Hi,
Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-02-20.
2012-02-20 05:45:44+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2012-02-20 07:35:14+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-02-20 08:54:26+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-02-20 11:01:13+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-02-20 13:01:33+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2012-02-20 13:13:15+0000 mathibus (mathibus) is now online
2012-02-20 13:23:42+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2012-02-20 13:29:46+0000 blanchard2 (blanchard2) is now online
2012-02-20 13:29:47+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-02-20 13:31:17+0000 <antoviaque> hello!
2012-02-20 13:31:34+0000 <arbrandes> mornin!
2012-02-20 13:31:38+0000 <blanchard2> hello
2012-02-20 13:31:43+0000 <mtyaka> hello!
2012-02-20 13:31:51+0000 <antoviaque> good morning arbrandes blanchard2 mtyaka
: )
2012-02-20 13:32:07+0000 <blanchard2> can't stay connected long right now,
connectivity issues :/
2012-02-20 13:32:11+0000 <antoviaque> some changes with eve today - the syntax
is slightly different : )
2012-02-20 13:32:17+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting
2012-02-20 13:32:17+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve:
(done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..."
2012-02-20 13:32:24+0000 <arbrandes> oooo, cool
2012-02-20 13:32:34+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Finished and submitted patches
for eve meeting, applied changes to our version of eve
2012-02-20 13:32:34+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:32:34+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next HS asked to work on projects
that put us out of our "comfort zone" and on which we don't usually work - so
I'm thinking of contributing to free software projects during the HS days
(suggestions of projects welcome! especially on stuff that we need), looking to
contribute to django
2012-02-20 13:32:34+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <antoviaque> Changes from code review on submitted eve
patch, integrate scrum daily meeting features (HS today and tomorrow)
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by nothing
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Glad to hear that
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report:
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque worked on:
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> * Finished and submitted patches for eve
meeting
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> * applied changes to our version of eve
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> * HS asked to work on projects that put us
out of our "comfort zone" and on which we don't usually work - so I'm thinking
of contributing to free software projects during the HS days (suggestions of
projects welcome! especially on stuff that we need)
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> * looking to contribute to django
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> - What's blocking antoviaque:
2012-02-20 13:32:35+0000 <eve> * nothing
2012-02-20 13:32:46+0000 <mtyaka> sweet :)
2012-02-20 13:32:49+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-20 13:33:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello!
2012-02-20 13:33:00+0000 <blanchard2> eve, done: N/A
2012-02-20 13:33:00+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:33:15+0000 <blanchard2> eve: done:N/A
2012-02-20 13:33:15+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Excuse me?
2012-02-20 13:33:16+0000 <mtyaka> haha
2012-02-20 13:33:22+0000 <blanchard2> eve: done: N/A
2012-02-20 13:33:22+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:33:34+0000 <blanchard2> pfff
2012-02-20 13:33:38+0000 <mtyaka> well, she's definitely more kind now
2012-02-20 13:33:49+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard2: it's next :p
2012-02-20 13:33:51+0000 <arbrandes> connection is gonna drop, brb
2012-02-20 13:33:52+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: hehehe
2012-02-20 13:33:54+0000 <blanchard2> hehe
2012-02-20 13:34:02+0000 <blanchard2> eve: done N/A
2012-02-20 13:34:03+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:34:14+0000 <blanchard2> wtf i'm lost
2012-02-20 13:34:16+0000 <antoviaque> and blocked by :p
2012-02-20 13:34:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I worked on my projects
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by none
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report:
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz worked on:
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> * I worked on my projects
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> * I'll work on my projects
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> * I'm almost finishing
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> - What's blocking tartarugafeliz:
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> * none
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll work on my projects.
I'm almost finishing!!
2012-02-20 13:34:29+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:34:34+0000 <antoviaque> \o/
2012-02-20 13:34:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I love that!!
2012-02-20 13:35:00+0000 <antoviaque> commas separate items btw (along with
dots and ;)
2012-02-20 13:35:00+0000 <blanchard2> eve: next a bit of consulting stuff
2012-02-20 13:35:00+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:35:42+0000 <mtyaka> I'm not sure if eve is trying to be nice or
is just mocking us :)
2012-02-20 13:35:49+0000 <blanchard2> hehe
2012-02-20 13:35:56+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, she keeps a nasty part :p
2012-02-20 13:36:33+0000 <blanchard2> anyway, i'm on the seafront in marseille,
i'll lose the connexion any minute, what do you say of that eve
2012-02-20 13:36:43+0000 <antoviaque> eve: what's the report from david
2012-02-20 13:36:44+0000 <eve> My notes of david's report:
2012-02-20 13:36:58+0000 <antoviaque> ...
2012-02-20 13:36:59+0000 <blanchard2> hehe
2012-02-20 13:37:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaha
2012-02-20 13:37:14+0000 <blanchard2> thx eve very nice
2012-02-20 13:37:15+0000 <antoviaque> what's my report
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <antoviaque> eve: what's my report
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report:
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque worked on:
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> * Finished and submitted patches for eve
meeting
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> * applied changes to our version of eve
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> * HS asked to work on projects that put us
out of our "comfort zone" and on which we don't usually work - so I'm thinking
of contributing to free software projects during the HS days (suggestions of
projects welcome! especially on stuff that we need)
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> * looking to contribute to django
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> - What's blocking antoviaque:
2012-02-20 13:37:21+0000 <eve> * nothing
2012-02-20 13:37:26+0000 <antoviaque> hmm
2012-02-20 13:37:32+0000 <blanchard2> antoviaque: show of !
2012-02-20 13:37:37+0000 <blanchard2> off
2012-02-20 13:37:42+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard2: can you type "eve: what's my
report" ?
2012-02-20 13:37:45+0000 <antoviaque> could be a bug
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <blanchard2> eve: what's my report
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard2's report:
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> - What blanchard2 worked on:
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> - What blanchard2 will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:37:55+0000 <eve> * a bit of consulting stuff
2012-02-20 13:37:56+0000 <antoviaque> ohh
2012-02-20 13:38:03+0000 * antoviaque is not awake
2012-02-20 13:38:04+0000 <blanchard2> hmmm
2012-02-20 13:38:13+0000 <antoviaque> not david, blanchard2 :p
2012-02-20 13:38:13+0000 <blanchard2> ah ok i get it
2012-02-20 13:38:31+0000 <blanchard2> you have to finish before she repliies
2012-02-20 13:38:36+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2012-02-20 13:39:24+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard2: you're missing the "blocked
by" line : )
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <blanchard2> eve: blocked by nothing
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> blanchard2: Glad to hear that
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard2's report:
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> - What blanchard2 worked on:
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> * N/A
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> - What blanchard2 will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> * a bit of consulting stuff
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> - What's blocking blanchard2:
2012-02-20 13:39:59+0000 <eve> * nothing
2012-02-20 13:40:06+0000 <blanchard2> wouhou
2012-02-20 13:40:07+0000 <antoviaque> perfect :)
2012-02-20 13:40:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> \o/
2012-02-20 13:40:17+0000 <antoviaque> \oooo/
2012-02-20 13:40:29+0000 <blanchard2> :)
2012-02-20 13:40:41+0000 <mathibus> hello all
2012-02-20 13:40:44+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: want to give it a try?: )
2012-02-20 13:40:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hi
2012-02-20 13:40:46+0000 <antoviaque> hey mathibus !
2012-02-20 13:40:58+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Did some code reviews, removed
lobby code from the codebase (#828), worked on improving 'New game' tabs
(#827), but got a bit stuck.
2012-02-20 13:40:58+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Excuse me?
2012-02-20 13:40:59+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Discuss whether to proceed with
#827 ('New game' tabs).
2012-02-20 13:41:00+0000 <eve> mtyaka: What?
2012-02-20 13:41:01+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers Need discussing #827 ('New
game' tabs).
2012-02-20 13:41:01+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry...
2012-02-20 13:41:05+0000 <mtyaka> aaaaaaa
2012-02-20 13:41:07+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah
2012-02-20 13:41:15+0000 <mtyaka> eve: done Did some code reviews, removed
lobby code from the codebase (#828), worked on improving 'New game' tabs (#827)
but got a bit stuck.
2012-02-20 13:41:15+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:41:17+0000 <mtyaka> eve: next Discuss whether to proceed with
#827.
2012-02-20 13:41:17+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blocked by #827.
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> mtyaka: We'll need to solve that later, I'm
adding it to the agenda
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> My notes of mtyaka's report:
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka worked on:
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * Did some code reviews
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * removed lobby code from the codebase
(#828)
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * worked on improving 'New game' tabs
(#827) but got a bit stuck
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * Discuss whether to proceed with #827
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What's blocking mtyaka:
2012-02-20 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * #827
2012-02-20 13:41:54+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-02-20 13:42:01+0000 <antoviaque> btw eve also maintains an agenda now,
populated by items from the "blocked by", or by stuff from "agenda+ <tttt>"
2012-02-20 13:42:08+0000 <mathibus> eve: done a short design document with
ideas to discuss about the players retention improvement
2012-02-20 13:42:08+0000 <eve> mathibus: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:42:47+0000 <antoviaque> eve: minutes so far
2012-02-20 13:42:48+0000 <eve> Minutes available at
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/553933
2012-02-20 13:42:55+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: what you missed ^
2012-02-20 13:43:09+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, connection is kinda shitty right
now
2012-02-20 13:43:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> quite impressive!
2012-02-20 13:43:21+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-20 13:44:12+0000 <mtyaka> very nice indeed!
2012-02-20 13:44:21+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done continued on #769 (xp backend),
nothing worth commiting yet, though.
2012-02-20 13:44:21+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job!
2012-02-20 13:44:21+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by nada.
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Glad to hear that
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report:
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes worked on:
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> * continued on #769 (xp backend)
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> * nothing worth commiting yet
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> * though
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes will be working on next:
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> * continue on #769
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> - What's blocking arbrandes:
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> * nada
2012-02-20 13:44:21+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next continue on #769!
2012-02-20 13:44:22+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:44:30+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: cool, I need to have a look at
this document :D
2012-02-20 13:44:46+0000 <arbrandes> lol, eve's all polite and stuff
2012-02-20 13:44:53+0000 <antoviaque> did you post it on the buddypress or on
the ticket tracker?
2012-02-20 13:44:57+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: rofl :p
2012-02-20 13:45:14+0000 <mathibus> eve : next still working on design when
i've time to do it
2012-02-20 13:45:15+0000 <eve> mathibus: Quite a plan.
2012-02-20 13:45:44+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: yeah sure, i'd like to discuss
it with you to se what i could do next
2012-02-20 13:46:04+0000 <mathibus> i didn't post it yet
2012-02-20 13:46:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I want to see the document too
mathibus!!
2012-02-20 13:46:21+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: cool, think you'll be able to
have something ready for tomorrow's release?
2012-02-20 13:46:42+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: ok - I'll have a look when you
finish it then : )
2012-02-20 13:46:42+0000 <mathibus> it's a kind of rough for the moment, don't
know if it's a good idea to put it on thebuddypress
2012-02-20 13:46:54+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm gonna do my best!
2012-02-20 13:46:58+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2012-02-20 13:47:21+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: as you feel it's right - if
feedback would help you, post it, otherwise when you think it's worth getting
comments on
2012-02-20 13:47:25+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok! :D
2012-02-20 13:47:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda?
2012-02-20 13:47:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda:
2012-02-20 13:47:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. #827
2012-02-20 13:47:39+0000 <mathibus> yeah i need feedback
2012-02-20 13:47:47+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: then post yep :p
2012-02-20 13:47:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-02-20 13:48:07+0000 <antoviaque> anything else to add to the agenda before
we discuss #827?
2012-02-20 13:48:20+0000 <arbrandes> not from me
2012-02-20 13:48:22+0000 <antoviaque> (if you do, type "eve: agenda+ <bla bla>"
2012-02-20 13:48:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> nope
2012-02-20 13:48:37+0000 <blanchard2> marseille is beautiful
2012-02-20 13:48:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I love it too!
2012-02-20 13:48:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for how long you stay there?
2012-02-20 13:49:13+0000 <antoviaque> wait wait :p putting it in the agenda :p
2012-02-20 13:49:16+0000 <blanchard2> dunno yet :)
2012-02-20 13:49:21+0000 <blanchard2> hehe
2012-02-20 13:49:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ooohhhh
2012-02-20 13:49:24+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ eve is beautiful [blanchard2]
2012-02-20 13:49:24+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "eve is beautiful" to
the agenda
2012-02-20 13:49:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahaha
2012-02-20 13:49:33+0000 * antoviaque is all happy to play :p
2012-02-20 13:49:33+0000 <arbrandes> lol
2012-02-20 13:49:34+0000 <blanchard2> wtf
2012-02-20 13:49:35+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2012-02-20 13:49:40+0000 <blanchard2> :)
2012-02-20 13:49:43+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-20 13:49:43+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "#827"
(from mtyaka)
2012-02-20 13:49:44+0000 <arbrandes> eve: agenda?
2012-02-20 13:49:44+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Here is the current agenda:
2012-02-20 13:49:44+0000 <eve> arbrandes: 1. #827 (current)
2012-02-20 13:49:44+0000 <eve> arbrandes: 2. eve is beautiful
2012-02-20 13:50:00+0000 * antoviaque looking at #827
2012-02-20 13:50:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> uau! I can't believe I actually like
eve now
2012-02-20 13:50:10+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2012-02-20 13:50:14+0000 <blanchard2> tartarugafeliz: :)
2012-02-20 13:50:53+0000 <mtyaka> The thing about #827 is that it is much more
complicated than I expected
2012-02-20 13:51:02+0000 <blanchard2> need to move connzxion will be lost, bbl
2012-02-20 13:51:11+0000 <arbrandes> l8r, blanchard2
2012-02-20 13:51:12+0000 <mtyaka> It will take 1 - 2 days to finish
2012-02-20 13:51:26+0000 <mtyaka> So I wanted to make sure we really want to do
this before I proceed
2012-02-20 13:52:51+0000 <mtyaka> also, it is sort of connected to tables - I
think there's a task that antoviaque is working on, about loading the next game
from the table in the same tab
2012-02-20 13:53:05+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep, it's tricky
2012-02-20 13:53:18+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: have you done anything about that
yet? Or do you have ideas how to do it?
2012-02-20 13:53:48+0000 <mathibus> the doc has been uploaded on buddypress
2012-02-20 13:53:56+0000 <mathibus> waiting your your comments
2012-02-20 13:54:16+0000 <mathibus> and antoviaque when you have time to
discuss it, let me know
2012-02-20 13:54:54+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: did you think about the
possibility of creating a game sooner? ie instead of waiting for the author to
have entered wentence+card, create the game as soon as the author arrives in
"new game"? I have thought many times in the past that the current way of doing
it creates lots of unecessary edge cases
2012-02-20 13:55:30+0000 <antoviaque> we could just treat games being created
the same way, and we could even allow players to go there while the author is
creating his game, etc.
2012-02-20 13:55:43+0000 <antoviaque> would not be trivial though
2012-02-20 13:56:08+0000 <mtyaka> I didn't think about that, it's an
interesting idea
2012-02-20 13:56:25+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: nope, not yet - it's the last two
tsks on which I had questions on Friday - will only be able to workon it on
Wednesday
2012-02-20 13:56:29+0000 <arbrandes> definitely not, if I'm not mistaken a lot
of the game stuff depends on there being a sentence
2012-02-20 13:56:51+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: which ones?
2012-02-20 13:58:34+0000 * antoviaque looking at the code
2012-02-20 13:59:41+0000 <arbrandes> but it is an interesting idea, I agree.
2012-02-20 14:00:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, I'm not sure about the
quantity of work required, I suspect it's not small yes
2012-02-20 14:01:42+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: want to investigate it, and check
what would be involved?
2012-02-20 14:01:57+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, I'm already thinking about it :)
2012-02-20 14:02:01+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe
2012-02-20 14:02:02+0000 <mtyaka> I think I really like the idea
2012-02-20 14:02:27+0000 <mtyaka> It would definitely make many things easier
2012-02-20 14:02:39+0000 <mtyaka> But need to check how many things it would
make harder :)
2012-02-20 14:02:44+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-20 14:03:37+0000 <antoviaque> ok, we can rediscuss it when you have the
elements - abrandes would that be ok? want to check the issues with the
dependency on having a sentence?
2012-02-20 14:04:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> mathibus: I'm reading your document!
:D Did you ever play LocoRoco? :D
2012-02-20 14:05:16+0000 <mathibus> yes, love it :)
2012-02-20 14:05:36+0000 <arbrandes> Well, the sentence dependency I referred
to is basically investigating all cases where a sentence is obviously expected
and dealing with it. For one, it probably means there would be a new game
state, wouldn't it?
2012-02-20 14:05:38+0000 * antoviaque had a quick glance over tartarugafeliz's
should, and *REALLY* liked what he read (about the petit prince-like
storytelling :p)
2012-02-20 14:05:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when you talked about the planets it
came to my mind immediately, I really like your ideas!
2012-02-20 14:05:50+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: will definitely read that doc
today :D
2012-02-20 14:06:08+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yes, I image we would need a new
state
2012-02-20 14:06:26+0000 <mtyaka> s/image/imagine
2012-02-20 14:06:27+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, at least one, if not two
eventually (pick+sentence)
2012-02-20 14:06:54+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: cool !
2012-02-20 14:07:14+0000 <mathibus> thanks tartaruga :)
2012-02-20 14:07:56+0000 <mathibus> i had the idea reminding the petit prince
actually
2012-02-20 14:07:56+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: arbrandes: so let's discuss it
again tomorrow then - ok?
2012-02-20 14:08:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I really like the introduction to the
CS universe, I think the players would like to be immerse on it like that
2012-02-20 14:08:21+0000 <mtyaka> yup, talk about it tomorrow
2012-02-20 14:08:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve: topic mathibus's doc
2012-02-20 14:08:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "mathibus's
doc" (from antoviaque)
2012-02-20 14:09:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> now I don't know if facebook is a
good idea though⦠because nobody uses the games on facebook like before
anymore. for me for instance, I *never* see any kind of posts or likes for
games on my timeline anymore
2012-02-20 14:09:47+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: only the ones you
actively play show up now
2012-02-20 14:10:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> even though I know some friends still
play games, its not as easy to get players on facebook like 1 or 2 years ago
2012-02-20 14:10:08+0000 <antoviaque> so yep, it's not the gold mine it used to
be
2012-02-20 14:10:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> exactly
2012-02-20 14:10:43+0000 <antoviaque> there are some stuff we could do better
though - like to invite friends for example
2012-02-20 14:10:51+0000 <mathibus> i don't know because when you see the
people playing games such as cityville, farmville, and whateverville
2012-02-20 14:10:54+0000 <mathibus> it's huge !!
2012-02-20 14:11:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hmmm I don't think its that huge
anymore⦠that's the thing
2012-02-20 14:11:24+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: usually the growth relies on a
*lot* of advertizing spending and cross-game promotion
2012-02-20 14:11:53+0000 <antoviaque> compared to a few years ago when you
could get "viral" growth from just status updates
2012-02-20 14:11:59+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, rother that
2012-02-20 14:12:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> exactly
2012-02-20 14:12:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> now status updates annoys people
2012-02-20 14:12:44+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: but we can certainly experiment
some stuff, I'll have a look (and we don't even need to be "in" facebook,
facebook connect gives a lot to play with)
2012-02-20 14:12:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-02-20 14:13:19+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-20 14:13:19+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "eve is
beautiful" (from blanchard2)
2012-02-20 14:13:23+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2012-02-20 14:13:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahahah
2012-02-20 14:13:27+0000 <antoviaque> crazy guy
2012-02-20 14:13:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very charming
2012-02-20 14:13:49+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-20 14:13:49+0000 <eve> antoviaque: That's all folks!
2012-02-20 14:14:00+0000 <antoviaque> ok! thanks everyone : )
2012-02-20 14:14:04+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting
2012-02-20 14:14:04+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2012-02-20 14:14:04+0000 <eve> Minutes available at
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/553954
2012-02-20 14:19:53+0000 <mathibus> i think that "update status" and "like
feature" can be used differently with CS.
2012-02-20 14:21:02+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: I guess it's in the doc which i
didn't read yet : ) but how differently?
2012-02-20 14:21:20+0000 <antoviaque> (sounds interesting btw, I don't think we
have thought enough about those parts)
2012-02-20 14:22:09+0000 <mathibus> it is not wrote on the doc i think, but if
we keep the idea of story rating, the "like" is a system which could use to do
it
2012-02-20 14:22:41+0000 <mathibus> as we spoke few weeks ago
2012-02-20 14:23:07+0000 <mathibus> people would be gald to see that "liking"
something, would have a new impact
2012-02-20 14:24:57+0000 <mathibus> the same could be done with status may be:
for example, if someone post his story, it could be promoted on the main page
of CS, as story of the day ?
2012-02-20 14:25:46+0000 <mathibus> i thought about facebook when i started to
think about new features. I realised that it would take a lot of improvement to
get a better player retention
2012-02-20 14:27:18+0000 <mathibus> but if we use the tools of fb + its
community potential, may be it could give a kick-start to the game
2012-02-20 14:28:32+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: ahhh, interesting yep
2012-02-20 14:28:38+0000 <mathibus> i didn't make any maketing research about
it, its only supposition about what i see, but may be it would interesting to
discuss it with people more aware about that
2012-02-20 14:29:21+0000 <antoviaque> the likes are definitely a way to make
the games appear in the status updates, yep
2012-02-20 14:29:52+0000 <mathibus> free ad
2012-02-20 14:30:11+0000 <antoviaque> technically, I'm not sure how we can mix
both (ie, know when a given player "liked" a story, or how to handle players
who don't use FB)
2012-02-20 14:30:17+0000 <antoviaque> but worth investigating yep
2012-02-20 14:30:55+0000 <antoviaque> actually it makes a lot of sense, kudos
for the idea mathibus
2012-02-20 14:31:37+0000 * antoviaque reading the doc
2012-02-20 14:31:56+0000 <mathibus> hehe thanks
2012-02-20 14:34:53+0000 <mathibus> and if we want to look further, the
"metagoal system" could be implemented with the fb mechanics as well. ie : if
the players wants more, they need to play more. It could be a kind of pact
between the dev and the players
2012-02-20 14:35:26+0000 <antoviaque> how would that work?
2012-02-20 14:35:41+0000 * antoviaque finished reading the doc
2012-02-20 14:35:52+0000 <antoviaque> yep, the storytelling of planet is pretty
cool
2012-02-20 14:35:58+0000 <antoviaque> *planets
2012-02-20 14:36:38+0000 <mathibus> "guys if you like the game and you wants
more cards, and more game modes, etc" keep playing, liking, and growing the
community
2012-02-20 14:37:11+0000 <mathibus> thks fot the storytelling :)
2012-02-20 14:38:01+0000 <mathibus> like "milestone" for the players : such as
: new bunch of new cards when the players would have wrote 10000 stories
2012-02-20 14:38:22+0000 <antoviaque> ah, community goals are nice yep
2012-02-20 14:38:25+0000 <mathibus> i involve the player in the process
2012-02-20 14:38:36+0000 <mathibus> since you've done it already
2012-02-20 14:38:49+0000 <mathibus> i think it is coherent
2012-02-20 14:38:55+0000 <antoviaque> definitely
2012-02-20 14:39:09+0000 <mathibus> and kind of new on fb (for what i kjow
about it)
2012-02-20 14:40:32+0000 <antoviaque> To complete the document, here are a few
points which would be good to have details on: 1) how the likes would relate to
the metagoal, more precisely, 2) how do we mix players while they are in the
tutorial phase? (to make sure the new players help populating games of
recurring players, at least until we solved the chicken&egg issue) and 3) how
community goals would be visualized in the game (and what would they be)
2012-02-20 14:41:59+0000 <antoviaque> and maybe 4) give a step-by-step example
of the tutorial phase, like the first 1-2 games
2012-02-20 14:42:26+0000 <antoviaque> (and in all of this, remember to keep it
as small as possible, so that we can try to experiment with it quickly : ) )
2012-02-20 14:45:11+0000 <antoviaque> ah and for 1), how it would also relate
to the leveling as it is being implemented right now (maybe it's two completely
separate things, but would be good to think about it)
2012-02-20 14:46:20+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: that's a lot though : )
2012-02-20 14:48:49+0000 mathibus (mathibus) is now online
2012-02-20 14:49:06+0000 <mathibus> sorry my computer crashed
2012-02-20 14:49:20+0000 <mathibus> i din't had the time to read your requests
2012-02-20 14:49:32+0000 <mathibus> could you send it once again plz
2012-02-20 14:53:00+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: yop
2012-02-20 14:53:10+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2012-02-20 14:53:18+0000 <antoviaque> 09:40 <antoviaque> To complete the
document, here are a few points which would be good to have details on: 1) how
the likes would relate to the metagoal, more precisely, 2) how do we mix
players while they are in the tutorial phase? (to make sure the new players
help populating games of recurring players, at least until we solved the
chicken&egg issue) and 3) how community goals would be visualized in the game
(and what would they
2012-02-20 14:53:19+0000 <antoviaque> be)
2012-02-20 14:53:19+0000 <antoviaque> 09:42 <antoviaque> and maybe 4) give a
step-by-step example of the tutorial phase, like the first 1-2 games
2012-02-20 14:53:19+0000 <antoviaque> 09:42 <antoviaque> (and in all of this,
remember to keep it as small as possible, so that we can try to experiment with
it quickly : ) )
2012-02-20 14:53:19+0000 <antoviaque> 09:45 <antoviaque> ah and for 1), how it
would also relate to the leveling as it is being implemented right now (maybe
it's two completely separate things, but would be good to think about it)
2012-02-20 14:53:50+0000 <antoviaque> btw I have to run, be back online in
about 1 hour
2012-02-20 14:54:00+0000 mathibus_ (mathibus_) is now online
2012-02-20 14:54:17+0000 <mathibus_> antoviaque: disconnected once again -_-'
2012-02-20 14:54:20+0000 <antoviaque> hehe
2012-02-20 14:54:34+0000 <antoviaque> I'm putting it as an answer on the
buddypress, will be easier : )
2012-02-20 14:54:42+0000 <mathibus_> this macbook pro is diying...
2012-02-20 14:54:47+0000 <mathibus_> ok perfect !
2012-02-20 14:55:03+0000 <mathibus_> thank you
2012-02-20 14:56:19+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus_:
http://farsides.com/members/mathibus/activity/2075/
2012-02-20 14:56:27+0000 <antoviaque> ok, brb in about 1 hour
2012-02-20 14:59:07+0000 <mathibus_> ok
2012-02-20 16:02:32+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2012-02-20 16:36:13+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-02-20 19:25:58+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: hey, any chance you are around?
2012-02-20 19:26:08+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep : )
2012-02-20 19:27:41+0000 <mtyaka> great :)
2012-02-20 19:28:28+0000 <mtyaka> I've had a quick look at what it would take
to create the game when the window is first opened
2012-02-20 19:28:41+0000 <mtyaka> there would be quite some work to do, but I
don't see any blockers
2012-02-20 19:28:51+0000 <antoviaque> cool!
2012-02-20 19:29:09+0000 <mtyaka> yeah :)
2012-02-20 19:29:25+0000 <mtyaka> now I've got an hour or two left, so I was
thinking of finding a task to work on
2012-02-20 19:29:44+0000 <mtyaka> because I'm stuck on the 'New game' tabs one
2012-02-20 19:30:15+0000 <antoviaque> yes, a small one then : ) want
suggestions?
2012-02-20 19:30:41+0000 <mtyaka> yup, a nice short one :)
2012-02-20 19:31:05+0000 <antoviaque> :) let me see if I can find one
2012-02-20 19:32:43+0000 <antoviaque> ah, you can probably pick one of the
"polish" tickets: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/777
2012-02-20 19:32:54+0000 <antoviaque> some are small
2012-02-20 19:33:34+0000 <antoviaque> not sure if they will fit in 1 hour though
2012-02-20 19:34:18+0000 <mtyaka> #443 may not be relevant anymore, with the
new UI, right?
2012-02-20 19:34:58+0000 <antoviaque> true, I'm going to close that one
2012-02-20 19:36:39+0000 <antoviaque> done
2012-02-20 19:36:45+0000 <mtyaka> I can do #777 - friendlier panic messages
2012-02-20 19:36:59+0000 <antoviaque> yup, that one should fit : )
2012-02-20 19:37:14+0000 <mtyaka> ok, cool! Thanks :)
2012-02-20 19:37:20+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'm going to move the ticket to the
sprint
2012-02-20 19:37:26+0000 <antoviaque> thanks to you!
2012-02-20 19:40:00+0000 <antoviaque> Done - I've put it in the "bugs" story,
if you need to find it - not really a bug, but was lazy to create a new
"polish" story :p
2012-02-20 19:40:37+0000 <mtyaka> ok, got it
2012-02-20 22:08:04+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
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