Go Lloyd!!!!!!!! The practicality of us going over a different system say
that this just won't happen in the foreseeable future. For a start the whole
system here is built around export, will you buy some obscure product
instead of wheat?
On another point, it was a waste of time G. W. Bush having a colonoscopy on
the weekend, they should have just asked our Prime Minister John Howard what
he saw while he was up there a few weeks ago.
David C

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Should Australia go native?


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Nelson-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 1:19 AM
> Subject: Should Australia go native?
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>
> .  He thinks it's time to stop pretending that Australia has a European
> environment;  the introduced garden  plants which made early settlers feel
> at home should be replaced with native species (amongst which he claims
> there are many equally attractive) and
>  agriculture should stop producing such inappropriate crops as wheat and
> sheepmeat.  He claims that, at current levels of consumption, a population
> of only 7-8 million could be supported sustainably (as opposed to the
> current 19 million, let alone the 50 million called for by business by
> 2050).  It sounds persuasive, but I've not heard any arguments against.
>
> Hi Tony
> Just so you wont be dissappointed I'll do it .
>     I dont know flannery or his history but there are plenty of his ilk
> around and most of em have a couple of things in common
> # usually never been involved in any form of agriculture for profit
> # most make their living interfering in the livelihoods of other people in
> some field that almost never directly impacts on themselves
> # its normal that the most vocal of them are in secure taxpayer funded
> work - public "service" or the education system
> You should by now be able to decide that I am extremely biased
> Now for the garden plants - some readers will already know that Australian
> native plants - specially eucalypts - are some of the most inflammable
> vegetation on earth - a eucalypt forest fire in full flight makes what is
> happening in the western US at the moment look like a backyard Bar-B-Que -
> (I apologise to those affected by these fires but its essentially the
truth)
> so at the urging of the flannery brigade we went ahead and planted half
> suburbia down to Aussie natives then people wonder why we have problems
with
> bushfires. Northern hemisphere ornamental plants make much more sense for
> most suburban plantings - most of our urban population lives in places
with
> adequate rainfall to grow them - they are in the main fire resistant in
> summer - and  the tree species are a whole lot more attractive in most
> cases.
> Our wheat and sheep farming system is equally as appropriate to our
> landscape as most other extensive farming is anywhere on the planet - the
> wheat sheep zone of central - southern New South Wales and Victoria is in
> better shape ecologically than at any time since 1900 - doubters need only
> go look at photographs of the countryside 1900 to 1945 and their mouths
will
> shut very quickly
> Tony my ancestors were squeezed (or starved ) out of the western bit of
> England (Wales) about 1850 - if this character and his mates had their
way -
> you better move over and make some room cause we will have to come back
> home. You can bet your life that when the population of this country is
> reduced to its 8 million carrying capacity Mr flannery will not be among
the
> first volunteers to find alternative accommodation.
> These people have a desperate lack of common sense!  of course agriculture
> is an artificial and un natural system, as is all organised human society.
> Why dont these people wake up and do something constructive.
>
>

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