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> > Allan,
> > Could you direct me to a list dealing with Biodynamics and Organics?
> >
> > As I intend to sub off this list shortly.
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> > Gil
> >
> > jsherry wrote:
> >
> > > April 20 Anti-war Protests Overwhelm Expectations
> > > Don Hazen, AlterNet
> > > April 22, 2002
> > >
> > > Huge anti-war demonstrations on Saturday in Washington, San Francisco,
> > > Seattle, Boston, Salt Lake City and Houston turned out considerably
more
> > > people than organizers and police authorities expected. District of
> Columbia
> > > Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey estimated that 75,000 marched in
> Washington,
> > > while estimates in San Francisco varied between 30,000 and 50,000.
> > >
> > > The size, energy and peacefulness of the marches was a big boost to
> > > progressive forces across the country who have been very much on the
> > > defensive in the post-9/11 period. "Saturday was inspiring evidence
that
> > > there is enormous grassroots opposition to the Bush agenda of endless
> war at
> > > home and abroad," said Terra Lawson-Remer, one of the D.C. organizers.
> > >
> > > The gatherings, by far the biggest in the U.S. since the Sept. 11
> attacks,
> > > focused on an array of progressive grievances -- the undermining of
> civil
> > > liberties, questions about U.S. foreign policy in Afghanistan and
> Colombia,
> > > as well as the effects of corporate globalization around the world.
> > >
> > > But the protesters' most powerful message was their anger about
Israel's
> > > repression in the West bank. Chants of "Stop the occupation now" and
"We
> are
> > > all Palestinians today" emanated from the marchers, and the black,
red,
> > > white and green flag of Palestine dominated the visual landscape.
> > >
> > > Saturday's demonstrations in Washington were in contrast to the
> memorable
> > > April 2000 actions in Washington, when protests against the World Bank
> and
> > > International Monetary Fund led to a virtual shutdown of the downtown
> area.
> > > At that time there were pitched clashes between police and
> demonstrators,
> > > and many hundreds were arrested. In this weekend's protests, separate
> events
> > > with differing goals were held on Saturday morning, but in the
> afternoon,
> > > everyone -- despite some differences in strategy and tactics -- came
> > > together to create a huge and peaceful crowd. According to the
> Washington
> > > Post, Chief Ramsey praised the decorum of Saturday's demonstrations.
> > >
> > > "The organizers did an outstanding job," said Ramsey, baton in hand as
> he
> > > watched thousands file past the Justice Department building. "This is
> really
> > > what protests ought to be."
> > >
> > > The San Francisco four-hour protest caused widespread gridlock. "It's
> one of
> > > the biggest protests in the past five years," San Francisco Police
> Commander
> > > Greg Suhr told Jim Herron Zamora of the San Francisco Chronicle. "It's
> not
> > > often that you see one where a crowd has formed in the Civic Center
but
> > > there are still people in Dolores Park who haven't started marching."
> > >
> > > The San Francisco demonstration was billed as a march against "the
real
> axis
> > > of evil: war, racism, poverty." But clearly, support for the
Palestinian
> > > cause transcended the other issues. The march included many Americans
of
> > > Palestinian descent, as well as immigrants from other Arab countries
who
> > > became politically active after the Sept. 11 attacks. One protester,
> Riad
> > > Morrar, immigrated from Egypt 27 years ago, and now owns a technology
> > > company in the Sacramento area. "There is nothing else I can do but
tell
> > > President Bush: 'You are wrong. Stop killing my people,'" Morrar told
> the
> > > San Francisco Chronicle, as he marched with his wife and four
children.
> > >
> > > "I spent 20 years avoiding the news, avoiding conflict. It is too
> > > depressing," said Kais Menoufy, another Egyptian immigrant at the
march.
> "I
> > > love America. But I'm embarrassed and angry that my country is
> supporting
> > > genocide."
> > >
> > > According to Herron Zamora, the oldest marcher in San Francisco was
> probably
> > > Dave Smith, an 89-year-old member of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, an
> > > American group opposing nationalists in the Spanish Civil War from
> 1936-39.
> > > "I am proud to fight fascism and oppression, whether it's in Spain,
Nazi
> > > Germany or Israel," said Smith.
> > >
> > > The youngest demonstrator might have been Hanif Amanullah, a
> four-month-old
> > > from Oakland who slept in his father's arms. "I'm marching for this
> little
> > > guy," said Shahed Amanullah. "I want him to grow up in a world without
> this
> > > kind of violence."
> > >
> > > Not everyone agreed with how the rallies turned out. Robert Elan, an
> > > inner-city school teacher in San Francisco, felt that Saturday's
actions
> > > were supposed to be about war, racism and poverty. "Instead of
focusing
> on
> > > U.S. corporate corruption, the attack on civil liberties ... and
> celebrating
> > > the environmental victories just before Earth Day, the multi-issue
> > > demonstration was dominated by solidarity with the Palestinian
people,"
> he
> > > explained. "Palestinian Independence took the front seat and relegated
> many
> > > other important issues to the back seat. By doing so, the rally
> > > de-emphasized domestic issues and the problems associated with
> > > globalization. I believe this was a missed opportunity. Some people
are
> > > calling this a huge success for it's large numbers. I think it was
> rather a
> > > failure for its impact."
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, as John Nichols wrote for TheNation.com, "the size of
the
> > > protests is notable because they come at a time when most political
> leaders
> > > and media commentators remain cautious about criticizing U.S.
policies.
> > > Organizers across the country argued that the turnout was evidence
that
> > > there is far more opposition to U.S. policy among the American people
> than
> > > the relative silence of official Washington would indicate."
> > >
> > > The success of the organizing and the peaceful nature of the protests
> will
> > > no doubt open up some political space for larger numbers of people to
> more
> > > aggressively pursue a range of issues -- and perhaps give some elected
> > > officials a little more spine. Furthermore, the presence of large
> numbers of
> > > Arab Americans and immigrants represents a breakthrough in the
American
> > > protest movement.
> > >
> > > "Clearly the significance of Saturday was that Americans do not
support
> the
> > > way Bush is handling the war on terrorism, either domestically or
> > > internationally," said Terra Lawson-Remer. "People came out to say
that
> > > supporting freedom and democracy and opposing terrorism does not mean
> > > expanding war and cracking down on civil liberties."
> > >
> > > Behind the scenes, organizers were congratulating themselves. The fact
> that
> > > 75,000 people came out in the streets of D.C. without the backing of
> > > organized labor suggests that the left has expanded its base. And
> perhaps
> > > for the first time, a clear message of common ground was established
> between
> > > the anti-war and anti-corporate globalization campaigns -- that they
are
> > > both about promoting justice by challenging the U.S. might, whether
> military
> > > or economic, that reinforces U.S. dominance at the expense of many
> countries
> > > around the world.
> > >
> > > Don Hazen is the executive editor of AlterNet.org.
> > > ...............................................
> > >
> > > Be the change
> > > you want to see in the world.
> > > -- Mahatma Gandhi
> >
>

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