I forgot that this list doesn't show images so here's a link instead to the monster. Beware!
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/Hoffmann.htm

David


At 14:21 +0000 13/2/18, David Van Edwards wrote:
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Nothing like this monster though. Body width 335 Depth 233


David

At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
    Two other well known lutes by Johann Christian in the Brussels
    collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater than half the
    width (roughly 0.57):
    Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495; width 323; depth
    185
    Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188): 496;  322; 181
    regards
    Martyn
      __________________________________________________________________

    From: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net>
    To: baroque-lute <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
    Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08
    Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14 course swan-neck
    lute in Leipzing
      Dear common wisdom,
      a couple of years ago I stumbled upon the Leipzig Museum website,
      planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition (but had to pass on it,
      unfortunately) - then one day realized that the pictured Hoffmann
      swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012, says the YouTube video)
      mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at the second pegbox (2x1, 6x2,
      6x2).
      See [1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's
    the
      first instrument pictured under Johann Christian Hoffmann' section on
      the page.
      It's a really strange instrument with an incredibly deep body (it
    must
      be uneasy to hold, or at least it looks so).
      I'm sure the book about Hoffmann they sell

    ([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christia
    n-h
      offmann.html) has all the measures about that instrument, but that
    book
      is really kind of expensive. The Museum's website doesn't talk about
      string length and date on this lute (I do read German and couldn't
    find
      the infos anywhere on the website)
      The YouTube video on the same page shows a German lutenist (Sven
      Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-neck lute, which is of course
      not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows 13 courses, as usual.
      Anybody out there who has more details about it?
      Thanks a lot,
      Luca
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    References
      1. [3]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php
      2.
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<div>At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&nbsp;&nbsp; Two other well known lutes
by Johann Christian in the Brussels<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater
than half the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; width (roughly 0.57):<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495;
width 323; depth<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 185<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188):
496;&nbsp; 322; 181<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; regards<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Martyn<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
__________________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Luca Manassero &lt;l...@manassero.net&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; To: baroque-lute
&lt;baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14
course swan-neck<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; lute in Leipzing<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dear common wisdom,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a couple of years ago I stumbled upon the
Leipzig Museum website,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition
(but had to pass on it,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; unfortunately) - then one day realized that
the pictured Hoffmann<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012,
says the YouTube video)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at the
second pegbox (2x1, 6x2,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6x2).<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; See
[1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; first instrument pictured under Johann
Christian Hoffmann' section on<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the page.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It's a really strange instrument with an
incredibly deep body (it<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; must<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be uneasy to hold, or at least it looks
so).<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sure the book about Hoffmann they
sell<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christ<span
</span>ia<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; n-h<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; offmann.html) has all the measures about that
instrument, but that<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; book<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is really kind of expensive. The Museum's
website doesn't talk about<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; string length and date on this lute (I do
read German and couldn't<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; find<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the infos anywhere on the website)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The YouTube video on the same page shows a
German lutenist (Sven<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-neck
lute, which is of course<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows
13 courses, as usual.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Anybody out there who has more details about
it?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks a lot,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Luca<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; References<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.
[3]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;
[4]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-<span
</span>ho<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; ffmann.html<br>
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[5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.
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