Dear Hugh and List,

Thanks for explaining many things.
I went to Michigan State and there they
tought me that Mg is a divalent cation.
I am not familiar to the University you have
mentioned. I simply don�t know it. It can be a good
one but I simply never heard of it before.

There is little I can comment about Biodynamics since I am a
freshmen in the field but I consider myself  a Dr Steiner fan and student.
I would use a Field Broadcaster and in fact I have sent you an e mail
about that and never got a reply but that is another story.Incidently
I am reading "Stone Age Agriculture" and there is a nice drawing of
your Field Broadcaster there which made feel even more compelled to use one.
So please do not let me in the dark. Throw some light down here whenever
you can.

The Biodynamic movement in Brazil is a very weak one. After 27+ years
they have accomplished nearly nothing. Now there are other groups being
formed and there are  few good BD growers who are really doing a good job
but that
is in Southern Brazil not close to where I live. I wish them all the luck in
this world as
we really need something like BD agriculture. The BD growers that I visited
in
Brazil were talking about transmutation but I have measured their soils
with a penetrometer and I found a compacted layer in all of them. That is
certainly
not what I call a live soil. If there is compaction there is anaerobiosis.
If there is
lack of oxygen there is no life. I have two books from Prof Kervran and I do
think
that transmutation do happens but this is something that you can�t account
for in your
daily life. I mean in terms that you would consider part of the problem
being solved
simply because there is transmutation and therefore I don�t need to apply
Calcium to my soil.
Calcium helps the soil microbiology probably more than any other element.
>From the smallest bacteria to animals and even man, everyone is dependent of
a
good supply of calcium in the soil.In Dr Albrecht own words " Calcium is
what makes
the other elements  get into the plant more efficiently" . Actually he would
tell a laymen
audience that " every element rides in the back of calcium into the plant".
By the way, there is plenty of scientific research proving this statement.
Potassium,
Phosphate, etc... all get into the plant more efficiently at high calcium
levels.
The main point that made me really upset about Mr Goldstein article is that
he have based it
in a very old papers from the 80�s in which they were trying to disprove
Albrecht theory.
In that paper that is being cited all over the world " ad nauseam" to
disprove
Albrecht theory they have used several Ca:Mg ratios and have concluded that
there was no difference in the production. Every paper that is done with a
hidden
purpose is not a trustable one to start with.
Secondly , you can play as much as you want you Ca/Mg ratios but if you get
to some high ratios in which you would be influencing pH then all
microelements
will have to be taken care otherwise the less availabilty of micro nutrients
at a higher pH
will off set the benefit of the suposedly "good" Ca/Mg ratio. I suspect that
this is what really
happened. Mr Goldstein apparently does not have a good soil chemistry
otherwise
he would know all that.
If you are to play with Ca/Mg ratios you should account for a decreased
availability
of micro elements at higher pH. How are you going to do that I simply don�t
know
but one should devise a way to take that effect into consideration.

I know that Mr Goldstein have written about the economics of the CEC
balancing
and I cannot comment on that. Any grower has to do his own math. For some
crops it may pay but for others it may not. I do not enjoy seeing people
being ripped off
as well.

You are so right about a live soil being less and less dependent on CEC
balancing.
In fact I have seen some soils in which the grower did nothing but to add
cattle manure.
Guess what , in those soils you would notice a almost perfect balance
exactly
like Albrecht would like to see.
The rationale behind this is that since humic material is originated from
organic matter and
in the organic matter the relationship would be exactly like the one
recommended by
Albrecht the higher the organic matter ( and consequently the humus) the
closer to
Albrecht levels the soil will get.

Unfortunately I cannot agree with the gentleman that have recommended the
farmers to
apply whichever lime was available or go for the cheapest one. I have done
that
exactly for 20 years at not avail. Cheap Limes are the ones which normally
have a
low reactivity. This lime may take as much as 5 years to released the
calcium and by the time it
is released ( if you don�t have a live soil ) all that calcium would have
been leached away
perpetuating the situation on and on. If there is a need for calcium then a
highly reactive
type should be used. I don�t like the High Calcium limes that are
manufactured by man.
I prefer the high calcium manufactured by nature in ancient oyster shells
deposits that would
have a reactivity similar to any good High Calcium lime.This is the one I
use. I have already
compared High Calcium lime ( which is basically ordinary Lime subjected to
High temperatures
in which Calcium carbonate would loose a CO2 and would remain as CaO which
is more reactive
than CaCO3) to Oyster shell finelly ground and the results was favourable to
oyster shell.
Same thing to bone meal. I believe that organic materials material like are
more tunned to
the plant than a mineral material like a crushed rock ( lime).
Chemically speaking it does not make sense and I believe that you could not
talk about
tunning of a material to Albrecht or any of his close followers like Neal
Kinsey but I
do believe in tunning and I do take it into consideration when designing any
fertilization
programm.


Jose

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