James,
one of the discussions I had with Hugh Lovel, when he was out here was that
deep rooting tap root type weeds were a sign not only of compaction, but
also plants searching for silica. If there wasnt enough up in the atmosphere
above the earth, then they would have to go below to search out the minerals
in the subsoil.
He felt regular applications of 501, plus the rest of the BD sequence, 500,
Horn Clay and Barrel compost  would soon solve the problem.  Of course this
is what you are doing - so thistles are no longer needed.
Was good to see you at the National BD Workshop, enjoyed our conversations
too.

Cheryl Kemp
Education and Workshop Coordinator
BDFGAA
Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322
Home: 02 6657 5306
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)


> Dear Virginia,
> I cannot tell you yet exactly how Silica works in controlling thistles.
When
> I do the list will be first to know.
> My suspicion is that the ability of Silica to unlock mineralisation has
> removed the need for the thistles. At present time I dont have any
thistles
> on the farm to experiment with, those that are there are only small
rosettes
> which are half dead. I suppose that one could test the mineralisation in
the
> plant before spraying with 501, and then at various periods afterwards but
I
> dont have the facilities to do this.
> Have a good day
> James
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Virginia Salares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:55 PM
> Subject: BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)
>
>
> > James,
> >
> > Please elaborate on how silica (BD 501)prevents thistles from growing.
> >
> > Virginia
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> >
> >
> > > Dear Hugh et al,
> > > Silica is the unsung hero of the BD preps. It was not until using BD
501
> > > that we observed the real potential of the BD method.  It even stops
> > > thistles from growing and what are left are being grazed out in the
> > drought
> > > by the local colony of kangaroos, they know good healthy food when
they
> > > taste it.
> > > You have maintained that 501 is an atmospheric prep. From my
> understanding
> > > you think that it develops the formative patterns in the atmosphere.
> That
> > > may very well be true but Silica has the unique ability of repairing
> > > functionally impaired cells by enabling them to throw off inimical
> > > substances.It also has in Clarke's Materia Medica [p. 1175];
> > > "constitutions which suffer from deficient nutrition due to
assimilating
> > > power". Even if they never used any other of the BD preps in
> conventional
> > > farming the use of Silica to dissolve the phosphorus which has become
> > bound
> > > up in silicates should be common practice on all farms. The money in
the
> > > Phosphorus bank if released will save many farms from financial
> ruin.This
> > > has been proved by the CSIRO at Mackay during research work into the
> > control
> > > of Orange Rust in sugar cane. A study of  Materia Medica is important
to
> > get
> > > the feel of what the realm of activity of substances as could be seen
> from
> > > study of Silica.. One of the roles of  501 is to allow the plant to
> > > assimilate nutrients from the soil.
> > > Have a great day.
> > > James
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> > >
> > >
> > > > James, et. al.,
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30
> > > > through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH
> > soils
> > > > have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an
> inspired
> > > > method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to
play
> a
> > > > role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils.
> > > >
> > > > I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or
> more
> > > > feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are
> > > > limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and
> > phosphate
> > > > filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall
> > > > climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the
> > > > greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words,
> ".
> > .
> > > .
> > > > if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences
> > upward
> > > > during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with
> some
> > > > clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later."
> > > >
> > > > As many of us know, Steiner did not later indicate this dosage, nor
> any
> > > > more than barely hint at how it might be prepared or administered.
> There
> > > is
> > > > a brief mention in Lecture Four, page 74 of using orthoclase or
> > feldspar,
> > > > which are parent materials for clay, to make the horn silica remedy,
> and
> > > (I
> > > > haven't found it now, it may have been in one of the discussions) he
> > also
> > > > mentioned capping off the open end of the horn with clay. Presumably
> had
> > > > Steiner lived longer this would have come out.
> > > >
> > > > Now, however, we are faced with progressive farmers experimenting
with
> > > horn
> > > > clay while stricter Steiner preservationists cry, "Steiner didn't
say
> > > > that." and "That's not BD!" Personally I don't care what we call it
as
> > > long
> > > > as we elucidate the scientific principles Steiner tried to open our
> eyes
> > > to.
> > > >
> > > > On one very well run Australian farm in New South Wales the farmer
was
> > > > showing me a stratum of sandy limestone an inch or two thick that
was
> > > > exposed in a gully and was a meter or a little less below the
surface
> of
> > > > the field. "That didn't used to be there when I was a kid." he said.
> > Well,
> > > > you may imagine NSW, with its occasional heavy rains, could leach
the
> > lime
> > > > out of the topsoil and carry it down that far before it hardened
into
> > > > stone. If this happened repeatedly just such a layer might form, and
> do
> > so
> > > > within one person's lifetime. If this can happen, who is to say it
> > cannot
> > > > be reversed, given the right application of dynamic patterns of
force?
> > It
> > > > is not unheard of for soils to lose a point in pH in a year through
> > > > leaching. So why not gain a point in a year from the opposite
> > application
> > > > of forces?
> > > >
> > > > Also keep in mind what Robin was saying about not withholding
> expertise
> > > for
> > > > personal gain. As some know and others are realizing, we can apply
> > dynamic
> > > > patterns over large acreages with radionic instruments and field
> > > > broadcasters, to say nothing of Glen Atkinson's method of using low
> > > potency
> > > > homeopathic combos in high volume spraying. Such progressive methods
> are
> > > > relatively cheap and easy and the more we do them and succeed the
more
> > we
> > > > learn about how best to do. If all applications of Steiner's
remedies
> > are
> > > > limited to stirring and spraying we will have quite a struggle
trying
> to
> > > > stay afloat on tiny islands of healthy agriculture in a civilization
> > that
> > > > is going down the tubes all around us.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Hugh Lovel
> > > >
> > > > Hugh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Dear Daniel,
> > > > >Some time ago I wrote of how one of our members had increased the
pH
> of
> > > his
> > > > >soil by using quartz crystals in his flow forms used for stirring
the
> > > preps.
> > > > >He was able to increase pH from 5.5 to 6.5 in one year.
> > > > >The secret apparently was that the preps were stirred [running
> through
> > > the
> > > > >quartz] intermittently for a month before spraying out. this is one
> > way.
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >James
> > > > >Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis
> > > > >Radionic Insect and Parasite control
> > > > >Bioethical Agriculture Consultant
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Daniel Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:00 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Are there other ways to make acidic soil more neutral?  Is that
> > > something
> > > > >> even to worr about?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Daniel
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:50 AM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Lime and Humus
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > In a message dated 8/6/02 2:36:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > << How does lime do this?  Why would destroying the
> humus-building
> > > > >complex
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > a
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > problem in forest soils but not agricultural soils?  Any ideas?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >  >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > You must be judicious with lime.  Lime applied to corpses
causes
> > more
> > > > >> rapid
> > > > >> > decomposition.  Likewise it causes quick release of organic
> matter
> > > > >stored
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > the humus structure of the soil.  "SStorchLime makes the father
> > rich
> > > and
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > son poor".  That is an old saying that rings true...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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