After so many years of being used to having a "Start at Top" setting, why when
the Modeless dialogs find dialogs finally came along, which was good, was it
necessary to remove the "Start at Top" setting which is bad.
We ought to have the option to start the search at the top as we've always had
(I don't want to hear "keep using the modal dialog").
It doesn't make sense, why arbitrarily remove something that is useful to the
users ?
The options become :
( 1 ) keep using the modal dialog (not the preferred method)
( 2 ) use the modeless dialog, and start the find wherever the cursor
happens to be (not the preferred method)
( 3 ) remember to use Control-UpArrow every time prior to using the
modeless dialog
( 4 ) create an applescript (forget this)
I asked about this a long time ago, and have never received a response that I
felt addressed the point.
Here's a portion from a previous message :
Re: (Case 134368) modal find/replace dialog no longer saves the replace string
every time
Another huge pain, is the fact that modeless dialogs are really much nicer
because they are resizeable, which is something that every dialog should be. We
have 24 inch screens and OS Save As, and OS Open dialogs, have to be manually
enlarged every time they open, because there is no way to have them open in a
larger size every time they display. They should remember automatically the
last resize. ...and this should be the case for all dialogs.
Anyway, the problem with the Modeless dialogs, is that they have no start at
the top button. They only have next/previous, so every time you want to search
for something after you pull up the dialog, you have to click on the window, do
a CMD- up arrow the do a CMD-F, or click on the dialog again. There is enough
space in the dialog where the buttons are located to have 'find/next/previous'
buttons where find would always start at the top, and next would start the
search at the current position. That would be a great timesaver, much better
than some checkbox at the bottom. Which right now, there isn't even a checkbox
to tell the dialog to start the search at the top.
As much as I hate checkboxes ('two-click' object), instead of 'single-click'
buttons, at least the modal dialog has a 'start at the top checkbox', but then
it's not re-sizeable.
> Hi Bill,
>
> Whether you perform a string or regex search (or search & replace) from the
> Find dialog (or window), BBEdit should store the patterns, and that's how it
> behaves here.
>
> My suspicion is that you're observing the effects of the bug I described
> above, but if you can provide specific steps to reproduce this problem using
> the Find dialog (or window), please let me know and I'll be happy to try
> reproducing.
>
>
>> [search dialogs] should remember automatically the last resize. ...and
>> this should be the case for all dialogs.
>
> If they did, we'd have to add a preference to toggle this behavior for folks
> who don't want them to. :-)
>
>
>> Anyway, the problem with the Modeless dialogs, is that they have no
>> start at the top button. They only have next/previous, so every time
>> you want to search for something after you pull up the dialog, you
>> have to click on the window, do a CMD- up arrow the do a CMD-F, or
>> click on the dialog again. [...]
>
> The Find window doesn't have a "Start at top" option since that option is not
> appropriate to the context in which the Find window is used.
>
> If there were such an option, BBEdit would have to either automatically turn
> it off after each search action, or you'd have to manually toggle it off.
> Otherwise, searches would always find the first match within the document, no
> matter how many times you clicked "Next", and being able to interactively
> work with the Find window is one of the main advantages of a non-modal layout.
This doesn't make any sense, when you look at the way CMD-F followed by CMD-G
work in the modal dialog, this would work just fine in the modeless dialogs.
> Regards,
>
> Patrick Woolsey
On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Rich Siegel wrote:
> On 3/9/10 at 8:37 AM, [email protected] (zax) wrote:
>
>> I saw it's been discussed many times but it seems that BBEdit 9.3.1
>> doesn't remember the "Start at top" find option (in modal dialog)
>> *even for the same session*.
>
> The BBEdit help (in the Expert Prefs section) has this to say:
>
> When using the old modal Find dialog, the "Start at Top" setting
> is reset after a successful single-file search. To have "Start
> at Top" remain turned on if it was on when you dismissed the
> dialog:
>
> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit FindDialog:RememberStartAtTop
> -bool YES
>
> Note that this setting applies only to the old modal Find
> dialog, not to the new Find window (which has no "Start at Top"
> setting).
>
> Enjoy,
>
> R.
> --
> Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc.
> <[email protected]> <http://www.barebones.com/
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