--- Thomas DeWeese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>     The easiest way to do this is with just the
> SVG DOM.  The Batik Wiki has directions on how
> to 'boot' the SVG DOM without the canvas:

Cool--thanks. This looks like just the info I needed.

As for determining the rendered size, I should be able
to calculate that from the containing FO context,
which would normally specify explicit dimensions for
the container of the SVG. In most cases we would have
complete control over the generation of the FO data so
it shouldn't be a problem. 

Cheers,

Eliot

Eliot Kimber
Austin, TX

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