On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 16:44 -0400, Chris Frey wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:04:02PM -0400, Rick Scott wrote:
> > I've been quiet on this so far, but good things don't last forever :)
> > Greg has, or will, submit the power change part for the inclusion in the
> > kernel, so bcharge may become a non-issue. With a bit of luck, the whole
> > driver may become a non-issue (fingers crossed, not holding my breathe).
> > The power setting can be matched against, with bMaxPower=="100mA" in the
> > udev.rules, with FC4 and above. I think the other issues can be
> > determined with bcdDevice. I know that the 6200's won't go past 100mA,
> > so all recent attempts end up in an endless loop trying to set 500mA.
> > The issue is always going to be, sometimes I want Desktop, sometimes I'm
> > gonna want usb_storage. Not loading usb_storage is NOT going to be a
> > solution.
> 
> Hi Rick!  Don't stay quiet. :-)
> 
> Has Greg KH been able to get his hands on the Recommended Procedure (TM)
> for adjusting power and the Pearl modes?  As you've probably seen on the
> list, people have been running into some pretty funky behaviour, with
> endpoints being 0, and firmware upgrades solving the issue.

I was just referring to the patch he already posted. I think that was
before Pearl.

> 
> I imagine there is a "Windows way" that just hasn't been discovered yet.
> 
> Also, you mention the usb_storage / database access conflict.  I'm curious
> how you see that being fixed.  These two pieces of functionality come in
> two different USB configurations, and it is my understanding that USB
> cannot select both configurations at the same time.  Pretending to have
> both running at the same time will require code, somewhere, either in
> kernel or not, to switch wildly back and forth between these two
> USB configurations.

I mean a way to have usb_storage not grab the device. If the udev rule
can get matched early enough, and the mode switched out of storage, this
shouldn't be an issue.

> 
> Either that, or just make usb_storage politely give up its claim on
> request.  I seem to recall other drivers doing this when I was
> reading through the kernel source, but can't recall which driver anymore.
> 
> If anyone has a Pearl handy, with Windows, I'm curious if it is possible
> to do a backup of the device at the same time as having it mapped to
> a drive.
> 
> 
> > I had my hands on an 8800 for a while today, before the owner came back
> > from lunch :), so I worked through part of this. The CVS version of
> > bcharge kept saying it wasn't a pearl, so there is still some work to be
> > done :( I was thinking that the bcdDevice was the key. I did manage a
> > complete backup of the databases though ....
> 
> Do you have lsusb -v output for that device, by any chance?

That would have been a really good thing to keep :( It seemed to behave
the way that I've heard the pearl described here.

> 
> Thanks,
> - Chris

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