Thomas,

Thanks for the prompt and detailed reply.

Stretching my luck....and asking more beginner type of questions...some of
which may be nonsense or not suited for this list.

Would you (or anyone else) have any idea when your patch (27248) will make
in the source tree? 

With respect to your consideration that Batik needs a rendering color space,
would that mean that it is impossible (even with the patch) to mix colors
from different color spaces without seeing them converted? 

The fact that cmyk is basically "not an option" does that stem from the fact
that all color manipulation is done with 3 components and that changing that
would require turning everything upside down or is there something else
going on (as well)?

Do you have any idea (wrong list I guess, but I am just looking for a
solution for my problem) how other (commercial) fo/svg implementations deal
or deal not with these issues (cmyk and/or multiple not converted profiles)?

Thanks,

Peter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: fop - svg - icc (and cmyk color)
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/12/2006 05:29:55 AM:
> 
> > As a follow up on a recently submitted fop color patch
> > (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40729) I am now
> looking
> > into what it would take to support icc/cmyk support for fo embedded svg
> > content.
> 
>    Batik already supports ICC color profiles for colors (see the
> example in the distribution; samples/test/spec/color/colorProfile).
> 
>    However it is important to realize that unlike FOP SVG has an embedded
> rendering color space (sRGB, in some cases linear sRGB).  This is required
> 
> because of operations like filters which need to work with real pixel
> values not abstract colors.
> 
>    In Bugzilla there is a patch that adds support for a
> rendering-color-space [Bug #27248].  This allows you to
> adjust the color space that Batik does it's rendering in
> (all source colors are converted to that color space before
> rendering).  However it is restricted to 3 bands as otherwise
> all of the filter/gradient/masking/etc code falls apart.
> 
> > First, any higher level advice on how to approach this in general would
> be
> > warmly welcomed.
> 
>    Well aside from CMYK support you may not have much to
> do. It may be instructive to look at the rendering-color-space patch
> to see what needed to be done to support alternate color spaces for
> rendering.
> 
>    If you want to do CMYK then you have a huge task ahead
> of you.
> 
> > Second, what I think I have learned after 2 hours (first 2 hours ever in
> > Batik code, so I am probably missing a lot) is that fop (in
> > PDFSVGHandler#renderSVGDocument) creates a bridge context and passes
> that to
> > Batik's GVTBuilder#build.
> 
>    Correct.
> 
> > I have the impression (however?) that the color-profile elements are not
> > added to the color profile bridge during the build invocation (it skips
> over
> > the defs element).
> 
>    The SVGColorProfileElementBridge uses getElementsByTagNameNS to track
> down the color profile elements in the document containing the element
> when a paint using an icc-color is first encountered (if it were done
> as part of the normal build tree walk then forward references wouldn't
> work).
> 
> > The result is that during rendering, the fallback color is used as the
> color
> > profile is not found in the bridge.
> 
>    I think this is due to a mistake in your content.
> 
> > Would this be expected behavior and should fop figure out another way to
> get
> > hold of the color-profile info? Actually, I am not sure which
> color-profile
> > elements (those of fo or the embedded svg ones) should be used.
> 
>    Batik will naturally only look for color-profile elements in the
> SVG namespace.
> 
>    In your example, I think you want to change the 'name="icc"'
> attribute to be 'name="changeColorAuto"'.
> 
> > <fo:instream-foreign-object>
> >   <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";
> >     xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; height="50" width="50">
> >    <defs>
> >      <color-profile name="icc" rendering-intent="auto"
> >         xlink:href="changeColor.icm"></color-profile>
> >    </defs>
> >    <g>
> >     <rect height="20" width="20" x="15" y="15"
> >        fill="rgb(100, 100, 100)  icc-color(changeColorAuto,
> 0.1,0.1,1.0)"
> >        stroke="rgb(200, 200, 200)
> icc-color(changeColorAuto,0.2,0.2,0.2)"
> >        stroke-width="10">
> >     </rect>
> >    </g>
> >   </svg>
> > </fo:instream-foreign-object>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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