13:41:03+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: no, at least not yet 2012-02-17 13:41:09+0000 <mtyaka> just need to take a different approach 2012-02-17 13:41:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2012-02-17 13:41:28+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: same answer : no, at least not yet :p 2012-02-17 13:41:34+0000 <mtyaka> lol 2012-02-17 13:41:35+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ahahaha 2012-02-17 13:41:58+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh 2012-02-17 13:42:36+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: arbrandes: btw when you have time (won't be able to work on those before next week), I could use some (more) help, on #760 and #809 2012-02-17 13:43:07+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I'll have a look tonight 2012-02-17 13:43:17+0000 <antoviaque> before starting to redo/rewritte those, I want to make sure I take the right approach 2012-02-17 13:43:48+0000 <antoviaque> thanks a lot mtyaka - your reviews were excellent btw, it really improved the quality of my last set of patches 2012-02-17 13:44:09+0000 <antoviaque> lots of stuff to redo, but at least I'm learning :) 2012-02-17 13:44:42+0000 * arbrandes reading 760 and 809 2012-02-17 13:44:51+0000 <antoviaque> thx arbrandes ! 2012-02-17 13:45:15+0000 <antoviaque> ah something else - the 121s : ) 2012-02-17 13:45:35+0000 <arbrandes> ooo, yeah, I missed those 2012-02-17 13:45:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: mtyaka want to have the next one next week? Wed/Thu? 2012-02-17 13:45:49+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe : ) 2012-02-17 13:46:13+0000 <antoviaque> yep with the many changes in location lately, I let them slip, sorry for that 2012-02-17 13:46:47+0000 <mtyaka> :) 2012-02-17 13:46:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'll be on uncertain internet conditions until Friday - if everything's fine, we can do it on Thursday - otherwise, the following week (or the weekend) will be better for me. 2012-02-17 13:47:13+0000 <mtyaka> I'll be pretty busy on Wednesday, but Thursday should be fine 2012-02-17 13:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok, perfect! 2012-02-17 13:47:49+0000 <arbrandes> roger, roger 2012-02-17 13:48:06+0000 <antoviaque> 30/60 minutes after the meeting? 2012-02-17 13:48:53+0000 <arbrandes> sounds good to me! 2012-02-17 13:48:57+0000 <antoviaque> (ie mtyaka at 9am EST, abrandes at 9:30am EST for eg) 2012-02-17 13:49:00+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2012-02-17 13:52:49+0000 <antoviaque> all good for today? 2012-02-17 13:52:57+0000 <blanchard> indeed 2012-02-17 13:54:44+0000 <mtyaka> yup 2012-02-17 13:57:31+0000 <arbrandes> yuppedy-doo 2012-02-17 14:28:13+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting 2012-02-17 14:28:13+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-02-17 14:28:13+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/552548 2012-02-17 14:57:37+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 15:18:05+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 15:26:49+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-17 16:06:41+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-17 16:52:27+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 17:21:40+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-17 18:03:37+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 19:05:11+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-17 19:44:39+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 20:12:34+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: hi, still here? 2012-02-17 20:15:49+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yup! 2012-02-17 20:16:08+0000 <mtyaka> I was looking at #760 2012-02-17 20:16:44+0000 <mtyaka> You're right that the way we currently do things isn't very generic 2012-02-17 20:17:23+0000 <mtyaka> But I'm having a hard time deciding what the best approach would be 2012-02-17 20:17:44+0000 <mtyaka> and I guess since we don't even know what we might need from a more generic approach 2012-02-17 20:17:52+0000 <mtyaka> (in the future, I mean) 2012-02-17 20:18:10+0000 <mtyaka> I would vote for the simplest thing that works now 2012-02-17 20:18:26+0000 <mtyaka> and abstract/generalize it latter, if we find a repeating pattern 2012-02-17 20:19:20+0000 <mtyaka> Is it true that the table poll only needs to happen once the game is in the complete state? 2012-02-17 20:28:40+0000 * antoviaque looking 2012-02-17 20:31:13+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: there are two examples already, with the tables and the activity, which both require to setup a poll 2012-02-17 20:31:22+0000 <antoviaque> but ok, I'll give my best guess, and we'll see : ) 2012-02-17 20:32:01+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep, although it doesn't hurt to have it permanently, the server-side expects this 2012-02-17 20:32:35+0000 <mtyaka> ok 2012-02-17 20:32:53+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for looking at it! 2012-02-17 20:32:57+0000 <mtyaka> and activity must always run, like chat, rightr? 2012-02-17 20:34:29+0000 <mtyaka> I actually still feel activity might be a good fit for a plugin - I imagine it would just listen to the poll and update some part of the UI 2012-02-17 20:34:48+0000 <mtyaka> (and wouldn't otherwise interfere with the game) 2012-02-17 20:34:59+0000 <mtyaka> but I may be wrong and over simplifying things again :) 2012-02-17 20:35:50+0000 <mtyaka> but if it for some reason isn't suitable to be a plugin, I'd just hardcode to add the 'activity' type into among the type polls where adding the polls 2012-02-17 20:36:29+0000 <mtyaka> (I think that actually happens in add_plugin_polls and another place, I would be nice if it only happened in one) 2012-02-17 20:36:45+0000 <mtyaka> You could do the same for the table poll 2012-02-17 20:36:56+0000 <mtyaka> (that would be the simplest thing for now) 2012-02-17 20:37:35+0000 <mtyaka> although since it only needs to run once the is complete... 2012-02-17 20:38:07+0000 <mtyaka> ... i was thinking, maybe poll_plugin could take an optional array of additional poll types to add to the request.... 2012-02-17 20:38:55+0000 <mtyaka> so that inside the 'complete' function, you would call something like this.poll_plugin(...., ['table']) 2012-02-17 20:39:11+0000 <mtyaka> but then 'poll_plugin' would need to be renamed because it's not for plugin polls anymore 2012-02-17 20:39:41+0000 <mtyaka> anyway I'm just streaming my thoughts 2012-02-17 20:40:01+0000 <mtyaka> I think if you just hardcode it, that would be perfectly fine for now 2012-02-17 20:40:45+0000 <mtyaka> And actually, what I wanted to ask you was, may I remove the code associated with the lobby? 2012-02-17 20:41:36+0000 <mtyaka> There's quite a lot of it and I always need to avoid it when studying how polls work (which I seem to have to do often lately :) 2012-02-17 20:56:56+0000 <mtyaka> (I just did it - feel free to ask me to revert) 2012-02-17 20:58:52+0000 * antoviaque reading 2012-02-17 20:59:39+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: I'm happy to do activity as a full plugin, yep : ) 2012-02-17 21:00:09+0000 <antoviaque> and yep, I'll try to see what I can do with the poll_plugin() function, looks like a good lead 2012-02-17 21:00:17+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to avoid overengenieering too ;p 2012-02-17 21:00:26+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: +1 pour le lobby 2012-02-17 21:00:33+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, cool :) 2012-02-17 21:00:35+0000 <antoviaque> there is actually a task for this, let me find it 2012-02-17 21:00:53+0000 <mtyaka> oh... I didn't know. 2012-02-17 21:01:29+0000 <antoviaque> ah, I see you created a new one : ) np, I'll just mark the old one as duplicate 2012-02-17 21:01:59+0000 <antoviaque> done 2012-02-17 21:02:07+0000 <mtyaka> thanks! 2012-02-17 21:02:09+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for doing this, will feel much cleaner : ) 2012-02-17 21:03:24+0000 <antoviaque> and thanks for your patience with me - I promise one day I'll be less of a pita, trying to improve : ) 2012-02-17 21:04:07+0000 <mtyaka> not a pita at all, these kind of things are worth discussing, imho 2012-02-17 21:06:05+0000 <antoviaque> agreed - but I'm a bit lost to propose good solutions for now 2012-02-17 21:34:58+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 mrjmad (mrjmad) is now online 2012-02-17 21:37:37+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2012-02-17 21:49:12+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 22:17:19+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 22:17:29+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2012-02-17 22:38:21+0000 mrjmad (mrjmad) is now online 2012-02-17 22:46:08+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting 2012-02-17 22:46:08+0000 * eve gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles 2012-02-17 22:46:32+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done test 1, test 2 2012-02-17 22:46:32+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-02-17 22:46:42+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next bla,blo,bli 2012-02-17 22:46:42+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan. 2012-02-17 22:46:51+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by test 1,test 2 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> antoviaque: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report: 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque worked on: 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * test 1 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * test 2 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque will be working on next: 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * bla 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * blo 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * bli 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> - What's blocking antoviaque: 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * test 1 2012-02-17 22:46:58+0000 <eve> * test 2 2012-02-17 22:47:08+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda? 2012-02-17 22:47:08+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda: 2012-02-17 22:47:08+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. test 1 2012-02-17 22:47:08+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 2. test 2 2012-02-17 22:47:13+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-17 22:47:13+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "test 1" (from antoviaque) 2012-02-17 22:47:18+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-17 22:47:18+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "test 2" (from antoviaque) 2012-02-17 22:47:23+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-17 22:47:23+0000 <eve> antoviaque: That's all folks! 2012-02-17 22:47:27+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting 2012-02-17 22:47:27+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-02-17 22:47:27+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/552800 2012-02-17 22:47:50+0000 <antoviaque> cool, eve learned well :p 2012-02-17 22:48:15+0000 <antoviaque> btw I also put the logs of meetings on http://logs.farsides.com/ , if you're into archeology 2012-02-17 23:16:35+0000 -niven.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? 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