Vincent and the rest of the Batik Team, I was not there....but I have only read and heard good things about the Batik sessions and BOF.... congratulation! I would also like to say that I am glad to read that the BOF slided will be made available on the Web for free...(sorry about the zeal and foot stompping of my last E-mail on the topic of free information...I mean no harm :-) I look forward to looking at the information and promoting Batik... We all learn by sharing what we know Robert A. DiBlasi >From: Vincent Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Batik Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Batik Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: So.....how was JavaOne and Batik >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:57:34 -0700 > >Max, > >Thanks for the summary of the Batik activity at JavaOne and for your >kind words about the work that was done. I would like to add a couple >points. > >In addition to the BOF and the session we had a Booth in the Pavillion >where products and technologies are presented. This was a great >opportunity to give demos, answer questions and get feedback on Batik. > >The Batik booth was not the only place where Batik was shown as it was >also demoed in the Java 2D API booth, the Java Web Start boot (with >the Draw sample application exporting SVG and the Batik browser >started from a web page as in >http://xml.apache.org/batik/batikDemo.html), >the OpenOffice booth (where SVG export from OpenOffice, not using >Batik though and Batik integration in Netscape 6.x for Solaris were >shown). So Batik was well represented and I share Max's feeling that >there is a growing interest around SVG and Batik. > >Regarding the BOF slides, we will make them available but I need to >package them. This may take some time as I am in the middle of a move >so I appologize in advance if there is any delay. For the session >slides, >we can only go with whatever the conference organization does with them, >and I do not have information about that. I hope they will be available >shortly. > >Cheers. >Vincent. > >Max Dunn wrote: > > > > Google didn't bring up much, other than what was there pre-JavaOne. The > > slides, where are the slides? Or should I ask where is the SVG file >that > > included all the slides? > > > > I'm not on the Batik team, but I can give my impression as a generic >JavaOne > > attendee: > > > > First of all, the Batikers were *dogged* in terms of the schedule. The >BOF > > at 11 PM, the technical session at 8:30 AM on Friday (traditionally >Fridays > > are sparsely attended, and Friday morning after a week of 8:30 AM to > > Midnight is hardly anyone's dream time). Next Year, Batik deserves some > > prime time. Nevertheless, this didn't dampen anyone's spirits. > > > > The BOF was fantastic. The participants clearly knew their subject >inside > > out, and they clearly had some superior software to show off. >Remembering > > back to the dawn of Java 2D, when the poor embarrassed presenters >managed to > > skate along with concepts and promises rather than awesome demos, this >was > > the exact opposite. Java 2D has truly come of age, and it was shown off >by > > Batik exceptionally well. It was also shown off by a Java 2D app, >ILOG's > > JView, that exports SVG. > > > > In true open source style the audience decided the sequence of the >topics > > covered, and appropriately the slides were SVG, all slides for several > > presentations on a single SVG that was zoomed and navigated via SVG > > controls. This presentation would be quite nice to have available on >the > > web. Didn't find it searching google... > > > > There was some practical talk of how to add SVG to a Java 2 app, a >concise > > overview of the architecture of Batik, an explanation of the data flow >of > > Batik, and talk of the present and future of Batik. > > > > In terms of the present they said that Batik 1.0 covered static SVG, >full > > linking support, and some scripting, but did not yet include SMIL. > > > > In terms of the future the Batik team spoke of the desire to add further > > dynamic support, including both improved scripting and SMIL. They said >they > > wished to modularize the implementation. They mentioned that SVG 1.0 >was > > virtually complete, there was also the likelihood (certainty?) of an SVG >2.0 > > Working Group defining a 2.0 spec, and the possibilities for 2.0 were > > discussed. Apparently there is also the possibility of a lighter weight > > spec for SVG aimed at small devices. > > > > ILOG demonstrated their JViews Composer Suite, which is a set of >components > > for 2D graphics. Quite an awesome demo, almost upstaged Batik itself. >At > > least it exports (static) SVG. If anyone doubts the capabilities of >Java > > 2D, ILOG's software would put any such doubts to rest; it is simply >awesome. > > > > At the Batik technical session on Friday they really showed off Batik: > > unfortunately the large hall was rather sparsely populated, but those >who > > were there were on the edge of their seats. The Batik team demonstrated >the > > use of Batik on the server to generate business cards, and the use of >Batik > > for internationalization. They showed the extreme zoom capabilities of > > Batik/SVG, very impressive. > > > > Batik and SVG also came up as a subject at other JavaOne sessions. For > > example in the JAXP BOF, the XSLT transformation demo transformed into >SVG, > > which was then rasterized to .PNG, using Batik. > > > > As one who attended JavaOne way back in 1998 when XML was covered in >similar > > fashion (I think there were 4 sessions total on XML that year, and it >may > > have come up tangentially in about 15 others), SVG had a similar feel to >it. > > Those who knew about it were all deeply enthusiastic about it, and those >who > > found out about it were almost instantly enthusiastic about it. I think > > that SVG will really take off, in large part thanks to Batik. > > > > I think it would be a good idea to put the materials from the BOF and >the > > technical session on the Batik site. It appears Sun is going to attempt >to > > sell access to the slides from JavaOne this year, which I think is very > > unfortunate. Hopefully the Batik materials will be available to all at >no > > cost. > > > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Engineer Software [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:45 AM > > To: Batik Users > > Subject: Re: So.....how was JavaOne and Batik > > > > search it at www.google.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "r d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:01 AM > > Subject: So.....how was JavaOne and Batik > > > > > Batik Team, > > > > > > Simple question: So...How did JavaOne go for Batik? > > > Do you have any material that you can share with the group? > > > > > > Look forward to reading what you have to say :-) > > > > > > We all learn by sharing what we know > > > Robert A. 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