Andrew:
I asked for support - on this list in fact. I was told - hey I offer now a pay to play model - and I went to it - signed up AND I heard nothing I have offered to pay for support in fact to get this running - but heard back that was not in the cards... So a lack of documentation and a community frustrated by not being able to get Baruwa 2 working has us in the world thinking that this is going to be a challenge moving forward I help run a very large opensource project - so I a more than understand how OpenSource works. That being said - I have, as you well know, offered to even build video tutorials for the product once it is ready. But at present - it is not in a usable state for the average Joe. (do you disagree ?) Once it is- I am happy to contribute but for now it feels like the project is pushing people towards your pay to play solution. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Andrew Colin Kissa <[email protected]> wrote: > Glenn, > > All i hear here is, let one person do the work and you reap the benefits, > apache even make it > worse, let one person do the work and you take all the credit(closed source) > and reap all > the benefits. > > Code gets open sourced because of the contributions that the community should > make to > advance the project. > > Frankly with no contributions of code, documentation, time and financial > resources why > would i devote time to making things work for you ? When i can spend that > time doing > stuff that actually benefits me ? > > Am sure you can find an alternative but you will still go down the same path > if you simply > expect someone else to do the work and you reap the benefits. > > Baruwa may die for you but it will not for me cause i wrote it know how it > works and will > keep using it, frankly in the grand scheme of things if you don't use it, > make no difference > to me. > > Okay thats the rant. Now for the way constructive way forward. > > * Do something don't just make demands > * Ask for help while doing something and you will get it > * If you cannot do, chip in and get someone who can to do it and contribute > that back > > - Andrew > > On 10 Oct 2012, at 4:23 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > >> Yeah - >> >> Truth is - I was going to donate but wanted to see where it went first. >> At present I am not going to pay anything towards it. >> >> I run a not-for-profit - www.WebEmpoweredChurch.org >> We have built a large number of plugins / extensions for Typo3 (and now some >> on WordPress) >> Each are free - well documented etc. >> >> I would love to see this use an Apache style license perhaps - >> I have not had the chance to put my thoughts to paper on this yet… but I >> have a feeling Baruwa will simply die off if this is where it is headed. >> >> If you do hear of anything - please let me know >> Be interested in finding an alternative >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Mark Chaney wrote: >> >>> I had a feeling that was the case. Its unfortunately very common when open >>> source projects go commercial and release source code, its usually not in a >>> format that is to easy to use. Especially without documentation. >>> Unfortunately I seem to be only 1 of 3 people that actually donated any >>> money to the project to try to keep it from going in that direction. >>> >>> Unfortunately the language used for this project makes it pretty much >>> impossible for me to contribute with as well. Add a framework on top of it >>> just made it extra over complicated. So right now I am at the mercy of >>> others to figure it out before I can do anything with it. =P >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mark >>> >>> On 2012-10-09 20:38, Glenn Kelley wrote: >>>> No. >>>> >>>> Truth is - I have struggled quite a bit. >>>> I kinda put it on the back burner for now… >>>> I do need to get back to it - but simply put - have not had the time… >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Mark Chaney wrote: >>>> >>>>> Glenn, >>>>> >>>>> Have you done anything more with baruwa2 yet? I need to setup a new >>>>> cluster of two of these babies in the near future and was just wondering >>>>> how your testing was going with version 2 and if you did end up putting >>>>> together any docs/notes about your experience and/or additional >>>>> deployment instructions. I unfortunately havent seen much activity on the >>>>> mailing list about it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-08-21 19:55, Glenn Kelley wrote: >>>>>> Are there updated instructions on Baruwa2 as of yet. >>>>>> I ran into a number of dependency issues on CentOS 6.3 >>>>>> >>>>>> Working through them and putting together some documentation on my >>>>>> own - but figured I would ask first. >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile Baruwa1.x is still rocking on the Barracuda Antispam >>>>>> appliances I loaded it onto and kicking the teeth out of their >>>>>> "protection" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 > > -- > www.baruwa.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 _______________________________________________ Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056
