I've seen conflicting definitions of what "Incremental" and "Differential" are. What I always knew as the "classical" definition (and what I always taught when I did) was that Incrementals were the backups of any data changed since the last backup of ANY level. Differentials were the backup of anything since the last full only - thus Differentials would be larger than Incrementals over time.

Veritas Netbackup I believe defines it the other way.

Using my "classic" definition, dump levels are essentially a hybrid. Level 1 is ALWAYS a differential, since the only level below that is 0.

Any other level done continuously would also be a differential from the most recent lower level.

To get a true incremental using dump levels, you need to increase the dump level each iteration - do a level 0, then a 1, then a 2, etc.

An old pattern I used was a 0 on the first Saturday of the month, then 1 through 4 through the remaining Saturdays. During the week, I'd skip Sunday (little changed), and then levels 5-9 at night. Thus, everything but the first was an incremental, saving time (and tape), but it mean reading up to a max 10 tapes to do a restore.

Nowadays, with autoloaders and such and smarter restores, its less of an issue going through a number of tapes. Legato Networker uses dump levels, but also has a separate "incremental" setting (which uses my "classic" definition), and I've used both Monthly fulls and Weekly fulls with incrementals the rest of the way without problem.



Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
A dump of any dump-level will backup all files that have changed since the
most recent dump of a lower dump-level.  This is basically an unnecessarily
large level of abstraction, the guys who originally wrote it were thinking
*way* broader than necessary.

There's a nice simple analogy, if you're familiar with Full / Incremental /
Differential backups.

* Think of a Full Backup like level 0.  It gets everything no matter what.
* Think of a Incremental like level 5.  It gets everything that changed
since the last full, and creates an intermediate stage, so your
differentials/level 9's don't have to copy that stuff again.
* Think of a Differential like level 9.  It gets everything since the most
recent 0 or 5.

Depending on how much data you're talking about, you might do something like
this:
Run a daily script, which does this:
If today's the 1st of the month, Do a level 0.
        Else:
If today's Sunday, Do a level 5
                Else:
                        Do a level 9

That would get you your Monthly fulls, Weekly incrementals, and daily
differentials.

As mentioned by John, most people don't have a large enough quantity of data
to mess around with Incremental/level 5.  Most people will do something like
weekly level0, and daily level9.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Ehrlich
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:33 AM
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Subject: [BBLISA] Definition of dump levels?

I've seen so many references to dump levels, but none of them,
including the
man page, actually says what, specifically, each level covers.

For example, a level 0 would presumably back up everything.  But will
it still
do so if I perform a level 0 today, update /etc/dumpdates, then perform
another
level 0 just after, and no files have changed?

What about the other levels?  What do they do?

Thanks.

Scott

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