I'm not overly happy with the lack of long-standing features in v10
either. I realize is a Cocoa build though, so it does take a lot more
effort to recode everything. What I wonder is why it was released so
crippled. I'd have rather of waited another year for v10 and not be
missing anything.   I guess the Cocoa build has to start somewhere. As
it is, I'll probably be using v9.6 for at least another 6 months while
the BB folks add features back to v10.

BBEdit has always been one of those apps I download/purchase as soon
as there is an update because each version is an improvement. Sad to
say v10 was the huge step backwards due to missing features. I can't
see how BBEdit 10 will gain many NEW users. If I saw only version
10... I'd have never purchased it. There are free apps that do a
better job with PHP/HTML/CSS/Javascript than v10 does at the moment.

And, of course, it may depend on end user use as well. v10 may be a
heck-of-an-app for *nix or Ruby files. I wouldn't know.


On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, Jay <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've tried off and on to get up to speed with version 10, and I'm just
> not getting it. I've used BBEdit for years and usually eagerly buy up
> the latest version as soon as it ships, but so far, I can't justify
> the purchase.
>
> I primarily do HTML, PHP, and JS development with BBEdit and it seems,
> unless I'm missing something, that version 10 is far more cumbersome
> to use than version 9 for a lot of my tasks. The prime example being
> the HTML editing tools.
>
> For most tags in 9, the modal dialog boxes provided the majority of
> the necessary options (the prime example being the image box). It also
> did the niceties of auto-calculating the image size for you, after
> inputting all the needed options. From what I can see in V10, the
> prime option is to use the inline editor, which only prompts to type
> the alt and src attributes, and does not auto-fill dimensions.
>
> The other suggestion I've seen is to drag and drop the image file into
> the HTML file, and it will auto-fill the dimensions. But, if you've
> set the file type to PHP (like I do for files that have headers and
> includes), this doesn't work (i.e., BBEdit does nothing). So, in this
> case, the only option is to use the inline palette, which requires
> more clicks (and doesn't do the auto-calculation).
>
> The new non-modal tag editors also have one really annoying aspect in
> that they do provide a listing of every possible attribute that
> applies to a tag in a drop-down menu, but the drop-down menu requires
> me to scroll up and down, even though the menu should easily fit on my
> screen. I'm not sure if this is a developer tool limitation or not,
> but if it can be changed, I'd vote to do so.
>
> Find and replace also seems less functional in version 10... maybe
> it's just my workflow, but I much prefer the old modal find & replace
> window, for two main reasons. First, the existence of the keyboard
> shortcuts to toggle options (Command-G to toggle Grep, Command-T to
> toggle start at top). And second, what happened to Start at Top?
> Losing that is a major bummer to the way I work. Also, losing the
> ability to trigger a multi-file search from inside of the regular find
> box is a bummer; I do that a lot when I make one change, and then
> realize I probably need to make it across a bunch of files.
>
> I've also noticed that the full screen mode in Lion seems buggy. Every
> time I try it, at some point, the ability to mouse to the top of the
> screen to reveal the menu bar stops working. BBEdit also assigns the
> system keyboard shortcut for enter/exit full screen to another
> command, so no dice there. The only option seems to be quitting and
> restarting.
>
> Am I missing something? Are there workarounds or better ways to deal
> with these things that I'm missing?

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