Dear Dr. Elain Ingham,

As you know the last few years have witnessed  improvements in  compost
tea  brewer technology at warp speed,  yet minimum  knowledge   has been
transferred to the end users.



The Compost Tea Brewing Manual is meant to get that knowledge out. 
 Plus the E-zine I do each month, where I answer questions about 
soil, compost, compost tea.
But,  you are right, we need more education happening.  

The issues that I am raising are for

>those of us that 1) do not have the extra financial resources to
>experiment with what commercial compost tea brewers are offering in the
>marketplace and 2) are typical farmer personalities that prefer to make
>their own at volkswagon prices.
>


There is a new machine coming out, less than $100, 5 gallons, uses 
about a half pound of compost per batch, easy to clean, cool little 
machine.  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Ask for Leon Hussy!


What I would like to know more about and  create more awareness about

>is related to  tea brewer operations and  designs, for example:
>- What is the appropriate basket screen sizing and what are good sources
>of this material?
>


The thing to think about here is that the largest critter you want 
extracted from the compost is about 150 micrometers wide, 1 mm long. 
The opening sizes must be big enough to let them through. So, a 
material with openings between 250 micrometers and 500 micrometers.  

Spray nozzles also factor in here too.  Drip tape has small opening 
-- about 25 micrometers, so when you use drip tape, you will not get 
the bigger critters through.  

>- Regarding vortex nozzles, which is correct, placing the vortex
>nozzle in the compost basket or in the leachate?
>


If you are using a vortex nozzle, you aren't doing a leachate.  This 
is a tea.  You can put a nozzle to spray into the compost, which 
helps with extraction, but you need other nozzles to spray so a 
vortex is produced.  The Microbrewer is the only machine that sets up 
a real vortex.  All of the machines get a mixing movement of some 
kind, but not a true vortex, even if they claim to be doing that.  

What are good sources

>of vortex nozzles and what material should they be made of? 
>


You need to speak to Karl Rubenberger, ARDEO Inc, and the web site is 
ARDEO.com     Alternatively, try the Microb-brewer web site, but even 
I don't have much luck getting a response from that site.

The Soil Soup people claim to set up a vortex in their larger 
machines, but they have never tested their larger machines that I am 
aware.  At least, I have never seen any data from them on this.  We 
have had people send in samples and SFI has done their teas.  I have 
never seen a tea with organism numbers that I would be happy with 
from a Soil Soup machine.  

THE EPM machines use a nozzle too, and set up a vortex of sorts. 
 Nothing like the Microb-Brewer vortex though.  And none of the 
machines do the chaos thing.  I think the Microb-Brewer folks are 
working on this, however.  So stay tuned to new developments!  


What is

>the function of the vortex nozzle, to separate the microbes from the
>compost material or to aerate the tea?
>


BOTH.  The movement of the water through the compost pulls the 
organisms from the surfaces of the organic matter into the tea, AND 
aerates.  Two jobs for the price of one!  In the other machines that 
use air pumps to extract, the "vortex" is just produced by air 
bubbles churning the water.  Not real vortex action.  Just churning 
actions.  

>- Is true that petroleum based plastic is better than stainless
>steel for the conical containers?
>


They are about the same.  Price is the factor -- the plastic is less 
expensive.  

>- What is the best type of motor, pump or diaphragm?
>


Doesn't make a lot of difference from the critter's point of view. 
 Smashing into 90 degree corners, now that's a problem from a tea 
organism point of view.  Roters, now those crush organisms.  So 
diaphragm is probably better, except than the energy field set up is 
going to fry some bacteria.  So, six of one, half dozen another.  We 
need to get down to the species selected by different pumps, and 
right now we don't have a good way to do that!

>- How full should the container tank be to achieve the vortex made by
>the conical shape of the tank and the recircling leachate?
>


Full enough that the water being sprayed back into the tank sets up 
the vortex.  
Half full or more should work.  But again, only the Microb-Brewer. 
 That's the only one that would do this.

>If commercial and homemade compost tea brewers can live up to their
>expectations to produce high populations of beneficial microorganisms
>that colonize plant leaf surfaces, then the information flow between the
>farmers/gardeners experimenting with compost tea brewers and the
>agricultural researchers should be continuous and updated.  I assume
>that this is a goal of yours.
>

That's what the e-zine is for.  Please go to my website and sign up 
if you want the monthly updates of what is going on at SFI.  I'm 
always amazed that I have something to write about every month, but 
it's not a problem, not yet.....


Hope this helps!

Elaine

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