Really we are talking about three different things:
1. BD preps, that are applied for their spiritual purposes.
2. Compost teas that are applied for their "bug" content.
3. Common old liquid fertiliser that is applied for it's nutrient content.
It would seem to me that even failed compost tea would have a beneficial
effect given all the nutrients involved in it's manufacture.
Now that James has thrown in anaerobic teas, perhaps we all need to think
about what we are using or talking about  using and the outcomes required .
All of these things are tools for us to use, either singlely or in
combination, the danger in the discussion is confusing which is which, and
then becoming dogmatic.
My two Bobs worth
David C

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: vortex pump


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Hedley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: vortex pump
>
> Dear James
>                      Thanks for an excellent post. I guess we needed a
dose
> of common sense (homeopathically diluted of course). And I have to admit
> after re-reading this stuff I have probably added to the confusion!
> Apologies for that!
>                       I have preferred to leave the term "compost tea "
for
> the specialists who can afford to buy an expensive brewing machine
complete
> with diaphragm pump and do things by the book - I call my stuff "Brew" -
> that will cover just about anything. It happens that I have a stainless
milk
> vat that I use for other things as well so I make my brew in that.  drums
> are fine too they work well. It seems that the 100% aerobic high speed tea
> is the most difficult to make and requires the expensive gear. I am also
> still unconvinced on the benefits of diaphragm pumps over rotary ones in
the
> southern hemisphere - I'm sure there is an energetic issue involved but no

> body came in on that last time - the main point of all this is learn to
use
> what we already have around us
>                      You have called attention to other things too
>                        Energy in old teas - I have had good field results
> with old brew up to several weeks after making it - on a SFI test this
would
> have had to be almost clinically dead yet gave a good nutritional response
> (brix increase)
>     Cheers again
> Lloyd Charles
>
> > Dear Lloyd and fellow list members,
> > I have been following the discussion on the pro's and cons of compost
tea
> > manufacturing what sort of pump to use to circulate the water, or
whether
> > air is better than recirculation.............snip..........
> > The complexity which is being brought into this discussion would deter
> most
> > people from even attempting to make compost teas.
> .............snip...............
> > We become  beguiled by the intricacies of our technology that we dream
up
> more
> > complex  ways of doing a simple job. A bank of 44 gallon drums full of
> compost teas
> > brewing and stirred for 5 minutes once a day can keep you so busy
> harvesting
> > produce and spraying out your compost
teas.............snip...............
>
> > in the quest to build up the microbial activity in the soil just get out
> there and
> > use them and then we can get into a real discussion on the teas based on
> > their use, not on their manufacture
> > Kind best wishes
> > James
>
>
>
>
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