Thanks Markus, it did go astray.
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From: "Markus Lutz" <mar...@gmlutz.de>
To: "A. J. Ness" <arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?
Hi Arthur,
seems as if this email should be send to the baroque lute list, isn't it?
Best regards
Markus
Am 05.03.2011 06:08, schrieb A. J. Ness:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Wilke"<[1]chriswi...@yahoo.com>
To: "wikla"<[2]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; "A. J. Ness"
<[3]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Cc: "Charles Browne"<[4]char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk>; "Baroque
Lute List"<[5]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?
Arthur,
--- On Fri, 3/4/11, A. J. Ness<[6]arthurjn...@verizon.net> wrote:
> By the way, did you notice that the Lachrimae motive is sounded in
tghe
> lower line at the
> beginnig of Gallot's "L'Amat malheureux" (No. 98)? Weiss also made
an
> arrangement of that piece.
It just so happens that in a few hours I'll be giving my
doctoral
lecture recital at Eastman. The topic is Weiss's use of timbre and I
discuss these versions in my presentation.
<<AJN>> Good luck! How I wish I could be there to hear you talk and
play. I once planned a talk on "L'Amat malheureux," but someone else
on the program chose the same topic, so I had to move on. to
something
else. It wanted to relate it to the lament. Anyway best of luck
with
your lecture this evening. In Kilbourne Hall? (You know I studied
at
Eastman.) Opps! I meant to send this yesterday afternoon. I am
certain your presentation was a wonderful success. I hope you will
write it up for the Lute Society of America Quarterly, or its
Journal.
I think this amply demonstrates why Arto is calling for more
uniformity in naming as well as connecting names with catalog
numbers.
There is the version of L'Amant Malheureux in London with the number
LbmI, which is easy enough to find.
<<AJN>> Don't let me get started it's too close to dinner. But the
careless naming lute manuscripts is one of my pet peeves. And I join
Arto in his complaints. Too often the names are not chosen correctly,
and the incorrect name results in misunderstandings about the nature
of
the works contained within the manuscript. You'll have to let me
leave
a list of examples for later. I was discussing the topic with Steve
Immel (proprietor of Old Music and Incunabula) at the recent annual
meeting of the Music Library Association in Philadelphia. And I
purchased a facsimile of "other half" of a misnamed lute manuscript,
the Nauclerus Lute Book. Not to be mistaken for the
Bakfark-Nauclerus
Manucript which is misnamed.<g> P.S. recte Bakfark-Nauclerus Codex
<<AJN>>The Bakfark-Nauclerus manuscript has pieces attributed to "VB"
(concordances show it is Valentin Bakfark) and MN, which the person
naming the manuscript thought to be M. Nauclerus, because one pieces
seems to read "M. Naucl." But it read "Neud," an abbreviation for
Neusidler, whose authorship of the pieces attr. to "MN" can be
confirmed through concordances as Melchior News idler (son, not
brother
of Hans N.).
But then there is the version in g minor in PnVmc61. This is
the
so-called "Paris" manuscript. Not just the Paris manuscript, the
"Paris Thibault" manuscript. Not just the Paris Thibault manuscript,
ONE of the Paris Thibault manuscripts. I can't recall which volume
number off the top of my head even though I've recently researched
it.
This number is of course not connected with its current catalog
number.
<<AJN>> I have a guide to the Thibault manucripts on my web
site. [7]http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/thibault.html
There are also the two versions (allemande en double and gigue)
in
ROI. The Deutsche Lautengelsellschaft recently published this as the
"Rohrau" manuscript, but in English we're apparently calling it
"Harrach I and II." Tim Crawford has an excellent discussion of this
source in a recent LSA Journal. This is not to be confused (but
undoubtedly will be by some) with the already known "Harrach"
manuscript in New York.
<<AJN>>The Pachelbel works in Nuremberg are also from Harrach, I
believe, as well as sinfonias /concertinos in pitch notatoin that Bob
Spencer owned. One is on my web site:
[8]http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/sinfonia.ht
ml
Regards, Arthur.
Chris
Christopher Wilke
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
[9]www.christopherwilke.com
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