Unless I'm confused, I had thought Language Server Protocol was the new big
standard created recently and used by Visual Studio Code and other popular
editors or IDEs and that it was intended to support all the usual features of a
language that an editor would care about, including all the syntax coloring and
function scanning and delimiter pair folding and so on. -- Darren Duncan
On 2021-08-16 9:28 p.m., Christopher Waterman wrote:
Darren,
I bumped up against the limitation of the CLM’s as well. Language Server
Protocol support is really a big deal.
But I think built in support for languages will continue for a very long time.
Outside the pedantic notion that you have to have some language support in
order to connect to the servers. Editor makers will want to do things not
provided by LSP. I suspect that if they add more features to LSP different
editors will support different sets and choose to roll their own feature in
other cases. Its a competitive market with free options, there is a lot of
pressure to stand out.
BBEdit doesn’t use it for syntax coloring now, and I wouldn’t be surprised if
they have no plans too. I’m speculating but I think the situation with the
coded vs codeless modules is a product of Bare Bones protecting BBEdits
performance (I think syntax coloring like HTML rendering is surprisingly
processor intensive). One is very limited but trivial to write, the other is
difficult but extremely flexible. Both are fast. If Rich sees that speed as key
to his customers no way he hands that over to a gallery of third parties.
Also what if no one writes a LS for say Fish (there might be one, I don’t
know). I banged that CLM out in an hour, it was my first one, and I am not a
good programmer.
I hadn’t really thought about the future of this. So thanks, now I’m kind of
excited to see how this plays out.
—Chris
On Aug 14, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Darren Duncan <[email protected]> wrote:
Something I will say is that while I've found the codeless language module
functionality very helpful, and I have written and maintain a few of my own, I
have also, perhaps partly due to ignorance, ran into their limitations quite a
bit.
I really appreciate BBEdit's new support for language servers, and when I'm
able to, intend to re-implement some codeless language modules as servers for
that protocol, helping them be much more capable in the process.
I could be wrong but I get the impression that older methods of language
support are now deprecated in favor of the new language protocol, as it can
benefit from economies of scale to get maintained support for a lot more
languages.
-- Darren Duncan
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