Don’t mind at all! End of May last year. (My exposure date was 1/9, first symptom 1/19, and tests weren’t available then.) I hope I had them this year end of May as I got my 2nd shot in April. ;)
Deirdre > On Aug 12, 2021, at 11:04 PM, Gerald D. Nordley via Basfa > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Deirdre, > > Would you mind if I forward this to our family list (about ten people, and > without your email, of course)? It turns out we have some vaccine skeptics > and an ongoing discussion. Also, when you said "By the end of May, I had no > antibodies..." did you mean May last year or this year? > > --Best, Gerry > > > Gerald D. Nordley > [email protected] > www.gdnordley.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deirdre Saoirse Moen via Basfa <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2021 7:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Basfa] BBQ party for the vaccinated, West Menlo, Saturday, Aug. > 14, 4pm-12m > > First, I want to acknowledge that you are genuinely trying to have your > family’s best interests at heart. > > I was one of the “lucky” west coast people who got covid last year, but a > pre-pandemic strain (that came to the bay area directly from China in > January; the pandemic strain came to the US via Europe a bit later) from an > asymptomatic person who’d just returned from China. I’d just had a tooth > removed leaving a big gaping hole for covid to have easy access. > > By the end of May, I had no antibodies even though I had the “sequelae” of > long covid, i.e., the collateral damage it did. After six solid months of > being ill, I had to go to the ER as I greyed out. We figured out what I had > (postural orthostatic tachycardia) and got treated for it, but it took months > and months to feel better even then, and I’m still not back to where I was 19 > months ago, and I probably never will be. > > During that time, I read more than 3,000 pages of science papers about covid > (and also some about dengue, ebola, MERS, and SARS) to try to update my > understanding of virology and how it had changed since I took immunology. > Some of them are just horrifying, e.g., the “just put the Internet away for > the rest of the day” paper about the poor guy (and not the only person!) who > got autoimmune encephalitis from covid. > > “Autoimmune Encephalitis Presenting With Malignant Catatonia in a 40-Year-Old > Male Patient With Covid-19” > https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160770v1 (link is to the > preprint. It was later published, however that text is not free) > > Personally, I’m glad for the vaccine. A vaccine, even an experimental one, is > like being snuck the answers to the test before the final. Sure, there’s a > chance the teacher will add a surprise question, but! You’ll still almost > certainly pass the test. > > To put that into a chart, here’s one from Georgia: > > https://twitter.com/kavitapmd/status/1425265615468699652 > > The ICU and ventilators are needed for the unvaccinated, not the vaccinated, > and only a few vaccinated people are in the hospital (about 11% of the total > covid patients in those two hospitals; Houston’s overall fully vaccinated > rate is 47.2%: > https://data.citizen-times.com/covid-19-vaccine-tracker/texas/harris-county/48201/ > ). Make of that what you will. > > I would not have an unvaccinated party at this point in time, personally. If > you wish to offer the best outcome for all attending, I’d suggest reviewing > the calculations at https://www.microcovid.org and model possible scenarios > to fit your risk comfort level. (They do show the math; they have read many > of the same papers as I have.) > > Also, while I’m on the topic, a friend of mine is an intensivist (ICU > physician) in Guangzhou, so I got to hear about the ground preparation and > all the day-to-day upheavals there. Lots of people have suspected they’re > under reporting, but after the last conversation we had about it (last week), > I think their numbers aren’t fudged nearly as much as many assume. > > Here’s why. > > WeChat is not only a chat app and a cash exchange app and a photos app and > facebook, it also has a ton of other functions…one of which is reaching out > to contacts of people who’ve tested positive for covid, *whether you know > them or not*. If you stood on the same room in the same building at the same > time, they’re notified. > > Also, all tests are reported to the user directly on WeChat. > > There’s a *huge* social stigma with testing positive, and therefore I think > people are just super careful. > > My friend was being sent to help manage a small outbreak, and some of the > hospital staff got wind of it and resigned rather than risk testing positive. > So. Upside to authoritarianism for once? > > Deirdre > >> On Aug 11, 2021, at 07:59, Jonathan Del Arroz via Basfa >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Would love to but definitely not at the expense of getting an experimental >> injection. I’ll just host a party for the unvaccinated instead since studies >> are showing we spread the new variants less anyway mine should be safer! >> Feel free to join. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > Basfa mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org > _______________________________________________ > Basfa mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org
_______________________________________________ Basfa mailing list [email protected] http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org
