Darren,

Thank you for the information. I have not seen Finder show files from 
within ~/Library/Containers for other applications, which lead me to hope 
that it could be controlled via BBEdit. Perhaps that is not the case.

Regards,

David

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 5:14:59 PM UTC-5 Darren Duncan wrote:

> A partial answer to your question is that the MacOS does some weirdness 
> with 
> regards to "Containers", where the Finder or certain apps would fake 
> various 
> home folders like ~/Documents containing things that are actually in 
> ~/Library/Containers... and so on, though I've seen even the Finder 
> sometimes 
> shows the same folder as being empty or non-empty depending how I get to 
> it. I 
> encountered this due to strange behavior I observed when migrating from 
> one Mac 
> to another.
>
> As to your question about moving this BBEdit folder to the trash, well you 
> can, 
> but you would probably lose some BBEdit settings in the process, and the 
> folder 
> would then get recreated for fresh settings.
>
> I feel your best bet is to just take it that this folder is a standard 
> part of 
> how the MacOS works, leave it alone, and organize your own files around 
> it. For 
> example, if you used to organize your files within various folders 
> directly 
> under ~/Documents, then instead make a new "top level" folder like 
> ~/Documents/Foo and put your organization under there instead. Treat 
> ~/Documents as if it were your root home folder ~ where the MacOS 
> organizes it, 
> and have your own organizing scheme under the Foo, where you can expect 
> nothing 
> else would mess with it.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>
> On 2024-01-18 11:36 a.m., Well, Therefore wrote:
> > Using BBEdit's menu BBEdit > Folders > Document Backups opens 
> > ~Library/Containers/BBEdit/Data/Documents/BBEdit Backups. In Finder, 
> folder 
> > ~/Documents contains what appears to be a folder named "BBEdit", within 
> which is 
> > what appears to be another folder named "BBEdit Backups."
> > 
> > I have two questions. First, can ~/Documents/BBEdit be removed, or at 
> least 
> > hidden. The reason I don't simply move it to the Trash leads to the 
> second 
> > question, which is...
> > 
> > ... just what is this mysterious entity that looks like 
> ~/Documents/BBEdit? When 
> > I use ls -lA ~/Documents, no such item appears. A file entitled 
> .localized 
> > exists, but I do not believe this is related. Finder's Get Info on 
> > ~/Documents/BBEdit reports that it is a zero byte file and its location 
> is 
> > ~/Library/Containers/BBEdit/Data/Documents.
> > I am very curious. It appears to be something akin to a hard link or 
> symbolic 
> > link, but not exactly.
> > 
> > The User Guide cautions against messing with this mysterious entity 
> (humor 
> > intended.)
> > 
> > I appreciate in advance anyone who can answer the first question and 
> shed some 
> > light on the second.
> > 
> > David Brown
> > Mac Studio M2 Ultra
> > macOS 14.2.1
> > BBEdit 15.0
>
>

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