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Nothing like this monster though. Body width 335 Depth 233


David

At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
>    Two other well known lutes by Johann Christian in the Brussels
>    collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater than half the
>    width (roughly 0.57):
>    Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495; width 323; depth
>    185
>    Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188): 496;  322; 181
>    regards
>    Martyn
>      __________________________________________________________________
>
>    From: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net>
>    To: baroque-lute <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>    Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08
>    Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14 course swan-neck
>    lute in Leipzing
>      Dear common wisdom,
>      a couple of years ago I stumbled upon the Leipzig Museum website,
>      planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition (but had to pass on it,
>      unfortunately) - then one day realized that the pictured Hoffmann
>      swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012, says the YouTube video)
>      mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at the second pegbox (2x1, 6x2,
>      6x2).
>      See [1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's
>    the
>      first instrument pictured under Johann Christian Hoffmann' section on
>      the page.
>      It's a really strange instrument with an incredibly deep body (it
>    must
>      be uneasy to hold, or at least it looks so).
>      I'm sure the book about Hoffmann they sell
>
>    ([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christia
>    n-h
>      offmann.html) has all the measures about that instrument, but that
>    book
>      is really kind of expensive. The Museum's website doesn't talk about
>      string length and date on this lute (I do read German and couldn't
>    find
>      the infos anywhere on the website)
>      The YouTube video on the same page shows a German lutenist (Sven
>      Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-neck lute, which is of course
>      not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows 13 courses, as usual.
>      Anybody out there who has more details about it?
>      Thanks a lot,
>      Luca
>      --
>    References
>      1. [3]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php
>      2.
>    [4]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-ho
>    ffmann.html
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>    3. http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php
>    4.
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<div>At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&nbsp;&nbsp; Two other well known lutes
by Johann Christian in the Brussels<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater
than half the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; width (roughly 0.57):<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495;
width 323; depth<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 185<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188):
496;&nbsp; 322; 181<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; regards<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Martyn<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
__________________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Luca Manassero &lt;l...@manassero.net&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; To: baroque-lute
&lt;baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14
course swan-neck<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; lute in Leipzing<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dear common wisdom,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a couple of years ago I stumbled upon the
Leipzig Museum website,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition
(but had to pass on it,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; unfortunately) - then one day realized that
the pictured Hoffmann<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012,
says the YouTube video)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at the
second pegbox (2x1, 6x2,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6x2).<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; See
[1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; first instrument pictured under Johann
Christian Hoffmann' section on<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the page.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It's a really strange instrument with an
incredibly deep body (it<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; must<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be uneasy to hold, or at least it looks
so).<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sure the book about Hoffmann they
sell<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christ<span
></span>ia<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; n-h<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; offmann.html) has all the measures about that
instrument, but that<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; book<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is really kind of expensive. The Museum's
website doesn't talk about<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; string length and date on this lute (I do
read German and couldn't<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; find<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the infos anywhere on the website)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The YouTube video on the same page shows a
German lutenist (Sven<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-neck
lute, which is of course<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows
13 courses, as usual.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Anybody out there who has more details about
it?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks a lot,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Luca<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; References<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.
[3]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
[4]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-<span
></span>ho<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; ffmann.html<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; To get on or off this list see list information at<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
[5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Virus-free. [6]www.avast.com<br>
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References<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Visible links<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.
http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.
http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-h<br
>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.
http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.
http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-hof<span
></span>fmann.html<br>
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http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html<br>
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