Hi,

I just thought I would post an update.

I am now specifying my fonts via FOP and the result has been remarkable. A 5
page PDF with one embedded font is now approximately 200K! I could not of
hoped for a better result.

As an aside, I have encountered a number of issues with FOP not picking up
my fonts unless installed but I will get some concrete use cases before I
post regarding this. 

I am running on Mac OS X 10.5 so maybe this is contributing to it.

Finally thank you for your help it is much appreciated.

Regards
Lea.



Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
> 
> On 05.06.2008 11:24:12 Lea Thurman wrote:
>> 
>> Jeremais, 
>> 
>> Thanks. It works when running against FOP 0.95-beta(Batik 1.7). I was
>> running against FOP-0.94(batik 1.6) originally. (I put 0.95 in error in
>> the
>> original post). Sorry.
>> 
>> I am hijacking the thread a little but I am surprised by the size of the
>> resulting PDF. Its seems that each font I reference or embed akes up
>> about
>> 300K per page in the resulting PDF file. A 2 page PDF with 2 referenced
>> fonts generates a 1.1MB PDF, without fonts it is 84K.
>> 
>> Does this seem normal to you? I suspect that because I am using FOP to to
>> render a number of SVG documents generated by batik and each SVG document
>> has the same referenced fonts then the PDF transcoder is duplicating the
>> fonts for each page.
> 
> Not duplicating the fonts. Rather rendering all text as shapes. We don't
> have support for Type 3 fonts, yet, which could be used for SVG fonts.
> So the PDF size is completely expected.
> 
>> Does this sound correct? It seems regardless of whether I reference or
>> embed
>> the font in the SVG multiple fonts of the same type are embedded in the
>> PDF.
> 
> In both cases they are SVG fonts, the way you do it. If you just remove
> the font-face elements from the SVGs I expect improvements of PDF sizes.
> 
>> I am going to see what happens if I specify the fonts in FOP and see if
>> the
>> file size is reduced.
> 
> That's exactly what you should do instead of using SVG fonts. If you use
> FOP 0.95beta special font configuration should actually be unnecessary 
> (except for an "<auto-detect/>" in the FOP configuration if you
> transform FO+SVG rather than SVG). This way, the fonts get embedded
> natively which should reduce PDF size and add copy/paste support for all
> but the most complex SVG text.
> 
>> Failing this we are going to try and remove FOP from the equation and
>> amend
>> batik to support multiple pages via the nextPage() method.
> 
> Difficult as the PDF output support for Batik is still part of FOP. ;-)
> But I know what you mean. I think both approaches should work. Only the
> configuration is different because two different APIs are used.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
>> As always any pointers would be much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Lea.
>> 
>> 
>> Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
>> > 
>> > Sorry for the delay. I seemed to have missed this.
>> > 
>> > My suspicion is that the "No ImagePreloader found" is only a follow-up
>> > error of an error thrown when parsing the SVG. Are there no other error
>> > messages before the above error in the log? Lea, would you send me your
>> > SVG font file you referenced in your testfile below so I don't have to
>> > spend too much time trying to set up the same testcase? I'm not too
>> > familiar with SVG fonts. I will then try to reproduce the problem ASAP
>> > so I can provide better feedback. Otherwise, please try to set this up
>> > for debugging and try to figure out by
>> > org.apache.fop.image.loader.batik.PreloaderSVG fails to recognize your
>> > SVG as a valid SVG file.
>> > 
>> > On 02.06.2008 18:04:40 Lea Thurman wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Hi,
>> >> 
>> >> I am using batik 1.7 to render an SVG document. I then create a FOP
>> >> document
>> >> and reference the generated SVG which is then converted into PDF using
>> >> FOP
>> >> 0.95beta.  The FOP document is below (but I suspect not the issue):
>> >> 
>> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> >> <fo:root xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";
>> >> xmlns:fox="http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/extensions";>
>> >>       <fo:layout-master-set>
>> >>         <fo:simple-page-master master-name="A4-portrait"
>> >> page-height="29.7cm" page-width="21.0cm" margin="2cm">
>> >>           <fo:region-body/>
>> >>         </fo:simple-page-master>
>> >>       </fo:layout-master-set>
>> >>       <fox:external-document id="img1"
>> >> src="/Users/temp/project/page1.svg"/>
>> >> </fo:root>
>> >> 
>> >> Everything has been working well until I attempted to reference an
>> >> external
>> >> font in the SVG file.
>> >> 
>> >> I get a 'No ImagePreloader found" error when I reference the SVG
>> document
>> >> below. The error seems to be as a result of the following SVG element
>> >> which
>> >> is referencing an external font file. I know the external font file is
>> >> good
>> >> since this can be converted successfully into PDF using the testcard
>> >> characters. The SVG file is below:
>> >> 
>> >> <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes"?>
>> >> <svg width="400px" height="300px" version="1.1"
>> >> xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'>  
>> >>  <defs>
>> >>  <font-face font-family="Swiss721NarrowSWA">
>> >>    <font-face-src>
>> >>      <font-face-uri
>> >> xlink:href="file:///Users/temp/project/myfont.svg#Font1"/>
>> >>    </font-face-src>     
>> >>  </font-face>
>> >>  </defs>
>> >> <g style="font-family: Swiss721NarrowSWA; font-size:18;fill:black"> 
>> >>   <text x="20" y="120">@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_</text> 
>> >> </g>
>> >> </svg>
>> >> 
>> >> Everything works as expected if I embed the font into the SVG document
>> >> rather than referencing it.
>> >> 
>> >> I am not sure if it is something I have done with Batik or it is a FOP
>> >> error
>> >> so I decided to post here first. Apologies if this is clearly a FOP
>> >> problem
>> >> however FOP is able to handle to conversion with an embedded font so
>> >> maybe I
>> >> have referenced the font incorrectly in SVG.
>> >> 
>> >> Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >> 
>> >> Regards
>> >> Lea.
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>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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>> > 
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