When I was farming at the Kimberton Hills BD farm we had rat-tailed larvae
in our liquid manure tank, they seemed quite happy in there !
Here in Scotland we have two 5000 gal. underground tanks to collect the
dairy washings. I add lots of BC, it's a great way of getting all the preps
over all the fields, when I spray it out with the tanker.  It is too dark to
see who is living down there !       Gideon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vere Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BDnow Discussion list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Fly larvae in European farm liquid manure slurry: identification


> I recall when visiting a European organic (not sure if it was biodynamic
> --- would a biodynamic farm have a slurry pit?) farm in 1984 I saw these
> astonishingly large larvae (I believe they were fly maggots) exiting a
> large, partially below-ground, slurry pit.  After growing by consuming the
> slurry, they were leaving and moving away from the liquid manure, I assume
> to pupate in the soil.  No one on the farm gave them a second glance.  I
> assume therefore that they were beneficial or at least not pestiferous.
> This was in either Germany or Switzerland.  Would anyone know their
> approximate identity? To what family of diptera they might have belonged?
>
> Since nettle water and other fermenting plant extracts smells remarkably
> like liquid hog manure (a point not often emphasized, let alone mentioned,
> in popular biodynamic literature!) I assume certain flies would be
> attracted to lay eggs in the concoction.  I keep my nettle water loosely
> covered during fermentation.  I've had no flies developing in it.  The
> odour is not all that bad.  I live in an urban residential area on a
> 25-foot wide lot.  My neighbours don't complain about, or perhaps even
> notice, the odours of which I'm acutely aware.
>
> There is quite a lot of work being done currently on using the (tropical
> and subtropical) black soldier fly larvae (Hermetia illucens (L.)) to help
> reduce organic waste.  See: http://www.ads.uga.edu/annrpt/1995/95_311.htm.
> I don't think this was the species I saw.
>
> Vere.
>

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