In (bbdb)Installation it says to do this: (setq gnus-Startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus) In FSF Emacs 19.19, gnus.el calls gnus-startup-hook, not gnus-Startup-hook, so I think the manual needs modification. I'm not on this list, so please reply to me personally if you wish to communicate further with me... I'm running "BBDB version 1.48; 24-jul-93." and "GNU Emacs 19.19.19 of Thu Aug 19 1993 on sun19 (berkeley-unix)" Is that enough 19s, do you think? :-) Chris. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Chris Moore \ If something's hard to do, / Sowerby Research Centre \ it's not worth doing. \ British Aerospace PLC / tel: +44 272 363375 \ BRISTOL, UK / -- Homer Simpson.