I am noting possible duplication in effort preparing the camp as well as digital infrastructure. Apparently bibor and lynxis aim to manage wiki etc on code.fe80.eu and the event-orga ML, and Osmocom to be part of the Singularity City. In contrast, this Osmocom Village mail seems to suggest a separate village and wiki+ML. I also at some point noted separate efforts made by different people for setting up a large Osmocom tent, IIUC.
I'm not sure how to consolidate, but I get the strong feeling that bibor, lynxis and laforge should talk about the camp preparations to avoid "aneinander vorbeireden", confusion and redundant efforts ... ? ~N On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 06:54:04PM +0200, Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, > > I've been asked by a number of pepole about a possible Osmocom village at the > CCC Camp 2019. I personally didn't really have any plans, but given related > e-mails and "encouragement" I went ahead and registered an "Osmocom Village", > see > > https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/3b8f7aa2-95d5-4c44-aadc-de8f2680e9c3 > > I also created a wiki page (as nobody else did, despite earlier discussion on > IRC, > SCNR) for coordinating related efforts at > https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/CCC_Camp_2019 > > One of the bigger questions is about having a tent as well as some > tables/benches > to sit on and work. The Camp orga team nas been negotiating rates with a tent > rental company, but to be honest I'm rather surprised by the extremely steep > pricing. The smallest possible tent (6m x 3m) would cost 825 EUR. I'm not > sure we want to raise that amount of money? Even if we'd be 10 people sharing > it, its still 82.50 EUR per person. And that excludes any tables/chairs. > > I'm attaching the relevant parts of a mail from the assemblies orga team FYI. > > Please note there also is some kind of fragmentation / overlap with the > team planning to run the GSM/3G networks at the camp, see Lynxis' > related post at > https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/private/osmocom-event-orga/2019-June/000362.html > > It's questionable whether it makes sense to have tow distinct > 'villages', but given that e.g. I don't know anyone of that singularity > city, I'm not sure if we'd either be welcome there, nor whether we'd > want to associate us with them? Also, while the GSM network operation > for sure has good reasons to mingle with the POC and whatever facilities > they have, I'm not sure if the wider Osmocom community attendees > unrelated to the GSM network operation wouldn't just be a > disturbance/nuisance. > > In the end, to be honest, I personally do not feel I have the time and > mental capacity to take on any additional tasks in terms of organizing > anything. I just created the entry in c3assemblies as I was asked to, > and I similarly created the related mailing list and wiki page. > > So please, anyone interested in making an Osmocom village happen one way > or another, step up [and continue this discussion on the > camp2019-vill...@lists.osmocom.org mailing list, without crossposting > everywhere else :) > > Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte <lafo...@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) > Ticket sale is over. There are no more tickets available. There will be no > ticket sale on site. That means > you should know how many will join your village. In the next days we start > planning the placing of the > assemblies, we need your help. > > Please update your village registration at [3] > https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ with the number of people > who will join, extra space you require, power requirements, and such. Please > write all information to be > considered in the village registration form. > > There have been some frequently asked questions in the last weeks. So we want > to address some topics here: > > Tents/Tables/Benches/Construction Wood: > Prebuilt tents, tables, benches and wood can be borrowed or bought via the > presale system: [4] > https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/. For now there are only tents > because we need to order them > soon. The rest will follow and can be bought with the same voucher. You will > recieve a voucher with this > email (see below). The earlier you order your stuff, the more likely we can > provide what you want. > Especially tents might be in short supply. Please remember bringing cash for > the mandatory deposit of € > 100,- for renting tables and benches. > > Water: > We want to remind you, if you bring cooking equipment, there will be no > direct fresh water and waste water > supply for your kitchen. We will have some central places with fresh water > supply and where you can wash > your kitchen utensiles and dishes. > > Power: > Power will be generated from diesel with power generators. All engergy you'll > use will have to be > generated. Think about our environment and use as little power as possible. > For that reason, there is no > possibility to fulfill high power demands for pizza ovens, saunas and alike. > If you need cooling for your > food supplies, please think about your refrigeration requirements. Less is > more. And please bring enough > outdoor and rain proof extension cables to connect your tents and equipment. > > Fire: > Open wood or coal fire is not allowed at any time. That applies for anything > that needs heat for kitchen > usage. If you need heat, please bring your own safe gas-based camping heaters. > > Waste: > Of course there will be containers for waste, paper and glass on the camp > site. But the camp tries to be > as sustainable and ecological as possible. So please consider bringing > reusable dishes and cutlery. Also > think about bringing a refillable water bottle for this is the more > ecological alternative to bottled > water. The tap water is perfectly drinkable. > > Wiki: > There will be no automatic transfer of your data from the village > registration tool to the wiki. Please > create your own Wiki page using the form at [5] > https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village if you > want your village appear in the wiki. Please be aware that the only valid > place for village registration > is [6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > > Timeline: > 14.8: Buildup: Only for angels who help with buildup and registered at the > orga- or angelsystem with their dates > 16.8: People can start to build up their villages, no power or network yet > 19.8: Power is probably(!) available from now > 21.8: Offical start of the CCCamp19 \o/ > 25.8: Last day of the CCCamp19, start of disassembly in the evening > 28.8: Last day of disassembly, all must be finished no later than this day. > If you stay 27th/28th, you are > expected to help out! > > Please see [7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline for recent > updates. > > [1] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [2] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/ > [3] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [4] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/ > [5] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village > [6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline > -- - Neels Hofmeyr <nhofm...@sysmocom.de> http://www.sysmocom.de/ ======================================================================= * sysmocom - systems for mobile communications GmbH * Alt-Moabit 93 * 10559 Berlin, Germany * Sitz / Registered office: Berlin, HRB 134158 B * Geschäftsführer / Managing Directors: Harald Welte
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