Rob, and any one on the Baroque list,
All gut basses take a very log time to settle-in completely, and go
on improving for a surprisingly long time.
However, when I said that to David v. O., he told me it could be my
playing adapting to the strings, rather than the string developping.
I am sure that is partly so, and Ed described the change of technique
needed for gut basses rather well, in a recent message, see here at
http://tinyurl.com/2dft7b
However, I haven't had metal wounds for over 30 years; although,
admittedly, I did have a 20 years or so break in my playing (so I am
"new-old stock", as they describe some vintage valves that have
hardly been played in).
Again, when I changed recently from Pistoy to Venice on the 5th course,
the Venice took about 6 months to develop. I can't believe that my
technique has had to adapt that much when going from a gut-tress to a
gut-twine. I think it really IS the string settling in.
Having said that it does take a long time for someone used to
wirewounds, simply to get use to the different sound and feel of gut
basses, that you have to make sing rather than damp.
When you have played for a long time with a particular string type,
the "tea or coffee syndrome" inevtiably develops. By that I mean,
people do become used to one type of tea or coffee, and everything
else tastes wrong to them, even when the tea or coffee, in question
might be tea-bags and robusta.
Regards
Anthony
Le 14 dec. 07 =E0 11:49, Rob a ecrit :
> Thanks Theo and Anthony,
>
> Yes, these gimped strings are new to me, the Pistoys too. So it's
> not just a
> case of getting used to 11 courses and new repertoire, but new
> strings also.
> I will doubtless experiment a bit over time, but gut basses are
> expensive!
> I'd love to hear your Andy Rutherford 11c, Theo, and Anthony's
> Gottlieb when
> it arrives. Mary Burwell said the French fashion was for a single 11th
> course - I might try that with a thicker fundamental.
>
> I'm probably finished recording for the moment, but might take you
> up on the
> idea of recording the same piece in a couple of months, just to see
> what
> differences there are.
>
> Rob
>
> www.rmguitar.info
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: T. Diehl-Peshkur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 December 2007 10:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new sound file for 11c
>
> Hi Rob,
> Thanks for the link, very nice!
> From my own experience, I picked up my Andy Rutherford 11 course
> about a 2
> months ago, all gut, with gimped basses
> from Larson.
> The basses developed quite dramatically in the first few month-
> especially
> after working on them vigorously for some time.
> I think it is a combination of the string developing as well as the
> soundboard.
> My suspicion is that in about a month or two, those basses of yours
> are
> going to be quite different.
> It would be fun to record the same piece again at that time to see
> what
> happens!
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
>
> From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:19:14 -0000
> To: <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] new sound file for 11c
>
> I've made an mp3 of the Chaconne in Am by de Visee with my right
> hand little
> finger resting on the bridge. This technique is depicted in a
> number of
> paintings and seems to work well with all-gut strings. I once tried
> it on a
> lute strung in nylon and it sounded quite poor. I think it works
> well with
> gut, so might try to adopt it as my 11c technique. On the other
> hand (not
> literally) the famous painting/engraving of Mouton has his hand a
> little
> further from the bridge with little finger on the sound board, but
> still
> nowhere near the rose.
>
>
>
> The gimped strings seem to have settled.
>
>
>
> Here it is: http://www.rmguitar.info/Maler.htm - scroll to the
> bottom of the
> page.
>
>
>
> Man, I love this lute! Please excuse all this sudden enthusiasm!
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> www.rmguitar.info
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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