Hi Jeremias,

Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/07/2008 08:09:48 AM:

> Thanks a lot, Thomas. So the safest way would be to clone the (cached) 
SVG
> document.

   Correct.  This is what we do when we cache documents - mostly because 
we
do deal with dynamic documents.

> As an optimization step one could investigate if some sort of
> caching the GVT tree is doable (see my other post just a few minutes 
ago).
> I assume the second option would take quite a bit of effort (including
> benchmarks beforehand to determine the optimization potential).

   So the work would be knowing that you can reuse the GVT tree because
the destination format matches (so the 'added' bridges would match).
The other potential issue would be the viewBox fitting (the affine for
that lives in the 'CanvasGraphicsNode').  You would probably want to
handle that outside of the GVT tree.

   As far as the boost this would give you, the actual construction
of the GVT tree is pretty quick, but some of the stuff that is done
the first time through (calculating BBoxes, text layout, etc) can be
fairly time consuming.

> On 07.12.2008 13:53:12 thomas.deweese wrote:
> > Hi Jeremias,
> > 
> > Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/07/2008 06:53:04 
AM:
> > 
> > > Is that a sure thing that the DOM is not modified? 
> > 
> >    It is 100% certain that you can't have one document with
> > two attached GVT tree's - which I think you would need to do
> > with your current approach.  The actual DOM infoset shouldn't
> > be modified but internally we attach additional structures to
> > handle the CSS & SVG DOMs.  Also some items (particularly in
> > the SVG DOM) may be lazily constructed (so the two threads might
> > collide when 'reading' those items).
> > 
> > > If yes, we'd have to ask the question whether attaching the CSS 
engine 
> > > to the DOM is the right thing to do. And is the CSS Engine as such 
not 
> > > thread-safe or is only the setting of the CSS engine not thread safe 

> > (method
> > > BridgeContext.initializeDocument(Document))? 
> > 
> >    Once again no attempt was made to make the CSS Engine thread safe, 
it
> > might be thread safe for some set of operations but I can't give any 
kind
> > of guidelines.  Of course you must attach the CSS Engine otherwise the 

> > CSS DOM (which we use to render the document) won't be available.
> > 
> >    In Batik it is 100% required that people access DOM/CSS/GVT through 

> > one thread.
> > 
> > > Maybe an idea could be to attach the CSS engine to the thread 
(thread 
> > > local) instead of to the DOM if only one thread uses the CSS engine 
in 
> > > a single rendering run and the CS engine is not thread-safe. 
> > > Just brain-storming....
> > 
> >    The only thing that might work would be to attach the CSSEngine 
once
> > and build the GVT tree once and keep that in the cache.  But even with
> > that the GVT tree may well not support multiple concurrent renderings
> > (although for a static document it should come close).
> > 
> > > On 07.12.2008 12:32:43 Peter Coppens wrote:
> > > > As in another post mentioned - I have been debugging the code. The 
dom 
> > is
> > > > not modified. The dom caches a Parser object which is not thread 
safe.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:17:48 +0100
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Batik exception when using fop with svg images in 
> > threaded
> > > > > environment
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for your input, Thomas!
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 06.12.2008 20:00:01 thomas.deweese wrote:
> > > > >> Hi Jeremias,
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/05/2008 
> > 03:55:42 AM:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> I can reproduce the issue with this test case. It really only 
> > happens in
> > > > >>> the multi-threading case (running against Batik Trunk). As 
soon as 
> > you
> > > > >>> place break-points before the exception 
(NumberFormatException) 
> > can
> > > > >>> happen, it won't. I'm not sure where to start looking for the 
> > problem.
> > > > >>> Maybe we can do something in FOP to avoid this. Help/hints 
would 
> > be
> > > > >>> appreciated.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>    I don't know how FOP loads and rasterizes SVG documents.  If 

> > there
> > > > >> is a global cache of Documents that have been read so the same 
> > Document
> > > > >> Object ends up being used in both threads that would cause this 

> > problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm, I wonder why we've never had that before (to my knowledge). 

> > After
> > > > > all we have an image cache which caches and reuses the SVG DOM 
for 
> > years.
> > > > > Even FOP versions before 0.20.5 did that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I mean I can understand that SVGs with scripts or animation 
might 
> > modify
> > > > > the DOM but static SVGs with no script, no animation, no CSS 
parts?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Anyway, FOP does have (0.94 or earlier) an image cache or uses 
the 
> > one
> > > > > in the image loading framework from XML Graphics Commons (since 
FOP 
> > 0.95).
> > > > > In the case of SVG documents, the DOM is reused with the 
intention 
> > of
> > > > > improving performance.
> > > > > 
> > > > >>    Checking the source it appears that fop.image.ImageFactory 
does 
> > this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You're looking at old source code (before 0.95). This has been 
> > replaced
> > > > > by the XG Commons image loading framework.
> > > > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/image-loader.html
> > > > > 
> > > > >> There seem to be some options for sharing (or not) of images 
> > between
> > > > >> contexts but it's not obvious to me how that works.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Images are cached with their original URI as the key. When the 
same 
> > URI
> > > > > is requested the cached image (with a reference to the SVG DOM) 
is
> > > > > returned if it hasn't already been claimed by the garbage 
collector.
> > > > > Image subclasses indicate if they are cacheable or not:
> > > > > https://svn.eu.apache.
> > > org/viewvc/xmlgraphics/commons/trunk/src/java/org/apache
> > > > > /xmlgraphics/image/loader/Image.java?view=markup
> > > > > 
> > > > >>    Another option would be to deep clone the Document the 
second 
> > time
> > > > >> (deciding that it's the second time is left as an exercise for 
the
> > > > >> user of Batik ;).
> > > > > 
> > > > > That depends. If you're saying that the DOM can actually be 
> > manipulated,
> > > > > even in case of a "static" SVG, then that might not always be a 
good
> > > > > idea. To be on the safe side, I think I'll always have to clone 
the 
> > SVG
> > > > > document.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope the performance penalty for the cloning is not too high.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you think it is feasible to modify Batik to treat the SVG 
> > document as
> > > > > read-only? If yes, where would we have to dive in?
> > > > > 
> > > > >>> Peter, there's one problem in your test case: You reuse the 
> > FOUserAgent
> > > > >>> for all documents. That's not how it's supposed to be. You 
have to
> > > > >>> create a new FOUserAgent for each processing run. Too bad, 
that 
> > doesn't
> > > > >>> already fix the problem. ;-)
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>    This might let the 'context' stuff I mentioned above kick 
in.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, the image cache is attached to the FopFactory, not the 
> > FOUserAgent.
> > > > > The old image cache used to create a hard reference on an image 
when 
> > it
> > > > > was preloaded during layout to block garbage collection. That 
hard
> > > > > reference was released (leaving the soft reference in the image 
> > cache)
> > > > > when the image was rendered. I didn't reimplement that feature 
to 
> > lower
> > > > > the memory requirements for images that have to be fully loaded 
at
> > > > > "pre-loading time".
> > > > > 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> On 04.12.2008 23:58:57 Peter Coppens wrote:
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> We have been able to reproduce with the following files
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20844449/TestPijltje.java 
> > TestPijltje.java
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20844449/pols.xml pols.xml
> > > > >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20844449/pols.xslt pols.xslt
> > > > >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20844449/pijltje.svg pijltje.svg
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> TestPijltje.java is the test program. It starts two threads 
each 
> > of
> > > > >> which
> > > > >>>> will generate a pdf based on the pols.xslt stylesheet, 
pols.xml 
> > en
> > > > >>>> pijltje.svg input file.
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> If changing the code to only start one thread it always works 

> > fine.
> > > > >> With two
> > > > >>>> threads regular exceptions are thrown
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Stack trace is always something like
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Dec 4, 2008 11:54:33 PM org.apache.fop.svg.SVGUserAgent 
> > displayError
> > > > >>>> SEVERE: SVG 
Errorfile:/Users/pc/Downloads/fop-0.95/pijltje.svg:
> > > > >>>> The attribute "enable-background" represents an invalid CSS 
value
> > > > >> ("new 0 0
> > > > >>>> 47.403 26.361").
> > > > >>>> Original message:
> > > > >>>> Invalid number.
> > > > >>>> org.w3c.dom.DOMException:
> > > > >> file:/Users/pc/Downloads/fop-0.95/pijltje.svg:
> > > > >>>> The attribute "enable-background" represents an invalid CSS 
value
> > > > >> ("new 0 0
> > > > >>>> 47.403 26.361").
> > > > >>>> Original message:
> > > > >>>> Invalid number.
> > > > >>>>         at 
> > > > >> 
org.apache.batik.css.engine.CSSEngine.getCascadedStyleMap(Unknown
> > > > >>>> Source)
> > > > >>>>         at 
> > > > >> org.apache.batik.css.engine.CSSEngine.getComputedStyle(Unknown
> > > > >>>> Source)
> > > > >>>>         at 
> > > > >> org.apache.batik.bridge.CSSUtilities.getComputedStyle(Unknown
> > > > >>>> Source)
> > > > >>>>         at 
> > > > >> org.apache.batik.bridge.CSSUtilities.convertVisibility(Unknown
> > > > >>>> Source)
> > > > >>>>         at
> > > > >>>> 
> > org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGSVGElementBridge.createGraphicsNode(Unknown
> > > > >>>> Source)
> > > > >>>>         at org.apache.batik.bridge.GVTBuilder.build(Unknown 
> > Source)
> > > > >>>>         at
> > > > >>>> org.apache.fop.render.pdf.PDFSVGHandler.
> > > > >>> renderSVGDocument(PDFSVGHandler.java:188)
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Any help warmly welcomed!
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> Peter
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>> -- 
> > > > >>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Batik-
> > > > >>> 
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> > > > >>> tp20809049p20844449.html
> > > > >>>> Sent from the Batik - Users mailing list archive at 
Nabble.com.
> > > > >>>> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> Jeremias Maerki
> 
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