Michael Buesch skrev: > On Monday 12 May 2008 18:06:51 Richard Jonsson wrote: >> A) Start a mailing list bcm43xx-users with a nicer and more forgiving >> tone that doesn't scare away bug reporters and testers. > > Creating a new mainlinglist won't help anyone. > It will just split up developers and users to seperate lists. > That's the opposite of what you want. > Agreed
>> B) If it's not already done, on linux-wireless / b43 site: Tell how to >> report bugs, with directions on what info is relevant. > > Feel free to write a bug-report HOWTO. > I'm not sure I am the right person for this task, as I can't file a proper report myself :) Something like this? In q&a section: Q: I found a bug in the driver, now what? A: See <link to topic "Bug reporting"> ------------------- topic "Bug reporting": Bug reporting You should send a message to the b43/b43legacy mailinglist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing ALL of the following: A description of the problem at hand: * When does it happen. * How to reproduce * If performance is poor; What environment is your wlan in, walls, distance etc. uname -a lspci -vvn|grep 43 -A7 dmesg wlan configuration, authentication/encryption type In addition this may be of interest to the developers: If you have built the kernel from git: Tell which tree, and the output of "git describe" If the bug is a regression, ie the driver worked with earlier kernels, but stopped working, a bisection is of great value. (I probably missed a few relevant points) >> C) Set up a bug report form on linux-wireless/b43 site that force needed >> info to be included. > > Cool. Please implement that. > Was afraid of that answer, don't have the resources atm, maybe later, no promises. Also I don't know what drives that site. And maintenance != me >> Testers is one of the most needed resource in software development, why >> throw it all away with hostility. I've seen a lot of that on this list, >> which in comparison to lkml is a nightmare > > No wait. LKML is the actual nightmare. It's one of the best examples > for the worst mailinglist ever. ;) > On LKML I find no question is to stupid to be answered in a polite manner. OTOH it's a nightmare traffic wise. >> To be fair I know exactly how frustrating it is to get incomplete >> reports over and over again. Maybe I'm naive to think it can be worked >> around and minimized. > > Yeah well. People should read the list archives or use google before > asking questions. The traffic could be reduced by 50%. > The signal/noise ratio is very bad on this list. > Maybe I'm the only person in the world finding it more or less impossible to find anything in mailing list archives, unless you find it through a search engine. Besides most messages on a ML get obsolete very quickly. _______________________________________________ Bcm43xx-dev mailing list Bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/bcm43xx-dev
