david vilanova wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I finally managed to identify the problem. As i said in my previous 
> email i tried a tif image with only a signe channel:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPOTS]$ ls *
> -rw-r--r-- 1 david bioinfo 9,1M Jan 23 12:19 532.tif
> -rw-r--r-- 1 david bioinfo 9,3M Jan 23 12:20 635.tif
> -rw-r--r-- 1 david bioinfo  20M Jan 23 12:21 All.tif
> 
> CY5 image
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPOTS]$ identify 635.tif
> 635.tif TIFF 1604x5108 1604x5108+444+100 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 9.20849mb
> 
> Cy3 image
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPOTS]$ identify 532.tif
> 532.tif TIFF 1604x5108 1604x5108+444+100 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 9.02034mb
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPOTS]$ identify All.tif
> All.tif[0] TIFF 550x1429 550x1429+0+0 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 
> 19.8007mb 1.540u 0:09
> All.tif[1] TIFF 550x1429 550x1429+0+0 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 
> 19.8007mb 1.450u 0:09
> All.tif[2] TIFF 1604x5108 1604x5108+444+100 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 
> 19.8007mb 1.380u 0:09
> All.tif[3] TIFF 1604x5108 1604x5108+444+100 PseudoClass 65536c 16-bit 
> 19.8007mb 0.700u 0:08
> 
> 
> The experiment is a CY5 channel scan. Well the size of the single CY5 
> tif image is (1604*5108).
> The same for the CY3 image.
> 
> The multi-image tif file returns 2 sizes (1604*5108 and 550*1429). With 
> that being said i would say the problem comes from base to handle 
> multi-file generated by genepix. It seems that base is reading the tif 
> file sequentially and therefore get wrong coordinates for the Cy5 
> channel (base takes 550*1429 whereas the correct coordinates are 
> 1604*5108).
> 
> I guess this is the problem.

Yes, this explains everything. BASE uses the images in the order they 
are layered in the TIFF file. I don't know why there are two extra 
layers i your file. Our multi-image files only have two layers, one for 
each channel. Maybe the two smaller images are some kind of scaled-down 
preview images? It would explain that some of your spot images contained 
a lot of small spots and also that some are totally black since the 
coordinates fall outside the smaller image.

> I would say that at some point base needs to make the difference from 
> genepix multiple-tiff files and single tif files.
> 
> When I use the single CY5 image everyting works fine !!!
> 
> What do you think ?

I would recommend that everyone that has a problem with multi-layered 
image files also try with single-layer image files. It also seems like 
you save some disk space if you are using single-layer image files.

/Nicklas



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