Dear Mr. Lloyd, 

    Our experience is that when you get the Calcium to Magnesium ratio 
close to its "primordial design" values, then the elementary forces 
start to bring it home.  Accuracy and precision then only become a means 
to bring it home faster where monetary concerns are important. 

    Right now in one situation, we have 5 growers, 1 acre each, in a 5 
acre plot.  We have done the same to each acre, and yet each acre is 
different.  Why?  In the first acre, the grower did not apply his 
material for planting appropriately.  Then, when his plants didn't 
respond quite as well as the others, he applied his "comfort zone" 
chemicals, which actually hurt the natural system.  After that, one of 
the other acres is doing "wonderfully well", and the other three acres 
are doing "all right".  The growers want to know why the difference. 

    Now, I don't know if anyone reading this e-mail has read The Secret 
Life of Plants, but plants and soil and nature respond to our mental and 
spiritual states.  This has been documented.  We mentioned this to our 
growers.  Interesting, these growers are Mexican and they have a 
tradition of understanding these things.  They picked up quite readily, 
as they do when we have them apply their materials by the cycles of the 
Moon. 

    Impressive observation, Mr. Charles - the trace minerals "are" the 
main cost.  I don't know if Cecilia Harmon from our office mentioned it, 
but our lab does 10 different extractions to get all of the traces. 

    Anyway, thank you for your e-mail.  We also thank you for this 
website and all the wonderful people that it seems to attract. 

Timothy Hollingsworth 

Lloyd Charles wrote: 

  >>If you test your soil through a reputable lab, make sure they give 
  you the 
  Calcium and 
  > >Magnesium base saturation levels.  Calcium should be about 68% and 
  > >Magnesium should be about 13.5%. 
  > 
  > That example is 5 to 1. My recollection is Albrecht said 7 to 1 is 
  the 
  > ideal. 9 to 1 is high. 
  > Dave Robison 

  Dave your correct with your math but again this depends on who does 
  the 
  testing My experience is that if you get to  68/12 (with everything 
  ELSE in 
  correct proportion) for our soils on a perry USA test your are home! - 
  that 
  same soil sample is probably going to show 75 /10 from a Brookside 
  analysis. 
  This is not saying one is right and the other wrong just that we need 
  to be 
  aware of differences and alter the numbers where necessary. Also means 
  that 
  changing labs partway along is not going to help much 
  Regards the original Green Gold message - any old lab over here will 
  get you 
  workable base saturation numbers -I have yet to see a paid for soil 
  test 
  that has not got this info on it- what costs us the money is a proper 
  trace 
  element analysis 
  All the best 
  L Charles
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