On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:43 AM Bruno Friedmann <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Thursday 03 September 2015 19.24:36 Michael Mol wrote:
> > The Bareos Yum repositories haven't been updated in quite some time; for
> > the 14.2 series, the Yum repositories' latest package is 14.2.2 (released
> > 2014-12-12). The next official release on the 14.2 branch was on
> > 2015-02-02, seven months ago, and 14.2.4 was released almost six months
> ago.
> >
> > I filed a ticket a bit over a week ago (
> > https://bugs.bareos.org/view.php?id=509 ), but I haven't seen it so
> much as
> > acknowledged. I queried on IRC a couple days ago about what a polite way
> to
> > get developer attention to the ticket would be, and got no reply.
> >
> > So...what's a good, polite way to get the developers to update the yum
> > repos? Filing a ticket has not yet helped.
> >
> >
> It seems you don't have completely understood how the repositories are
> working.
>

Yeah, after my email to this list, Stephan and Joerg reponsed and closed
the ticket, respectively, with the relevant information.


>
> The binaries are released once a version is estimated stable enough
> last time the version was 14.2.2
> This is what you've got publicly available on download.bareos.org
>
> Afterward, if a very blocking bug is found, (was the case in 12x series if
> my
> memory is right) another build may be published.
>
> It's up to you, if you need last binaries to
> a) pick the source and build from there
>

Probably going to do this. Your git repository includes the release tags,
so I can set up a Jenkins VM to periodically pull from Git, scan for new
release tags, build the packages I need and stuff them into my own repo.
(No trouble with AGPL3 here; I've no problem sharing any changes I make
back upstream, and I've no problem ensuring the source is available
downstream. As a courtesy, I can restrict the RPMs' distribution to within
my organization.)


> b) Buy a subscription, download.bareos.com has always the last new
> version build
> and available here.
>

I've had a look at the price list. It's not going to work for me for the
same reason Bacula's price list didn't work for me; too many seats, and I'm
an MSP, so it gets sticky if I want to use subscribed Bareos packages on
more than one environment I manage. Better to avoid the whole mess
altogether. Which I did with Bacula, but I didn't catch that Bareos only
publicly released binaries for one minor out of each major version.


> c) May be there a third way, if you can monitor, and help on the build
> process.
> (no warranty)
>

I can feed back to you guys the scripts and processes for what I have to
build to do the same internally. That won't be a problem.


>
> Why such a way may you ask?
> Building and maintaining an open source project, need $$$ to pay bills.
> The price of the subscription is very low honestly.
>
> I hope this help you to better know how it works.
>

The price may be low relative to other offerings, but it's not low enough
for my environment. I understand where you're coming from, and I only have
two problems with contributing: Time and money. But any work I need to do
to get this working for me, I can share back upstream. That doesn't cost me
a thing.

Truth be told, if I hadn't gotten a reply, I was going to go build the
latest released 14.2 version anyway, and see if that solved the problem. If
it didn't, I was going to dust off my native code developer hat and dig in.
It's just that I always resist doing that in each case until I've gone
through proper channels. Of course, any alterations I make would get pushed
back upstream.

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